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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Calvin Rayborn on October 04, 2022, 08:16:29 PM

Title: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on October 04, 2022, 08:16:29 PM: Maybe my eyes are failing me?
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: tritt007 on October 04, 2022, 08:53:59 PM: There is archery late season for siouxon no late muzzy for either .
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on October 05, 2022, 07:31:36 AM: Dang, that makes absolutely no sense to me...Why would modern get the late season advantage in those units over the other two primitive hunting methods?
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Matth on October 05, 2022, 09:02:09 AM: I’m not sure I would call muzzy all that primitive anymore.
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: HillHound on October 05, 2022, 10:00:19 AM: You wouldn’t, but they still do. They definitely aren’t as primitive as they once were but they still are compared to a scoped rifle. Muzzy guys have always got the shaft on seasons
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on October 05, 2022, 10:28:18 AM: Quote from: Matth on October 05, 2022, 09:02:09 AM
I’m not sure I would call muzzy all that primitive anymore.

I'd say WDFW has been pretty conservative regarding all the modern "accoutrements..." No optical sights, no Federal Firestick....Not that long ago that even 209's were a no-no.
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 05, 2022, 03:05:32 PM: There hasn't been late archery for 572 or 560 for a long time. If 572 has a late archery this year, that's an add-on. :dunno:
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on October 05, 2022, 04:34:47 PM: Any logic behind this? Makes no sense that modern firearm would take preference?
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 06, 2022, 07:46:38 AM: It makes no sense they've never had spring bear in those units, either. Loads of bear up there. But, I guess now none of the units have it. :bash:
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Bucks2Ducks on October 06, 2022, 08:39:12 AM: Quote from: HillHound on October 05, 2022, 10:00:19 AM
You wouldn’t, but they still do. They definitely aren’t as primitive as they once were but they still are compared to a scoped rifle. Muzzy guys have always got the shaft on seasons
A lot of the Muzzy seasons have the highest success rate, W side elk opened OCT 1st for them, literally prime rut. The shaft would be like some other states that don't even have primary Muzzy seasons.
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Stein on October 06, 2022, 09:39:12 AM: Quote from: Calvin Rayborn on October 05, 2022, 07:31:36 AM
Dang, that makes absolutely no sense to me...Why would modern get the late season advantage in those units over the other two primitive hunting methods?

Because there are 100 modern rifle hunters for every muzzleloader. Modern will always have the preference if push gets to shove simply because it's way more popular.
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: Chesapeake on October 06, 2022, 01:02:33 PM: As I recall WDFW try's to equalize the success rates for each of the weapons groups by manipulating season length and timing, ect... The numbers make it look like they do very well at it. About 10% success for elk hunters and 30% success for deer hunters across the state no matter the weapons choice year after year.

You wouldn't want muzzy elk folks having 30% success rates while rifle folks had 6% success rates would you?
Title: Re: WTF No muzzy or archery late season for BOTH Washougal AND Siouxon this year?!?
Post by: pickardjw on October 06, 2022, 01:28:14 PM: Quote from: Chesapeake on October 06, 2022, 01:02:33 PM
As I recall WDFW try's to equalize the success rates for each of the weapons groups by manipulating season length and timing, ect... The numbers make it look like they do very well at it. About 10% success for elk hunters and 30% success for deer hunters across the state no matter the weapons choice year after year.

You wouldn't want muzzy elk folks having 30% success rates while rifle folks had 6% success rates would you?

Success rate by weapon group shouldn't matter as long as harvest target numbers aren't exceeded. If there's 100 muzzy hunters in a unit and 1000 rifle hunters and the target harvest number is 100 elk, then those percentages are fine.