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Title: fish sauce recipe
Post by: metlhead on December 11, 2022, 01:21:27 PM
Some reason fish sauce seems to be popping into conversation quite often lately. Daughter loves the stuff. I always end up with more herring than I use, and a lot of mackerel in the summer. Anybody try their own, and trust it?
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Fidelk on December 11, 2022, 02:18:22 PM
I like Thai Kitchen products (Fish Sauce, Red and Green Curry Paste, Coconut Milk)......rather just buy it form QFC, Safeway, Walmart than try and make it.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Southpole on December 11, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
I’ll stick with the commercial stuff. A little bit goes along way with me.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 11, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
I seen how they make that stuff in Malaysia.  I stopped using it after that.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: CP on December 11, 2022, 02:34:01 PM
I’ve seen it (and smelled it) being made in Korea.

I believe that you just mix anchovies and salt in a fermenting vat and let that “stew” for 12 to 18 months.  Then press the liquid out.

Seems like a lot could go wrong with that process; I wouldn’t recommend DIY fish sauce. 
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 12, 2022, 08:34:37 AM
I’ve seen it (and smelled it) being made in Korea.

I believe that you just mix anchovies and salt in a fermenting vat and let that “stew” for 12 to 18 months.  Then press the liquid out.

Seems like a lot could go wrong with that process; I wouldn’t recommend DIY fish sauce.

I can't imagine it being worth the effort, and I LOVE fish sauce. Use it almost daily.

I'll bet Merkaba has given it a whirl.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 12, 2022, 08:48:18 AM
If you were only closer, this place is the bomb. It even has hot to go food plus frozen lumpia.👍
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: metlhead on December 12, 2022, 08:56:13 AM
Thanks. Seemed almost too easy to make. I do worry about the putrid factor. I've done kraut that seemed off, and tossed it out.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 12, 2022, 09:28:34 AM
Fish sauce is really cheap at Asian Food markets. You can get 750ml for $4 or something. I would imagine making your own would come with great food safety risk.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Fidelk on December 12, 2022, 09:54:08 AM
I use fish sauce fairly often when making Faux-Thai. The cool thing about it, just like adding anchovies to a pasta sauce, is that it pretty much disappears into and enhances the sauce.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 12, 2022, 10:22:25 AM
I use fish sauce fairly often when making Faux-Thai. The cool thing about it, just like adding anchovies to a pasta sauce, is that it pretty much disappears into and enhances the sauce.

Exactly. Just another flavorful way to add salt. And all those folks who say they hate anchovies seem to really like my red sauce!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: merkaba93 on December 12, 2022, 11:32:23 AM
So I've tried it. It's an interesting process.

My favorite use is Nuoc Cham dipping sauce
3 tbs fish sauce
3 tbs white vinegar
2 tbs sugar
2 garlic cloves
1 Thai chili
2 tbs lime juice

Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: merkaba93 on December 12, 2022, 11:33:13 AM
It turned out great. But not any better than store bought. Not financially worth the work either.

It doesn't seem like the fermentation process is fully understood. A lot of the breakdown is thought to be done by enzymes in the digestive tracts of the salted fish.

Making soy sauce isn't worth it financially either but I still do that each year. I feel like it's better than store bought.

I've made oyster sauce before. Turned out good, but again not as good as store bought. And the way more expensive.

So in summary,
Homemade fish sauce, not better than store bought, more expensive.
Homemade soy sauce better than store bought, more expensive.
Homemade oyster sauce, not better than store bought, more expensive.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: LDennis24 on December 12, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
My best friend growing up is Italian and Thai and his Thai mother would scold me for using Kikkoman soy sauce and not fish sauce. She also said anything with carrots was not authentic Asian Cuisine. She was old school and hard core. Her and her friends would go up to Colville and pick roots to pickle for snacking on while they played Pai Gow! Salsify and what-not...     Didn't we have a thread on here about Worcestershire sauce?
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 12, 2022, 12:34:24 PM
Red Boat is an excellent fish sauce I used to sell. The 40N is the top of the line. https://redboatfishsauce.com/collections/shop/products/fish-sauce-40n?variant=40644609605797
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Fidelk on December 12, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
I use fish sauce fairly often when making Faux-Thai. The cool thing about it, just like adding anchovies to a pasta sauce, is that it pretty much disappears into and enhances the sauce.

Exactly. Just another flavorful way to add salt. And all those folks who say they hate anchovies seem to really like my red sauce!  :chuckle:

Viva La Putanesca.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 12, 2022, 02:08:34 PM
My best friend growing up is Italian and Thai and his Thai mother would scold me for using Kikkoman soy sauce and not fish sauce. She also said anything with carrots was not authentic Asian Cuisine. She was old school and hard core. Her and her friends would go up to Colville and pick roots to pickle for snacking on while they played Pai Gow! Salsify and what-not...     Didn't we have a thread on here about Worcestershire sauce?

I'm with her on the Kikkoman!
I started using light soy sauce (not to be confused with low sodium) and it's way better. I use Pearl River Bridge, and I agree with P-Man on the Red Boat fish sauce.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 12, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
Here’s the one we get at that store.

Can’t get anymore Asian than the PI.🤣
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 12, 2022, 06:52:44 PM
I’ve seen it (and smelled it) being made in Korea.

I believe that you just mix anchovies and salt in a fermenting vat and let that “stew” for 12 to 18 months.  Then press the liquid out.

Seems like a lot could go wrong with that process; I wouldn’t recommend DIY fish sauce.

Sounds like the making of Worcestershire sauce.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 13, 2022, 07:44:06 AM
Here’s the one we get at that store.

Can’t get anymore Asian than the PI.🤣

Ah, that's a different animal. Filipino fish sauce was my first foray into the world of fish sauce. Saltier and less fishy, but still yummy. If you haven't already, try a Vietnamese sauce like Red Boat, as Pianoman suggested. I need to pick up a bottle of Filipino sauce soon as it's been a long time.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 13, 2022, 07:39:49 PM
Here’s the one we get at that store.

Can’t get anymore Asian than the PI.🤣

Ah, that's a different animal. Filipino fish sauce was my first foray into the world of fish sauce. Saltier and less fishy, but still yummy. If you haven't already, try a Vietnamese sauce like Red Boat, as Pianoman suggested. I need to pick up a bottle of Filipino sauce soon as it's been a long time.

👍
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 14, 2022, 06:51:31 AM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)     
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 14, 2022, 09:10:40 AM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)   

Do you enjoy Thai food at all?
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 14, 2022, 06:40:30 PM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)   

Do you enjoy Thai food at all?


Nope. Try not to eat food from countries that possibly eat dogs.  :o
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Southpole on December 14, 2022, 06:59:21 PM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)   

Do you enjoy Thai food at all?


Nope. Try not to eat food from countries that possibly eat dogs.  :o
The usual Thai food you get in the U.S. is not scary mystery meat. It’s usually fresh stir fried, chicken, beef, fish, vegetable, curry/coconut/fish sauce, herbs and maybe a lot of spice if you want. I find U.S. type Thai food very refreshing, I love it.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 14, 2022, 07:03:53 PM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)   

Do you enjoy Thai food at all?


Nope. Try not to eat food from countries that possibly eat dogs.  :o
The usual Thai food you get in the U.S. is not scary mystery meat. It’s usually fresh stir fried, chicken, beef, fish, vegetable, curry/coconut/fish sauce, herbs and maybe a lot of spice if you want. I find U.S. type Thai food very refreshing, I love it.

Thai food is the bomb, lots of it around the North Sound area.
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Southpole on December 14, 2022, 07:08:45 PM
Always thought the name "fish sauce" sounded GROSS, and therefore have never tried it....After reading this thread, and seeing merkaba's pics



I have made a dang good choice.    :)   

Do you enjoy Thai food at all?


Nope. Try not to eat food from countries that possibly eat dogs.  :o
The usual Thai food you get in the U.S. is not scary mystery meat. It’s usually fresh stir fried, chicken, beef, fish, vegetable, curry/coconut/fish sauce, herbs and maybe a lot of spice if you want. I find U.S. type Thai food very refreshing, I love it.

Thai food is the bomb, lots of it around the North Sound area.
I’ll miss it   :(
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 14, 2022, 07:17:26 PM
Refer to pic in reply12.

ZERO part of me wants to eat anything that comes from a bucket that looks like this.  :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
Looks like a Lugable Loo users results.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: Angry Perch on December 15, 2022, 09:23:53 AM
How about this yummy stuff?

Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: merkaba93 on December 16, 2022, 07:17:05 PM
Ha! Usually the food threads don't go off the rails.

But Angry Perch is about to make a very good point, Worcestershire sauce uses fermented fish in it. Worcestershire is a very common ingredient in British/American dishes. So, chances are, we've all eaten something with some sort of fermented fish in it.

Also the Romans made fish sauce for a long long time, but they called it garum.

Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 17, 2022, 06:15:55 AM
yea but worchesterishchustrshire is fun to say  :chuckle: and does not sound gross. I dont care for either.  :hello:
Title: Re: fish sauce recipe
Post by: 85yota on December 18, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Used the stuff for years never had a clue what was in it and I still don't really care lol.
Stalecracker on YouTube turned me onto this stuff and my dad seems to like it..
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