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Title: Where's the beef?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 20, 2023, 02:16:35 PM
Where it lays.  Too bad they don't allow a special hunt.  Been there for years, what's a few more weeks.  They should do these hunts where feral horses and burros are destroying habitat.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/150-feral-cattle-to-be-shot-from-sky-in-new-mexico-national-forest-as-us-forest-service-issues-kill-order/ar-AA17IEQJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8d67d66b15f34b6a8b552857432172a7
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: nwwanderer on February 21, 2023, 08:51:27 AM
By feds own numbers 50 or 60k feral equines need to disappear and they run a program to whack 150 bovines.  Kind of like trimming your toe nails because you have stage 4 cancer
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: GASoline71 on February 21, 2023, 03:07:30 PM
The AR's got that ball rolling... Feral horses are too much like my little ponies, so they can't fathom having them shot.  But animals that provide a meat food source... sure, kill those.   :rolleyes:

Gary
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Platensek-po on February 21, 2023, 04:05:17 PM
They could have sold tags and made money and people
Could have gotten meat from it. Instead spending lots of money and I assume the meat will go to waste. What a shame
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Alchase on February 21, 2023, 07:46:09 PM
Hunting wild LongHorn cattle in heavy brush would be crazy!  :yike:

We have wild Longhorn here in Oklahoma, They are not something to take lightly. They can be very aggressive.
So I’ll would be a kick in the pants to try. :tup:

Quoting Pea Eye Parker, Lonesome Dove, “Them bulls 'll hook you.”  :hello:
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Platensek-po on February 21, 2023, 08:19:04 PM
Hunting wild LongHorn cattle in heavy brush would be crazy!  :yike:

We have wild Longhorn here in Oklahoma, They are not something to take lightly. They can be very aggressive.
So I’ll would be a kick in the pants to try. :tup:

Quoting Pea Eye Parker, Lonesome Dove, “Them bulls 'll hook you.”  :hello:

Is there something against it? If it’s feral and on public land does Ok have some law protecting it?
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 21, 2023, 08:49:15 PM
Nobody is taking time to read it.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Alchase on February 21, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
Hunting wild LongHorn cattle in heavy brush would be crazy!  :yike:

We have wild Longhorn here in Oklahoma, They are not something to take lightly. They can be very aggressive.
So I’ll would be a kick in the pants to try. :tup:

Quoting Pea Eye Parker, Lonesome Dove, “Them bulls 'll hook you.”  :hello:

Is there something against it? If it’s feral and on public land does Ok have some law protecting it?

In Oklahoma they are mostly on wildlife refuges, so no hunting allowed.
That I know of.   :bash:

We have seen the attack a couple cars in the Wichita Wild Life Refuge in SW Ok.

If you could hunt them you would get a serious amount of beef. They are huge.  :tup:
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Platensek-po on February 21, 2023, 09:35:00 PM
Hunting wild LongHorn cattle in heavy brush would be crazy!  :yike:

We have wild Longhorn here in Oklahoma, They are not something to take lightly. They can be very aggressive.
So I’ll would be a kick in the pants to try. :tup:

Quoting Pea Eye Parker, Lonesome Dove, “Them bulls 'll hook you.”  :hello:

Is there something against it? If it’s feral and on public land does Ok have some law protecting it?

In Oklahoma they are mostly on wildlife refuges, so no hunting allowed.
That I know of.   :bash:

We have seen the attack a couple cars in the Wichita Wild Life Refuge in SW Ok.

If you could hunt them you would get a serious amount of beef. They are huge.  :tup:

Dang that would be awesome. Apparently these ones are on national forest. Not sure why they don’t sell tags for them :dunno:
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: chukarchaser on February 22, 2023, 05:30:42 PM
Whats the difference between a feral cow and wild horse, turns out its sentiment.  I also question whether the bull in the photo is feral.  Looks pretty good to me
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Dan-o on February 22, 2023, 05:37:43 PM
The bull in the pics looks healthy. 

The article says they'll leave them where they fall. 
Those will be some spoiled coyotes for a little while.   

It does seem a shame they can't sell tags.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: KFhunter on February 22, 2023, 05:51:22 PM
I’d eat that
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Dan-o on February 22, 2023, 06:06:39 PM
I’d eat that

Ultimate free range beef.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 22, 2023, 06:56:36 PM
Hunting wild LongHorn cattle in heavy brush would be crazy!  :yike:

We have wild Longhorn here in Oklahoma, They are not something to take lightly. They can be very aggressive.
So I’ll would be a kick in the pants to try. :tup:

Quoting Pea Eye Parker, Lonesome Dove, “Them bulls 'll hook you.”  :hello:

Is there something against it? If it’s feral and on public land does Ok have some law protecting it?

In Oklahoma they are mostly on wildlife refuges, so no hunting allowed.
That I know of.   :bash:

We have seen the attack a couple cars in the Wichita Wild Life Refuge in SW Ok.

If you could hunt them you would get a serious amount of beef. They are huge.  :tup:

Dang that would be awesome. Apparently these ones are on national forest. Not sure why they don’t sell tags for them :dunno:
Probably has to be a game animal for a tag.  God forbid they allow someone to take a feral beef.  Me and my dog would be eating good.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: 7mmfan on February 23, 2023, 07:46:58 AM
If they plan on just leaving them where they fall, my guess is that a few guys will conveniently find themselves in the area and go take advantage of the slaughter after the fact. I would.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: KFhunter on February 23, 2023, 09:11:03 AM
I would think that it would be unannounced, or those people would be in harms way, and the shoot then canceled
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: nwwanderer on February 23, 2023, 10:24:12 AM
Been to the Gila?  Mighty rough, 150 head is a speck.  Bring a match and a fork
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: hunter399 on February 23, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
You guys stop talking about tags.
There probably not classified as wildlife.
Head down there and get some.

But yes they could of set something up with a food Bank or something and keep the waste down.

Or put an ad online/paper to try and get a local to round them up and auction/slaughter/or keep.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: hunter399 on February 23, 2023, 12:37:58 PM
Yup....yup..
Seen the artical now.
Center for biological diversity.......
Seeing the light now,it's getting brighter,it's burning.

Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: PolarBear on February 23, 2023, 06:04:02 PM
Here’s my take as a cattle breeder. Those critters have been feral, grass fed so long that they have basically developed their own unique genetics. That bull has been making a living on scrub and still fleshes out like good commercial herd bull. Why not auction the herd off to some investors to introduce a new strain of true grass raised beef?  A little research into these animals might lead to better carcass traits with much less feed or head per acre that can be passed on to established commercial herds. Just a thought.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 23, 2023, 07:10:48 PM
Here’s my take as a cattle breeder. Those critters have been feral, grass fed so long that they have basically developed their own unique genetics. That bull has been making a living on scrub and still fleshes out like good commercial herd bull. Why not auction the herd off to some investors to introduce a new strain of true grass raised beef?  A little research into these animals might lead to better carcass traits with much less feed or head per acre that can be passed on to established commercial herds. Just a thought.  :dunno:

That would be interesting to do. But tofu eating tree huggers in the forest circus don’t care about that.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 23, 2023, 07:31:05 PM
Have to show them the White Oak Pastures study that shows organic , free range, grass fed cattle are actually a carbon sink.
Title: Re: Where's the beef?
Post by: bearpaw on February 23, 2023, 07:48:33 PM
I don't know how wild these cattle in AZ are, but they are potentially quite elusive if they have evolved anything like the wild cattle (scrub bulls) in Australia?
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