Post by: Stein on August 25, 2022, 08:53:27 AM
Research points to shoulder or bow arm problems, but they seem to be missing right for right handers and I'm the opposite.
Any advice on what is breaking down in this situation? I was focusing on my grip every shot, so I'm fairly confident I can cross that off the list.
Post by: vandeman17 on August 25, 2022, 08:57:18 AM
Post by: KFhunter on August 25, 2022, 09:19:36 AM
Post by: Rutnbuxnbulls on August 25, 2022, 11:28:56 AM
My focus is to try to make sure my first shot is going to be a lethal, ethical kill.
I haven't had a lot of second chances archery hunting.
Post by: SuperX on August 25, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 25, 2022, 12:35:10 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 25, 2022, 12:55:09 PM
How much better are you getting if you keep going after the first 40 shots?
Post by: Jpmiller on August 25, 2022, 01:08:13 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on August 25, 2022, 01:18:36 PM
Your a better man than I...if I shoot 6 good arrows I'm done...
Lots of fatigue issues set in at 40
Heck they probably set in at 20. At least for me.
Holding steady in follow through is the biggest issue...
Don't overlook eye fatigue as well. Lazy/ tired eyes make for lazy aiming..
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 25, 2022, 01:45:08 PM
There is a saying practice makes perfect. That statement isn’t very true.
Perfect practice makes perfect. Is a more accurate saying in my mind.
If your practicing and doing bad habits like rushing because of fatigue your going to be doing some bad habits that can carry over.
I shoot around 20/30 shots a night building up to season. When I switch to my broadheads I shoot around 6/12 a night. Everyone does things different but this works for me. That way I’m never tired or trying to force a shot to break rather then letting it pull through.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2022, 02:03:25 PM
Post by: salmosalar on August 25, 2022, 02:22:00 PM
I try to keep my shooting to a minimum, maybe 16-20 arrows per session.
My focus is to try to make sure my first shot is going to be a lethal, ethical kill.
I haven't had a lot of second chances archery hunting.
I have adopted this strategy. I try to shoot 3-9 arrows every time I leave or arrive at the house. The first one is the most important. I shoot before work, at lunch (I work close), after work and then after dinner. Less arrows at a time. Try to be perfect every time. Since I started doing this, I have improved a lot.
I had been having frustrating and long shooting sessions. I think it was due to being tired. I am not a super strong guy. I would rather practice the correct form less, than incorrect form more.
Post by: KFhunter on August 25, 2022, 02:39:09 PM
Did a 60 target 3d shoot, barely felt it.
Stack up 2 doz arrows and fling 4 at each dot
I think a heavy poundage for your ability leads to target panic, being strong for the bows poundage leads to better form and better releases
Shoot till your tired, shoot more, shoot heavy, just before season back it way down to 6 shot sessions, focusing on shooting from a stand, shoot up or downhill
Post by: KFhunter on August 25, 2022, 02:49:24 PM
Grab a 70lb bow and it woyld be cakewalk
Post by: Jake Dogfish on August 25, 2022, 03:25:26 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on August 25, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
I can’t imagine taking 40 shots. I only shoot a few at a time and move on to something else.
Me too 6-12 shots is about my average
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on August 26, 2022, 08:00:22 AM
Would also depend on the goal in your process whether or not you are shooting too many or not enough.
I agree with most that for hunting the ability to shoot 40 arrows in a row extremely accurately is not an applicable skill. But if through the shooting of those 40 in practice, you increase the chances of the ONE in a hunting scenario then its worth it.
Post by: dilleytech on August 26, 2022, 10:07:53 AM
Post by: Stein on August 28, 2022, 11:41:50 AM
The other days I try to shoot 15-25 arrows in my garage at 20 yards.
I figure if I can build the strength and endurance to be accurate on my 40th shot at the course I will have what I need for the first shot. I'm not trying to practice for 40 shots at an animal, just practicing good reps to build my skill as well as strength required for holding long draws as well as practice shooting fatigued, high heart rate, etc. I don't think I can get that by just doing short garage sessions.
Anyway, my endurance and bow strength are building, I felt much less fatigued this week than the first week I could barely get through. Just wondering what was breaking down resulting in the poi shift so I could focus on improving that in the later part of the course.
Post by: boneaddict on August 28, 2022, 12:25:48 PM
Post by: SuperX on August 28, 2022, 12:36:47 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on August 28, 2022, 01:22:15 PM
Once a week I shoot the course at Silver Arrow. I usually shoot 2 arrows per target, sometime only one and shoot 25 or so targets. I carry a ruck with 30# of iron plus water and junk, so about 40-42 pounds total. I take plenty of time with each shot and try to make each as perfect as possible, but hustle between targets to get a good leg and lung workout at the same time.
The other days I try to shoot 15-25 arrows in my garage at 20 yards.
I figure if I can build the strength and endurance to be accurate on my 40th shot at the course I will have what I need for the first shot. I'm not trying to practice for 40 shots at an animal, just practicing good reps to build my skill as well as strength required for holding long draws as well as practice shooting fatigued, high heart rate, etc. I don't think I can get that by just doing short garage sessions.
Anyway, my endurance and bow strength are building, I felt much less fatigued this week than the first week I could barely get through. Just wondering what was breaking down resulting in the poi shift so I could focus on improving that in the later part of the course.
Follow through issue maybe? Peaking to see where your arrow hit.
Post by: KNOPHISH on August 28, 2022, 03:17:04 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on September 10, 2022, 07:34:35 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 11, 2022, 05:09:49 AM
This getting old garbage ....
Post by: Jpmiller on September 14, 2022, 02:07:16 PM
I shot last night and irritated some "muscle" in my shoulder. Hurts like a mother! Only with certain movements. Hopefully when that big buck walks out, I can ignore the pain.
This getting old garbage ....
Well if you need a trigger nab to tag along with you....
Seriously thought, been there. In the back of your mind hoping you don't come across anything to shoot, wondering why you're even out there. Unwilling to go home still because it's hunting season and I'd something does come you'll do whata needed, but ...
Good luck, hope you're back at it at full strength soon.
Post by: 2MANY on September 14, 2022, 02:09:55 PM
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Post by: salmosalar on November 10, 2022, 09:06:46 AM
One key is to not shoot after you are tired IMO.
I have noticed that since I have only been shooting for the last 5 months or so, I am getting stronger. I am not a super strong guy and I have had impingements in both shoulder when I did physical repetitive work. So Where I would notice hat my groupings would change after 8 or 10 arrows when I stated, I can now shoot many more times prior to being tired.
The other improvement is changing grips. I have a Mathews outback and that old wood grip was awful and seemed to magnify any torque. When I am tired, I notice that he torque is what gets me.