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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: Mtnwalker on May 01, 2023, 01:55:30 PM
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Time to start thinking about some new shoes for the Cummins. I know there's been a couple tire threads lately but I'm looking for recommendations specifically for a diesel on snowy and icy mountain roads. Right now I've got Toyo RT's on it and they've been great on the road and in the mountains until the snow flies. I've had a couple scares sliding sideways or backwards from a stop with the kids in the truck and I crunched my trailer sliding backwards into a tree this fall. And yes I do carry chains and use them regularly, but the Toyo's turn into skates once there's snow on the ground. Anybody got one you really like?
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We use Bridgestone dueler revo's on our two wheel drive service trucks and they are pretty fantastic on snow and ice.
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I put Faulken wildpeaks on my 2020 chevy 3500 diesel. I thought they performed really well. I'm planning on putting them on my girlfriends 4runner.
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Time to start thinking about some new shoes for the Cummins. I know there's been a couple tire threads lately but I'm looking for recommendations specifically for a diesel on snowy and icy mountain roads. Right now I've got Toyo RT's on it and they've been great on the road and in the mountains until the snow flies. I've had a couple scares sliding sideways or backwards from a stop with the kids in the truck and I crunched my trailer sliding backwards into a tree this fall. And yes I do carry chains and use them regularly, but the Toyo's turn into skates once there's snow on the ground. Anybody got one you really like?
I had the same problem. Literally no traction on ice and snow. But they last forever on gravel and the road… I got BF Goodrich KO2s. They are sweet. Not a ton off road yet actually after moving to Texas
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We use Bridgestone dueler revo's on our two wheel drive service trucks and they are pretty fantastic on snow and ice.
Those do look pretty good ! Have had good luck with Faulken Wildpeaks and Goodyear Duratracs on 1/2 tons. Probably lean towards those revo's or Michelin LTX AT2 for heavy trucks.
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Get a set of true winter tires, Blizzaks or the like. Run two sets of tires, cost is about the same once you get a second set of rims and then you have the most advantageous tire both summer and winter.
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Goodyear Duratracks all the way, if your not hauling a load air them down to 45 psi.👍
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Probably the best 4-season LT tire is Michelin LTX M/S.
They just do everything really well except check the box that says 'Look at my manly-man tires!'.
Once you get past that, they're awesome.
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I run the Toyo AT's on my 13 cummins.
They are incredible in snow and ice. WAY better than I thought they would do.
Crawling all over Idaho & Montana logging roads in snow and ice, no problems
Pulling an 18k tow hauler over Steven's pass in snow and ice, zero issues.
Much better than the MT's and these have a really high load range. Pretty Quiet too.
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Time to start thinking about some new shoes for the Cummins. I know there's been a couple tire threads lately but I'm looking for recommendations specifically for a diesel on snowy and icy mountain roads. Right now I've got Toyo RT's on it and they've been great on the road and in the mountains until the snow flies. I've had a couple scares sliding sideways or backwards from a stop with the kids in the truck and I crunched my trailer sliding backwards into a tree this fall. And yes I do carry chains and use them regularly, but the Toyo's turn into skates once there's snow on the ground. Anybody got one you really like?
I had the same problem. Literally no traction on ice and snow. But they last forever on gravel and the road… I got BF Goodrich KO2s. They are sweet. Not a ton off road yet actually after moving to Texas
Yep I was in love with them until I realized they were ice skates.
Probably the best 4-season LT tire is Michelin LTX M/S.
They just do everything really well except check the box that says 'Look at my manly-man tires!'.
Once you get past that, they're awesome.
Do you have first hand experience running these on a diesel or 3/4 ton pickup in the conditions mentioned?
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What is the difference about running tires on a diesel as opposed to a gas rig? :dunno:
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Time to start thinking about some new shoes for the Cummins. I know there's been a couple tire threads lately but I'm looking for recommendations specifically for a diesel on snowy and icy mountain roads. Right now I've got Toyo RT's on it and they've been great on the road and in the mountains until the snow flies. I've had a couple scares sliding sideways or backwards from a stop with the kids in the truck and I crunched my trailer sliding backwards into a tree this fall. And yes I do carry chains and use them regularly, but the Toyo's turn into skates once there's snow on the ground. Anybody got one you really like?
I had the same problem. Literally no traction on ice and snow. But they last forever on gravel and the road… I got BF Goodrich KO2s. They are sweet. Not a ton off road yet actually after moving to Texas
Yep I was in love with them until I realized they were ice skates.
Probably the best 4-season LT tire is Michelin LTX M/S.
They just do everything really well except check the box that says 'Look at my manly-man tires!'.
Once you get past that, they're awesome.
Do you have first hand experience running these on a diesel or 3/4 ton pickup in the conditions mentioned?
No but lots of miles on lighter gas rigs and their reputation and feedback on Tirerack.com is excellent.
I used to run only Michelin truck tires. My Falkens have been pretty good and not sure what my next set will be.
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What is the difference about running tires on a diesel as opposed to a gas rig? :dunno:
Probably not much if it's a similar weight vehicle in similar use conditions.
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I’ve had good luck with the BF Goodrich KO2 all terrains on my current cummins and my other 2 - I did try Duratracks on my 2012 and they were pretty good as well
On my current 2020 I have 35” ‘s and they have been doing great on snow and ice
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Get a set of true winter tires, Blizzaks or the like. Run two sets of tires, cost is about the same once you get a second set of rims and then you have the most advantageous tire both summer and winter.
This is the route I would go on a heavier truck. I have a few buddies doing this, go the extra mile and get them studded :twocents:
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I have had good luck with my Cooper SST Pro's.
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Wildpeaks are good on snow and drive wear well. Mine are rated @4080lbs at 80psi. 34.5 tire in metrics. I like em overall. Thicker mud is where they start to fail. Adding I thought Duratrac I had years ago on F350 are better in snow but not as good overall. Hiway falcon drives very light and quiet compared to Duratrac being louder and a heavier steer feel.
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I’m tagging and following this thread.
I have yet to find a good snow and ice tire for any of my dodges. 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, in my experience, don’t do very well at all in deep snow or super icy off road conditions. Chain them up early….or better yet, use them to tow your camp and SxS and use the SxS in the snow and ice. Leave the truck parked on flat ground.
Half ton or better yet 1/4 ton trucks and side by sides perform way better in off road snow conditions.
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I’m tagging and following this thread.
I have yet to find a good snow and ice tire for any of my dodges. 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, in my experience, don’t do very well at all in deep snow or super icy off road conditions. Chain them up early….or better yet, use them to tow your camp and SxS and use the SxS in the snow and ice. Leave the truck parked on flat ground.
Half ton or better yet 1/4 ton trucks and side by sides perform way better in off road snow conditions.
Good Year Duratracks Bro.😉
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Best ones I ever had were the factory BF Goodrich Rugged Trail TA's that came on my F250 FX4. Quiet, and they flat worked on snow and ice. They quit making them, but I searched out a takeoff set and ran those down to the cords. Couldn't find another set, so I finally broke down and got a set of Falken Wildpeaks AT 4. They are pretty good. A lot noisier, and maybe not as good as the factory tires, but the price was right and I'm generally happy with them in snow and mud.
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Probably the best 4-season LT tire is Michelin LTX M/S.
They just do everything really well except check the box that says 'Look at my manly-man tires!'.
Once you get past that, they're awesome.
Run them on a 2005 2500 crew cab duramax 4x4 and they are awesome. Also run a set of sipped BFG KM3's and they work well in snow and ice but for overall tire on snow and ice the Michelin LTX M/S are not going to be beat unless you run a true winter only tire like Blizzak or the such.
Also don't forget Michelin has a 60 day drive and free roadside assistance for 3 yrs
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I have BFG KO2's on my 06 GMC crewcab with a dmax. I've been very happy with them. Have worn really well. Traction has been really good as well.
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i have a 04.5 Dodge 1-ton 4x4 and run the Cooper S/T Maxx. better then any of the tires i've ran and are lasting quite well.
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I’m tagging and following this thread.
I have yet to find a good snow and ice tire for any of my dodges. 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, in my experience, don’t do very well at all in deep snow or super icy off road conditions. Chain them up early….or better yet, use them to tow your camp and SxS and use the SxS in the snow and ice. Leave the truck parked on flat ground.
Half ton or better yet 1/4 ton trucks and side by sides perform way better in off road snow conditions.
Good Year Duratracks Bro.
Duratracs are garbage. I had a set on my 3/4 ton Cummins and they were toast after 20k miles. Not only that but at 50% tread you couldn’t accelerate without spinning if there was any water on the ground at all. In snow, I slid down my street sideways just backing out of my driveway. My current half ton came with them unfortunately. Can’t wait to dump them. With only 18k miles, the road noise is almost unbearable at 55mph.
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Performance in virgin snow vs. compact snow and ice is not apples to apples. 10 ply open lug mudders can work well in virgin snow and be horrible in compact. If you live where you can expect 4-5 months of snow on the roads, you're better off with either studded winter traction tires or Blizzaks. We run two sets of tires on all rigs, studded winter tires being most important to us. This is not feasible if you drive a lot of dry pavement. Very hard to beat a 4wheel drive with good studded tires.
My one ton has all terrain tires on it as it mostly sits in the winter. 1/2 ton Chevy has Duratracs on it factory and Ill run them down to 50% then pass them off and go with a more comfortable all terrain tire to be determined. I run General Grabber ATX (10 ply) studded for winter tires and have found them to be very good. I chose them based on reviews, not from guys who bought them but from guys who tested them against several other winter tires.
Im also in the camp with running wheelers of some sort ( sxs or quads) in the dicey areas. For me, good studded winter tires and all my own recovery gear is a must for winter travel/recreation. Dont forget your phone and or ham radio.
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I know a year-round tire isn't going to be as good in compact snow and ice as a dedicated snow tire, but switching between summer and winter tires just isn't going to happen. That being said, I'm looking for an all season, all terrain style tire that is as good in snow and ice as this type of tire can be. My current Toyo RT's fail miserably in that department. 80% of the mileage that gets put on my personal truck these days is hunting related. I do have a sxs but I still find myself on dicey roads enough to hate my current tires. Lots of good input here, I'll start shopping when I get some time and see what I come up with :tup:
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I can't relate to the diesel part, but the best tires I've ever run on my Tundra crewmax are Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX's. They're a good all around tire not being too loud on dry pavement and when on compact snow and ice they just grip. I'm about due for another set, I have 62k on my current set that will last me through summer.
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I will probably go with the General Grabber ATX UNstudded for my non winter tire as well as the studded winter set, provided nothing changes my opinion of them.
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I will probably go with the General Grabber ATX UNstudded for my non winter tire as well as the studded winter set, provided nothing changes my opinion of them.
For what it is worth I put a set of these on last summer. Had a heck of a time getting 4 "round" ones. Be super diligent with whoever mounts them. Remember, balanced is different than round.
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I will probably go with the General Grabber ATX UNstudded for my non winter tire as well as the studded winter set, provided nothing changes my opinion of them.
For what it is worth I put a set of these on last summer. Had a heck of a time getting 4 "round" ones. Be super diligent with whoever mounts them. Remember, balanced is different than round.
Thats where road force balancing is nice!
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I can't relate to the diesel part, but the best tires I've ever run on my Tundra crewmax are Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX's. They're a good all around tire not being too loud on dry pavement and when on compact snow and ice they just grip. I'm about due for another set, I have 62k on my current set that will last me through summer.
Yup great tires. Best part is . Made in USA
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Our moose guide runs around on Firestone Destination MT2, he’s tried several different tires and nothing beats them on the snow/ice in his opinion. I couldn’t believe how good he did when we were bombing around in ne Washington in Nov . I’m not a Firestone fan at all, but, those tires kicked azz in that deep snow!
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I will probably go with the General Grabber ATX UNstudded for my non winter tire as well as the studded winter set, provided nothing changes my opinion of them.
For what it is worth I put a set of these on last summer. Had a heck of a time getting 4 "round" ones. Be super diligent with whoever mounts them. Remember, balanced is different than round.
Thats where road force balancing is nice!
I agree it helps but it won't make a square into a circle. That said, I have10 ply tires on a light truck which doesn't help. Toyo AT3's for me next time.
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I will probably go with the General Grabber ATX UNstudded for my non winter tire as well as the studded winter set, provided nothing changes my opinion of them.
For what it is worth I put a set of these on last summer. Had a heck of a time getting 4 "round" ones. Be super diligent with whoever mounts them. Remember, balanced is different than round.
Thats where road force balancing is nice!
I agree it helps but it won't make a square into a circle. That said, I have10 ply tires on a light truck which doesn't help. Toyo AT3's for me next time.
What I was getting at is that is how to find good round tires.
LS had to replace 6 of the 4 tires on my wifes car a few years ago because they couldnt get rid of the vibration because of out of round. Finally had them put some Michelens on. Perfect immediately.
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I can't relate to the diesel part, but the best tires I've ever run on my Tundra crewmax are Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX's. They're a good all around tire not being too loud on dry pavement and when on compact snow and ice they just grip. I'm about due for another set, I have 62k on my current set that will last me through summer.
Yup great tires. Best part is . Made in USA
I’ll 3rd the st maxx
I don’t get anywhere near 60 k on them but 1ton diesel trucks aren’t easy on tires
Great all weather tire, and a bonus that they are a good looking tire as well
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What is the difference about running tires on a diesel as opposed to a gas rig? :dunno:
Weight of the diesel engine makes a big difference. Always run 10 ply with a diesel.