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Title: Are these choke cherry.
Post by: hunter399 on September 06, 2022, 12:27:01 PM: Think me gots rose hips and choke cherry mixed up.
Some of these bears are moving on to these I think.
East side anyway as the hucks dry up.

Like title says
What are these?
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Post by: 7mmfan on September 06, 2022, 12:29:56 PM: They're definitely not rose hips.
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Post by: hunter399 on September 06, 2022, 12:36:18 PM: I always thought the rose hips was choke cherry.
Me thinking these are choke cherry.
One more pic of the berrys
A pic of the hot East side sun rising.
Notice the hucks are drying up fast.
North side slopes might still hold some.
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Post by: Angry Perch on September 06, 2022, 02:53:07 PM: Russian Olive?
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Post by: whtbck on September 06, 2022, 03:35:45 PM: chokecherry are usually in tighter bunches and a little darker.Looks like something is eating them.Where they near a creek or river?
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Post by: MeepDog on September 06, 2022, 03:47:52 PM: Quote from: Angry Perch on September 06, 2022, 02:53:07 PM
Russian Olive?
Not Russian olive. I'm not used to choke cherry trees being that big the bears kill them from bending them over. Choke cherries have a single large pit thats almost as big as a normal cherry pit despite the small fruit of the choke cherry.
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Post by: Ntbutcher on September 06, 2022, 07:52:57 PM: Yes they are choke cherries. If you eat them they have a very tart drying effect in your mouth and taste like a sour cherry
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 06, 2022, 07:58:30 PM: This is rose hips, usually not penetrable in large bushes, in a mature thickets.
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Post by: buckfvr on September 06, 2022, 08:05:16 PM: Ive got several choke cherry trees and a butt load of wild roses which the deer seem to find irresistible. Elk like them too.
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Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 06, 2022, 08:08:39 PM: Those are not choke cherries in the last pic. Choke cherries hang in clusters. They also have a different leaf. I have those kind of trees in my yard...sparse red berries throughout the tree. I'll see if I can post some choke cherry pics.
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Post by: DeerThug on September 06, 2022, 08:29:21 PM: That is not a choke cherry the fruit of a choke cherry is in clusters sort of like a bunch of grapes and each fruit is much smaller - but it is a cherry tree. All-be-it a wild or seedling cherry tree. Right bark leaves and fruit. Almost looks like a pie cherry strain.
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Post by: hunter399 on September 06, 2022, 08:31:30 PM: Quote from: whtbck on September 06, 2022, 03:35:45 PM
chokecherry are usually in tighter bunches and a little darker.Looks like something is eating them.Where they near a creek or river?
They was in like a 25 year old cut.
Which is like thick forest now
All trees with a 16 in diameter or bigger.
No not much water around pretty dry.
Last picture was a lot smaller plant ,but same thing I think.
Not really sure.
Just around them the grass was all smashed down like something was eating on them.
But no bear poop or nothing.
Could been moose or deer or anything .
But I start to take notice when I see the grass smashed up under them berry bushes.
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Post by: hunter399 on September 06, 2022, 08:34:29 PM: Quote from: MeepDog on September 06, 2022, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: Angry Perch on September 06, 2022, 02:53:07 PM
Russian Olive?
Not Russian olive. I'm not used to choke cherry trees being that big the bears kill them from bending them over. Choke cherries have a single large pit thats almost as big as a normal cherry pit despite the small fruit of the choke cherry.
I did smash one berry .
One single pit ,pretty big for a little berry.
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Post by: actionshooter on September 06, 2022, 08:48:52 PM: A lot of people get choke cherries mixed up with elderberries.. they aren't the same
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Post by: ghosthunter on September 06, 2022, 09:01:18 PM: https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/macro-of-a-cluster-of-wild-red-ripe-chokecherries-gm1291862244-386857760
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Post by: Ridgeratt on September 07, 2022, 06:28:17 PM: Use the camera function on your phone. Bring the photo up then do a google search. Seems to be pretty accurate. But maybe it's just easier to rely on others.
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Post by: fireweed on September 07, 2022, 08:52:22 PM: They look more like crab apples to me, but the leaf isn't quite right. Bark in one photo looks like cherry. Cut one in half across the middle. if it has a single pit, its a some sort of cherry or plum. if it is a star like a cut apple, then a crab apple. If it has neither (small seeds) it is something else entirely.
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Post by: Smokepole on September 07, 2022, 10:06:38 PM: They are in the prunus genus, but not choke cherries. Lots of domestic cherries and ornamental laurels get planted by birds, so you have a variety of prunus sports that come up. There is a native cherry called "bitter cherry" Prunus emarginata that might be a match, but hard to tell by the photos. Bears love them all.
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Post by: Angry Perch on September 08, 2022, 10:47:44 AM: Quote from: Smokepole on September 07, 2022, 10:06:38 PM
They are in the prunus genus, but not choke cherries. Lots of domestic cherries and ornamental laurels get planted by birds, so you have a variety of prunus sports that come up. There is a native cherry called "bitter cherry" Prunus emarginata that might be a match, but hard to tell by the photos. Bears love them all.

I have a phone app for plant ID. It said bitter cherry, although it's ben known to be incorrect at times.
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Post by: mountainman on September 08, 2022, 12:36:19 PM: Definetly chokecherries
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Post by: buckfvr on September 08, 2022, 02:54:53 PM: Quote from: mountainman on September 08, 2022, 12:36:19 PM
Definetly chokecherries

:yeah:

Theyre just played out some, past pull if you will. I have a couple trees with no fruit left.
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Post by: boneaddict on September 10, 2022, 06:45:39 AM: Hammered chokecherries
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Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 11, 2022, 02:49:24 PM: The ones in the first two pics are not choke cherries. I have trees in my yard with those type of berries and leaves/bark and I have choke cherries. I have taken a few pics of each. The berries in the trees in my yard that are shown in the first two pics are already gone. If you look at the branches in the posted pics and my pics you'll see the red colored bark on the branches and the leaves are not the same as the choke cherry.The robins have already eaten the red berries but I still have choke cherries...see all pics. First two pics are the red berrie tree like posted (minus the berries). The next sets of pics are choke cherry leaves and berries.
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Post by: buckcanyonlodge on September 11, 2022, 02:50:47 PM: Choke cherries
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Post by: Timberstalker on September 11, 2022, 03:32:23 PM: Have to agree with Buckcanyonlodge here.

Choke cherries are always in clusters and much smaller fruits.
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Post by: YellowShells on September 12, 2022, 01:44:35 PM: The pics in the original post look like Indian Plum to me. Narrower leaves than choke cherry, and the stems come from a spur, rather than spread out along a stem.
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Post by: hunter399 on September 12, 2022, 02:27:26 PM: I would head up there to look around ,but that nasty wild fire smoke is nasty out there.
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Post by: buckfvr on September 12, 2022, 03:30:43 PM: Ya know how huckle berry plants come in a variety of leaf shape and coloration ? https://www.britannica.com/plant/chokecherry
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Post by: hunter399 on September 12, 2022, 03:58:51 PM: Quote from: Ridgeratt on September 07, 2022, 06:28:17 PM

Use the camera function on your phone. Bring the photo up then do a google search. Seems to be pretty accurate. But maybe it's just easier to rely on others.
Took your advise.
Google foo says longstalk holly native to China.
But the next close thing looks like bitter cherry.
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Post by: Ridgeratt on September 13, 2022, 02:38:19 AM: So it will give you a few choices. I guess you just have to figure out where you and Waldo or Dora are to make a decision. 😎
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Post by: jasnt on September 13, 2022, 05:18:49 AM: Pretty sure that’s bitter cherry
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 13, 2022, 06:21:58 AM: This app works great.
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Post by: Angry Perch on September 13, 2022, 09:52:55 AM: Quote from: Boss .300 winmag on September 13, 2022, 06:21:58 AM
This app works great.

I've been really impressed with it.
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Post by: hal on September 20, 2022, 10:43:51 AM: Be careful. Choke cherry foliage in the wilted state is poisoness to most animals especially horses. The foliage produce cianide.
The fruit is fine. Had a friend whose neighbor cut down some choke cherry on the property line and both his horses died eating the leaves.
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Post by: hunter399 on September 20, 2022, 11:52:01 AM: I still need to get back in there again.
Bears are definitely hitting other feed sources right now.
As most hucks have dryed up around my neck of the wood.