Post by: saylean on December 08, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 05:48:47 PM
Post by: buckfvr on December 08, 2022, 05:54:22 PM
It's not gonna stop no matter how involved we get, the commission has an agenda and the votes to get it done.
X2 :yeah:
Post by: saylean on December 08, 2022, 06:00:15 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 06:05:02 PM
Doing nothing will surely do nothing
I'm all ears!
I've wrote all the commission members, I've wrote my reps, I've joined multiple groups like SCI RMEF WSTA and others
I'm not current on a couple I could fix that for sure
I vote the right way, not sure how I could vote harder :dunno:
Lime I said, I'm all ears!
Post by: buckfvr on December 08, 2022, 06:08:41 PM
Post by: HillHound on December 08, 2022, 06:16:10 PM
I guess I’m gonna have to trap a pile of beavers this year to go along with everything else we won’t be able to manage soon. When I hear they want to close spring bear, I hear kill double the fall bears, want to close beaver trapping, let’s get out and over trap every good area we know. Not going to be able to for long.
Post by: saylean on December 08, 2022, 06:51:56 PM
Doing nothing will surely do nothing
I'm all ears!
I've wrote all the commission members, I've wrote my reps, I've joined multiple groups like SCI RMEF WSTA and others
I'm not current on a couple I could fix that for sure
I vote the right way, not sure how I could vote harder :dunno:
Lime I said, I'm all ears!
Continue that, speak if you can, encourage others to do so. Do I expect my 3 minutes of talk to make any difference? It really, but it will take away from antis being able to speak for those three minutes and that’s a win to me.
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 08, 2022, 06:54:52 PM
Commissioner Rowland
Melanie Rowland, WDFW Commission
(At-Large position, Okanogan County)
Occupation: Retired, environmental attorney, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Office of General Counsel
Current Term: January 24, 2022 - December 31, 2026
Melanie J. Rowland has lived in Washington and enjoyed its stunning natural landscapes since the 1970's. She served in the Northwest Regional Office of General Counsel for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), where she advised the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) on matters pertaining to the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and other federal environmental laws. While at NOAA she was a member of the NMFS national working group on the effects of climate change on marine species and co-authored several publications on this topic. Since retiring from NOAA, she has volunteered as a member of the board and legal counsel for the Methow Valley Citizens Council.
Prior to her service with NOAA, Commissioner Rowland was a Visiting Scholar at the University of Washington’s Institute for Environmental Studies and the Law School, where she co-authored the country’s leading wildlife law treatise and taught courses in conservation biology and wildlife law. Previously, she served as Senior Counsel for The Wilderness Society, and as Assistant Dean at the University of Washington and the University of Puget Sound law schools. She obtained her undergraduate degree from Stanford University and her law degree from the University of Pennsylvania Law School.
Commissioner Rowland and her husband live in Twisp. They enjoy hiking, birding, and cross-country skiing in the beautiful Methow Valley. They also enjoy sea kayaking on the coasts of Washington, BC, and Alaska. She is an avid student of wildlife track and sign and is certified by CyberTracker.
For what it's worth. There is a member who was banned from this site who is taking the MVCC personal to task for destroying his trapline last year. The person who was cited had her arraignment and she showed up with a suit. They had a court date set in the next month. I'm guessing Rowland is not pleased that they have to deal with a trapper.
Post by: MADMAX on December 08, 2022, 06:56:47 PM
Post by: high_hunter on December 08, 2022, 07:06:04 PM
-HH
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 08, 2022, 07:07:38 PM
I can’t believe how brainwashed people are getting.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 08, 2022, 07:12:14 PM
Post by: Special T on December 08, 2022, 07:26:01 PM
A ban on beaver trapping will cause lots of problems down low and nothing for the beavers we need in the mountains.
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 08, 2022, 07:58:45 PM
https://methowbeaverproject.org/
Post by: lewy on December 08, 2022, 08:09:33 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 08, 2022, 08:15:53 PM
I'm at the point of view now were I consider myself a native of this land. I have done these things in the outdoors for my entire life, as did my ancestors. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal wants me to. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal says its "illegal now". F those people and their agenda. I will always do what i have always doneI was thinking how to say what you just said, you nailed it!! Call me a poacher when they outlaw hunting, I don’t give two F’s!!!
Post by: lewy on December 08, 2022, 08:18:19 PM
Post by: lewy on December 08, 2022, 08:39:06 PM
Post by: timberfaller on December 08, 2022, 08:46:45 PM
Today's news cycle is proof enough we are in deep do do!!! Thanks, all you liberal voting Dems!! :mor:
Post by: MADMAX on December 08, 2022, 08:57:23 PM
Post by: jeffro on December 08, 2022, 09:23:54 PM
Every time a beaver dams up a spawning creek, no more salmon run there
When I was growing up, Quilceda creek ran along side and across the back of the property
Lots of beavers around
Every spring the WDFW would show up with a truckload of dynamite and blow all the dams sky high
Now that the Tulalips have their own hatchery, the whole area is a permanent flood plain
Post by: high_hunter on December 08, 2022, 09:41:40 PM
Melanie Rowland, J.D.
Commissioner Rowland
Melanie Rowland, WDFW Commission
(At-Large position, Okanogan County)
Occupation: Retired, environmental attorney, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Office of General Counsel
Current Term: January 24, 2022 - December 31, 2026
Melanie J. Rowland has lived in Washington and enjoyed its stunning natural landscapes since the 1970's. She served in the Northwest Regional Office of General Counsel for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), where she advised the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) on matters pertaining to the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and other federal environmental laws. While at NOAA she was a member of the NMFS national working group on the effects of climate change on marine species and co-authored several publications on this topic. Since retiring from NOAA, she has volunteered as a member of the board and legal counsel for the Methow Valley Citizens Council.
Prior to her service with NOAA, Commissioner Rowland was a Visiting Scholar at the University of Washington’s Institute for Environmental Studies and the Law School, where she co-authored the country’s leading wildlife law treatise and taught courses in conservation biology and wildlife law. Previously, she served as Senior Counsel for The Wilderness Society, and as Assistant Dean at the University of Washington and the University of Puget Sound law schools. She obtained her undergraduate degree from Stanford University and her law degree from the University of Pennsylvania Law School.
Commissioner Rowland and her husband live in Twisp. They enjoy hiking, birding, and cross-country skiing in the beautiful Methow Valley. They also enjoy sea kayaking on the coasts of Washington, BC, and Alaska. She is an avid student of wildlife track and sign and is certified by CyberTracker.
For what it's worth. There is a member who was banned from this site who is taking the MVCC personal to task for destroying his trapline last year. The person who was cited had her arraignment and she showed up with a suit. They had a court date set in the next month. I'm guessing Rowland is not pleased that they have to deal with a trapper.
**Updated as I may not have been thinking of the correct member and don't want to detract from the value of this thread**
Good for taking the fight to them and maybe we can do something to support like get howl.org involved if this issue escalates beyond tomorrow's meeting.
@Ridgeratt thanks for the info on Rowland's profile. For those interested here is the citation/location for her as well as the other commissioners: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/members
Thanks,
High hunter
Post by: JakeLand on December 09, 2022, 05:00:59 AM
On the end of the article I read it mentioned about the Tulalip tribes work on relocating beaver. Then I recall a grant of something like 320K to relocate 3 or 4 beaver on the South fork of the Skykomish. What a freaking joke. It all falls in line with Rowlands personal agenda.yep and I got hired to trap the tagged beaver in the town of skykomish as they had dammed up the culverts that go under the town to the river . Trap a nuisance beaver that was previously trapped for being a nuisance, makes complete sense
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 09, 2022, 07:49:21 AM
If its the member I'm thinking of she'll sure confuse the heck out of them like she did to many of us here! :dunno:
That said good for her for taking the fight to them and maybe we can do something to support like get howl.org involved if this issue escalates beyond tomorrow's meeting.
@Ridgeratt thanks for the info on Rowland's profile. For those interested here is the citation/location for her as well as the other commissioners: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/members
Thanks,
High hunter
I'm not sure those are the pronouns "they" would identify with.
Post by: JakeLand on December 09, 2022, 09:16:54 AM
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 09, 2022, 09:23:11 AM
here it is Jakeland.
Post by: Tbar on December 09, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Post by: JakeLand on December 09, 2022, 10:04:02 AM
Remind her that they are prolific rodents. I think APHIS will freak if there are constraints on trapping, especially wco work. APHIS does not have the capacity to fill the necessary void if the wco workforce are handcuffed. On the flip side I think this could expose the extreme and whacky agendas to to general public. When society is impacted by ill informed policies it may help going forward. The entire state will be impacted by blanket protection of beaver maybe a better case to focus on than predators. Predators are largely out of sight and mind of most, beavers will cause mass destruction statewide.im glad you’re speaking up on this issue you and I both know what would/does happen when beavers get in a area especially a urban area
Post by: KFhunter on December 09, 2022, 11:05:53 AM
Quit trapping urban beaver
Post by: boneaddict on December 09, 2022, 11:13:21 AM
Post by: Tbar on December 09, 2022, 11:52:48 AM
It would be interesting to see. I'm not sure any demographic urban/suburban/rural/ag would not be impacted. I do appreciate where beavers have a positive impact on ecological health, but I also realize they are managed. Absent management with 7.5+ million residents it could be what's needed to daylight extremes. My mind goes from urban to rural to awe inspiring localized flooding. The architect doesn't conduct EA's prior to construction.Remind her that they are prolific rodents. I think APHIS will freak if there are constraints on trapping, especially wco work. APHIS does not have the capacity to fill the necessary void if the wco workforce are handcuffed. On the flip side I think this could expose the extreme and whacky agendas to to general public. When society is impacted by ill informed policies it may help going forward. The entire state will be impacted by blanket protection of beaver maybe a better case to focus on than predators. Predators are largely out of sight and mind of most, beavers will cause mass destruction statewide.im glad you’re speaking up on this issue you and I both know what would/does happen when beavers get in a area especially a urban area
Post by: salmosalar on December 09, 2022, 12:04:58 PM
But what about the Orca's!
Every time a beaver dams up a spawning creek, no more salmon run there
When I was growing up, Quilceda creek ran along side and across the back of the property
Lots of beavers around
Every spring the WDFW would show up with a truckload of dynamite and blow all the dams sky high
Now that the Tulalips have their own hatchery, the whole area is a permanent flood plain
Beavers tend to create excellent coho habitat. I don't think that they have much of an effect of the movement of chinook. The orca's are all about chinook. Probably not the best tree to bark up.
Beavers are really tough on homeowners in some parts of he west side. In it's natural state, it seems like the west side was a series of beaver ponds. Of course, it is not in it's natural state. There needs to be management options.
For all you all that see this as a political issue, you may want to look at other ways to effect the political game. I would say that you could lobby the "other side of the isle" or push for candidates in the party that you generally vote for that are more palatable to the majority in their districts. I am from the Northeast. Republicans can and do get elected as governors there. Mass has a very popular republican governor. in Charlie Baker. New Hampshire has Chris Sununu. Neither behave at all like Loren Culp.
I'm just trying to offer a different perspective. You can only control what you control. The R's control their candidates. The candidates that they run on for governor tend to get walloped. Whether you like Culp or not, candidates like him have exactly 0% chance of winning a statewide election.
Post by: JakeLand on December 09, 2022, 12:17:52 PM
1- how do you count a beaver population
2- to find out how many trappers there are ? Just look in your own computer!!!
How many are caught for fur and how many caught for nuisance? Again look on your computer!!
Most of her questions take one minute to look it up
Why are there not beavers in certain areas ? Simple is they can’t survive there naturally whether it’s starving, freezing out , disease or predators ( cougar and bobcat target them )
She’s a clueless twit that shouldn’t be running on a commission
Rant over ……… for now
Post by: KFhunter on December 09, 2022, 12:32:48 PM
The questions and statements she makes aren't genuine fact finding questions she's trying to find answers too, but rather a very thin veneer in which to cover her agenda, which has already predetermined every judgment she'll ever make.
Her little disingenuous questions and remarks sends WDFW off on goose chases trying to answer her nitpicks.
Don't get sucked in, or if you do, realize that its fruitless, she'll immediately pivot to a different nitpick
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 09, 2022, 12:49:03 PM
But what about the Orca's!
Every time a beaver dams up a spawning creek, no more salmon run there
When I was growing up, Quilceda creek ran along side and across the back of the property
Lots of beavers around
Every spring the WDFW would show up with a truckload of dynamite and blow all the dams sky high
Now that the Tulalips have their own hatchery, the whole area is a permanent flood plain
Beavers tend to create excellent coho habitat. I don't think that they have much of an effect of the movement of chinook. The orca's are all about chinook. Probably not the best tree to bark up.
Beavers are really tough on homeowners in some parts of he west side. In it's natural state, it seems like the west side was a series of beaver ponds. Of course, it is not in it's natural state. There needs to be management options.
For all you all that see this as a political issue, you may want to look at other ways to effect the political game. I would say that you could lobby the "other side of the isle" or push for candidates in the party that you generally vote for that are more palatable to the majority in their districts. I am from the Northeast. Republicans can and do get elected as governors there. Mass has a very popular republican governor. in Charlie Baker. New Hampshire has Chris Sununu. Neither behave at all like Loren Culp.
I'm just trying to offer a different perspective. You can only control what you control. The R's control their candidates. The candidates that they run on for governor tend to get walloped. Whether you like Culp or not, candidates like him have exactly 0% chance of winning a statewide election.
I guess it depends on how big the dam is? I've come across a few ponds and the outlet stream is reduced so much that the salmon just group up at the dam. Usually so shallow their fins are out of the water and they can't jump the dam. But I've also seen small dams on side channels for more substantial rivers that salmon and steelhead do get past.
Kind of like there's a dam height/water level combo that is a barrier.
Post by: salmosalar on December 09, 2022, 01:57:44 PM
But what about the Orca's!
Every time a beaver dams up a spawning creek, no more salmon run there
When I was growing up, Quilceda creek ran along side and across the back of the property
Lots of beavers around
Every spring the WDFW would show up with a truckload of dynamite and blow all the dams sky high
Now that the Tulalips have their own hatchery, the whole area is a permanent flood plain
Beavers tend to create excellent coho habitat. I don't think that they have much of an effect of the movement of chinook. The orca's are all about chinook. Probably not the best tree to bark up.
Beavers are really tough on homeowners in some parts of he west side. In it's natural state, it seems like the west side was a series of beaver ponds. Of course, it is not in it's natural state. There needs to be management options.
For all you all that see this as a political issue, you may want to look at other ways to effect the political game. I would say that you could lobby the "other side of the isle" or push for candidates in the party that you generally vote for that are more palatable to the majority in their districts. I am from the Northeast. Republicans can and do get elected as governors there. Mass has a very popular republican governor. in Charlie Baker. New Hampshire has Chris Sununu. Neither behave at all like Loren Culp.
I'm just trying to offer a different perspective. You can only control what you control. The R's control their candidates. The candidates that they run on for governor tend to get walloped. Whether you like Culp or not, candidates like him have exactly 0% chance of winning a statewide election.
I guess it depends on how big the dam is? I've come across a few ponds and the outlet stream is reduced so much that the salmon just group up at the dam. Usually so shallow their fins are out of the water and they can't jump the dam. But I've also seen small dams on side channels for more substantial rivers that salmon and steelhead do get past.
Kind of like there's a dam height/water level combo that is a barrier.
Due to the requirements chinook have for suitable spawning sites, beavers are unlikely to have a negative effect on them accessing the parts of the basin where they would like to spawn. Simply put Chinook tend to favor mainstem spawning areas that beavers would not be able to block. Fry and smolts would likely be helped by beavers as the habitat they create are excellent for juvenile rearing and the dams provide water storage that is released during low flow periods. Beavers are generally good for salmon.
Beavers are generally awful for residents whose homes are close to streams. They create flooded areas and ponds obviously. They really love to eat and flood CREP plantings. I mean they really are hell on CREP. Maybe what people could do is to contact your local conservation district and see what they think. They may oppose based on the havoc that they reek on CREP plantings. A letter from them would carry more weight with the other commission members.
Post by: saylean on December 09, 2022, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: baker5150 on December 09, 2022, 02:39:47 PM
If you go back through the history of her remarks, this is her MO
The questions and statements she makes aren't genuine fact finding questions she's trying to find answers too, but rather a very thin veneer in which to cover her agenda, which has already predetermined every judgment she'll ever make.
Her little disingenuous questions and remarks sends WDFW off on goose chases trying to answer her nitpicks.
Don't get sucked in, or if you do, realize that its fruitless, she'll immediately pivot to a different nitpick
:yeah:
She won't believe any answers she gets anyway.
She denied the Spring Bear data, with zero basis other than her agenda didn't agree with it.
They have found a way to get what they want. I fear for whats coming.
Post by: outdooraddict on December 09, 2022, 03:48:21 PM
I'm at the point of view now were I consider myself a native of this land. I have done these things in the outdoors for my entire life, as did my ancestors. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal wants me to. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal says its "illegal now". F those people and their agenda. I will always do what i have always doneI was thinking how to say what you just said, you nailed it!! Call me a poacher when they outlaw hunting, I don’t give two F’s!!!
took the words right out of my mouth
Post by: KFhunter on December 09, 2022, 03:59:17 PM
I get it though, I surely do! (but don't say it out loud)
Post by: hughjorgan on December 09, 2022, 04:26:05 PM
I'm at the point of view now were I consider myself a native of this land. I have done these things in the outdoors for my entire life, as did my ancestors. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal wants me to. I will not stop because some stupid ass liberal says its "illegal now". F those people and their agenda. I will always do what i have always doneI was thinking how to say what you just said, you nailed it!! Call me a poacher when they outlaw hunting, I don’t give two F’s!!!
took the words right out of my mouth
I think the term you gentleman are looking for is civil disobedience. Liberals use this tactic frequently, if you can’t beat ‘em join em. Use their tactics against them.
Post by: high_hunter on December 09, 2022, 05:54:23 PM
But what about the Orca's!
Every time a beaver dams up a spawning creek, no more salmon run there
When I was growing up, Quilceda creek ran along side and across the back of the property
Lots of beavers around
Every spring the WDFW would show up with a truckload of dynamite and blow all the dams sky high
Now that the Tulalips have their own hatchery, the whole area is a permanent flood plain
Beavers tend to create excellent coho habitat. I don't think that they have much of an effect of the movement of chinook. The orca's are all about chinook. Probably not the best tree to bark up.
Beavers are really tough on homeowners in some parts of he west side. In it's natural state, it seems like the west side was a series of beaver ponds. Of course, it is not in it's natural state. There needs to be management options.
For all you all that see this as a political issue, you may want to look at other ways to effect the political game. I would say that you could lobby the "other side of the isle" or push for candidates in the party that you generally vote for that are more palatable to the majority in their districts. I am from the Northeast. Republicans can and do get elected as governors there. Mass has a very popular republican governor. in Charlie Baker. New Hampshire has Chris Sununu. Neither behave at all like Loren Culp.
I'm just trying to offer a different perspective. You can only control what you control. The R's control their candidates. The candidates that they run on for governor tend to get walloped. Whether you like Culp or not, candidates like him have exactly 0% chance of winning a statewide election.
I guess it depends on how big the dam is? I've come across a few ponds and the outlet stream is reduced so much that the salmon just group up at the dam. Usually so shallow their fins are out of the water and they can't jump the dam. But I've also seen small dams on side channels for more substantial rivers that salmon and steelhead do get past.
Kind of like there's a dam height/water level combo that is a barrier.
Due to the requirements chinook have for suitable spawning sites, beavers are unlikely to have a negative effect on them accessing the parts of the basin where they would like to spawn. Simply put Chinook tend to favor mainstem spawning areas that beavers would not be able to block. Fry and smolts would likely be helped by beavers as the habitat they create are excellent for juvenile rearing and the dams provide water storage that is released during low flow periods. Beavers are generally good for salmon.
Beavers are generally awful for residents whose homes are close to streams. They create flooded areas and ponds obviously. They really love to eat and flood CREP plantings. I mean they really are hell on CREP. Maybe what people could do is to contact your local conservation district and see what they think. They may oppose based on the havoc that they reek on CREP plantings. A letter from them would carry more weight with the other commission members.
@salmonsalar thanks for the education on fish habitat and know I know what CREP stands for! Conservation Reserve Enhancement Program https://www.fsa.usda.gov/programs-and-services/conservation-programs/conservation-reserve-enhancement/index
Definitely would be good to get the opinions and support of other restoration groups like Land Trusts etc about the issues they face with CREP damage from beavers. Think it may be hard to garner public support from them tho but can try or at least leverage it as a concern/data point in support of continued trapping.
Looking at the blue sheet link (thanks @ridgeratt) and listening to the commission meeting it is certainly clear she's springboarding off the recent bear momentum and gunnng for beavers/trapping. Many of the blue sheet questions are easily answered by looking at available WDFW data as others have stated here. I agree with @KFhunter that its just her way to distract and waste resources. We should buckle up for this one and grind it out to ensure more opportunity isn't lost in the name of "new science".
-HH
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 09, 2022, 06:04:05 PM
There's no way you convince a majority of people to hate beaver. So this one will gain some traction....
This is just a calculated attack on a way of life. They don't care about the beaver, the bear, etc
..They care more about taking away lifestyles....
Baby steps to a bigger goal.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 09, 2022, 06:16:29 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on December 09, 2022, 06:29:26 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 09, 2022, 06:52:49 PM
......and just remember, this tool is now a Methow Valley resident. Lives fairy close to where our former Jingles had his incident if I remember correctly. Cancers like her have ruined this state.
If you review the FOIA this is almost verbatim just changing the names of the requesters.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271863.0.html
Perhaps it was sheer coincidence that Rowland was a legal representative for MVCC when the members of the MVCC submitted the request.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 09, 2022, 08:46:08 PM
......and just remember, this tool is now a Methow Valley resident. Lives fairy close to where our former Jingles had his incident if I remember correctly. Cancers like her have ruined this state.
If you review the FOIA this is almost verbatim just changing the names of the requesters.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271863.0.html
Perhaps it was sheer coincidence that Rowland was a legal representative for MVCC when the members of the MVCC submitted the request.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 10, 2022, 08:23:04 AM
I guess beavers accelerate climate crisis.
https://news.yahoo.com/beavers-moving-warming-arctic-could-110011365.html
Post by: hunter399 on December 10, 2022, 10:08:11 AM
Or whatever you want to call them. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: h3x0ctb1n on December 10, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
Post by: lewy on December 10, 2022, 12:06:44 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2022, 12:21:56 PM
At what point do we file a lawsuit against the wdfw and inslee for mis management and corruption? Its pretty abvious that they have a personal agenda that they are working towards, they are even going against their own bio's recomendations to achieve it.
I think if his next commission appointment is a far left anti we might have a case..I was just talking to some buddies about that scenario.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 10, 2022, 12:35:31 PM
At what point do we file a lawsuit against the wdfw and inslee for mis management and corruption? Its pretty abvious that they have a personal agenda that they are working towards, they are even going against their own bio's recomendations to achieve it.
Best guess is will be when you have someone willing to spend the money to do it, because "justice" isn't free.
Great time to get the big sportsman backed organizations together and open their wallets, as individuals, it just is really not possible due to the costs.
Question is, will they be willing to go the distance till all legal options and expenses are used?
Post by: UrbanTrapper on December 17, 2022, 10:39:15 PM
Post by: UrbanTrapper on December 17, 2022, 10:47:52 PM
On the end of the article I read it mentioned about the Tulalip tribes work on relocating beaver. Then I recall a grant of something like 320K to relocate 3 or 4 beaver on the South fork of the Skykomish. What a freaking joke. It all falls in line with Rowlands personal agenda.
What article? Please post a link.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 18, 2022, 05:47:17 AM
https://usfwspacificnw.medium.com/history-heritage-and-environmental-stewardship-celebrating-our-2022-tribal-wildlife-grants-99c0b6b3e451
https://nwtreatytribes.org/beavers-relocated-improve-salmon-habitat/
Post by: hunter399 on December 18, 2022, 09:38:41 AM
Till all of Washington is a bambi image.
This is the small potatoes,that lead to big potatoes.
Oops wrong image.....
You know what I mean :chuckle: