Post by: BB90 on May 06, 2023, 10:24:06 PM
Post by: 3nails on May 06, 2023, 11:12:40 PM
Post by: bigmacc on May 07, 2023, 07:14:10 AM
Post by: Igor on May 07, 2023, 08:09:08 AM
We talked to a game warden and he told us that the winter kill was very bad this year.......one of the worst he has seen......not just deer, but high numbers of turkeys as well.
Post by: boneaddict on May 07, 2023, 10:30:04 AM
50% of 1000 is a far smaller number but is a sickening reminder of the state we are in. :'(
Post by: hunter399 on May 07, 2023, 10:49:31 AM
But on one winter cam I had out.
Lots of animals on cam untill Dec 10.
I believe a big snow drop happened about that time.
That's all I got. Make your own conclusions.
Post by: HereDuckyDucky on May 07, 2023, 10:57:18 AM
RW
Post by: MtnMuley on May 07, 2023, 05:44:40 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 23, 2023, 05:27:40 AM
50% of 100,000 is a number50% of 100 is more like the true number over there, but hey they are still offering special permits, and antlerless tags so everyone is in luck.
50% of 1000 is a far smaller number but is a sickening reminder of the state we are in. :'(
Post by: vandeman17 on May 23, 2023, 08:49:45 AM
I've put on a lot of miles this spring over here. I've yet to see a mule deer over 2k ft. Surprised to find a few whiteys at higher elevations than I've seen before. Not finding any winter kills in the mtns, but seeing virtually no deer sign either. The turkeys definitely got smacked pretty hard in several areas as well here. The mtn birds are very few and far between this year. This has to be an all time low on deer numbers in the county. On a bright note, I've seen more grouse than normal.
One of my clients who has an orchard in the methow said she consistently had 200+ mule deer in her orchard all winter long. The annihilated a lot of trees because the snow was so deep they were able to reach way high up into the trees
Post by: Henrydog on May 23, 2023, 08:57:54 AM
Post by: huntnphool on May 23, 2023, 11:43:12 PM
This winter was really not that hard. No one remembers the late 70s - early 80s. Or the late 80's early 90's. Much much harder winters. If there is a lack of deer its more than a normaly snow year.
+1
Post by: MtnMuley on May 24, 2023, 10:03:32 PM
This winter was really not that hard. No one remembers the late 70s - early 80s. Or the late 80's early 90's. Much much harder winters. If there is a lack of deer its more than a normaly snow year.
Was the majority of the winter ranged burned off then? Were there several active wolf packs then? Were there lions running free without hound seasons then? Were there homes spread throughout the entire winter range then? The answers are no. I'd say heavy early snows that didn't leave until later in the spring was fairly determental to the low deer populations as well. Also, was this winter a major factor in the low deer population here now? No. Did the winter we have help the population? No.
Post by: huntnphool on May 24, 2023, 10:15:12 PM
This winter was really not that hard. No one remembers the late 70s - early 80s. Or the late 80's early 90's. Much much harder winters. If there is a lack of deer its more than a normaly snow year.
Was the majority of the winter ranged burned off then? Were there several active wolf packs then? Were there lions running free without hound seasons then? Were there homes spread throughout the entire winter range then? The answers are no. I'd say heavy early snows that didn't leave until later in the spring was fairly determental to the low deer populations as well. Also, was this winter a major factor in the low deer population here now? No. Did the winter we have help the population? No.
Wow, so negative! :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Post by: Henrydog on May 25, 2023, 05:25:59 AM
This winter was really not that hard. No one remembers the late 70s - early 80s. Or the late 80's early 90's. Much much harder winters. If there is a lack of deer its more than a normaly snow year.
Was the majority of the winter ranged burned off then? Were there several active wolf packs then? Were there lions running free without hound seasons then? Were there homes spread throughout the entire winter range then? The answers are no. I'd say heavy early snows that didn't leave until later in the spring was fairly determental to the low deer populations as well. Also, was this winter a major factor in the low deer population here now? No. Did the winter we have help the population? No.
Exactly my point, then we agree. Seattle spreading East and the Wolves/Cougars have more to do with.
Post by: Mtnwalker on May 25, 2023, 08:43:02 AM
This winter was really not that hard. No one remembers the late 70s - early 80s. Or the late 80's early 90's. Much much harder winters. If there is a lack of deer its more than a normaly snow year.
Was the majority of the winter ranged burned off then? Were there several active wolf packs then? Were there lions running free without hound seasons then? Were there homes spread throughout the entire winter range then? The answers are no. I'd say heavy early snows that didn't leave until later in the spring was fairly determental to the low deer populations as well. Also, was this winter a major factor in the low deer population here now? No. Did the winter we have help the population? No.
Exactly my point, then we agree. Seattle spreading East and the Wolves/Cougars have more to do with.
I couldn't help but laugh at the spandex and Patagonia crowd during my hunt this year, constantly mean-mugging me when I'd go to the store or whatever in my hunting clothes. Pretty clear a lot of them didn't like us mean ol' hunters killing deer in their vacation home sanctuary, as they gobble up the winter range with their Air BnB's
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 25, 2023, 09:11:45 AM
Post by: phildobaggins on May 25, 2023, 09:27:38 AM