Post by: Iveexcaped3 on November 04, 2022, 05:34:41 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on November 04, 2022, 05:55:13 PM
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models as well
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on November 04, 2022, 06:18:46 PM
Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models as well
Neither company offers past 60 zoom, thanks though
Post by: huntnfmly on November 04, 2022, 06:39:29 PM
Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models as well
Neither company offers past 60 zoom, thanks though
Whoops my bad I was thinking 60mm objective I guess the word zoom in the title should have given me a clue lol 😂
Post by: Crunchy on November 04, 2022, 06:51:56 PM
Post by: pickardjw on November 04, 2022, 06:57:06 PM
Agree with Crunchy though. Are you trying to actively glass at 60x or just get a better look at something after spotting at a lower power?
Post by: cwuhunter on November 04, 2022, 07:05:02 PM
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on November 04, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Kowa has a 30x-70x eyepiece.
Agree with Crunchy though. Are you trying to actively glass at 60x or just get a better look at something after spotting at a lower power?
I’m constantly needing more. I’m spotting at 1300+ the 70 will help with the distance
Post by: jackelope on November 04, 2022, 07:18:22 PM
Post by: pickardjw on November 04, 2022, 07:25:05 PM
Send an email to Cody at gohunt if you want a professional opinion as well. He helped me with some optics questions, guy knows his stuff. Or Doug at CameralandNY
Post by: GWP on November 04, 2022, 07:35:00 PM
Every high powered optic I have looked through gets ‘iffy’ on details and brightness, the higher power you go to. Back it off some and it actually better on detail.
If possible, go try some. Store, someone that has one, and see what you think.
Trying a set of Swarovski binocs sure ruined me for Leupold Gold Rings. Leupold’s are pretty nice. Swarovski’s are WONDERFUL.
Post by: Bob33 on November 04, 2022, 07:35:32 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on November 04, 2022, 07:55:34 PM
Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models as well
The difference is night and day anyone that says they can’t tell the difference is lying to themselves
Post by: Taco280AI on November 04, 2022, 08:08:49 PM
Post by: tsgman on November 04, 2022, 08:44:06 PM
I ended up with a Kowa 883 with the TZ11 wide angle eye piece. It feels like home too. They are highly rated, and I have never heard them compared to as inferior to Swaros. Kowa is worth checking out.
Mirage will effect your ability to glass long range before your spotters magnification usually.
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 04, 2022, 10:03:59 PM
Better than Swaro 65mm in clarity and brightness and weight close.
50 zoom is plenty. 65mm if packing, otherwise 80-90mm
Post by: fowl smacker on November 04, 2022, 10:20:25 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 05, 2022, 08:40:01 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 05, 2022, 08:46:33 AM
Post by: Ironhead on November 05, 2022, 08:47:33 AM
Post by: Benny on November 05, 2022, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 05, 2022, 08:58:10 AM
Muley: If you could only keep one ? 95 or 115 ? Eyepiece or BTX? Thinking about going to 17-40 for packing and swap 65 for bigger for truck work.
Definitely the 95. I use the eyepiece a lot more than the BTX, and do a lot of glassing with the 15's or NL12's.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 05, 2022, 10:06:25 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 05, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Thk u! Yea the NL 12’s are so nice I’m dragging feet on going to ranging binos but the remote targeting feature is tough to pass up.
For many years, I've carried both 10x on my chest and 15x in my pack. The NL 12s took their place, and do both jobs very well. They are pretty amazing. Allows me to not worry as much about the weight and space of the big glass in my pack.
Post by: X-Force on November 05, 2022, 12:08:06 PM
Just looked through Maven Swarovski, Leupold, and ended up with a Vortex Razor 27-60x85. I determined it to be the best bang for my buck.
What kind of light conditions were you in?
I’ve looked through the same and maven really stood out, especially the last 15-20 min of shooting light.
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on November 05, 2022, 01:17:37 PM
I run the Swaro 30-70 eyepiece on the 95mm and BTX on the 115mm. There's very little difference between the 95 and 115 when using the eye piece. However, the 115 gathers noticeably more light than the 95 with the BTX. I run my magnification up to 70 all the time with the 95mm and don't have issues with clarity in most lighting situations. The only time I run into clarity issues is if I add the extender. You need good lighting conditions then.
Thank you, someone that understood what I was asking. I was thinking hard about the swaro’s and wondered if the additional 20mm is worth the extra $1500. I’d definitely be going the eye piece route, personally not a fan of the btx.
Post by: BKMFR on November 05, 2022, 01:31:23 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on November 05, 2022, 03:39:37 PM
Overcast 8am-ish Not first light, but not fully light.Just looked through Maven Swarovski, Leupold, and ended up with a Vortex Razor 27-60x85. I determined it to be the best bang for my buck.
What kind of light conditions were you in?
I’ve looked through the same and maven really stood out, especially the last 15-20 min of shooting light.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 05, 2022, 04:26:08 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 05, 2022, 04:28:22 PM
I use a Swarovski 20-60 eye piece, 1.7x magnifier, and a 95 obj.... works great when heat isn't an issue.Can you run a 20-60 by itself on a 95ATX, or does it become a 30-70 on the 95 I think???
Post by: huntandjeep on November 05, 2022, 05:46:26 PM
I have a swaro 20-60x65 spotter and rarely do I ever zoom much further than 35ish. If I had to do it over again I would get the wide angle zoom 25-50 I think it is. I am usually glassing in the 400-800 yard range.I started with a 20x60 eyepiece on My Swarovski , then bought the 25x50 Wide angle. Glad I did . The 25 stays on the scope 95% of the time
Post by: Benny on November 05, 2022, 06:51:43 PM
Post by: pickardjw on November 05, 2022, 09:47:47 PM
I must be the minority. If I could have 500x on a scope I would :chuckle:
https://optcorp.com/products/celestron-cpc-deluxe-1100-hd-telescope?gclid=Cj0KCQjwk5ibBhDqARIsACzmgLQHaKwPbqvXTa-adEEFWJkaj1ghPYQE1j1Uz_nYor0G4lTwInCA9b0aAtbuEALw_wcB
Might be a bit heavy to pack in but spotting deer on Mars should be a breeze :chuckle: