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Other Activities => Trapping => Topic started by: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 12:06:53 PM

Title: Wow now they want our help 😡
Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 12:06:53 PM: Got this email today, I will NOT be participating
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Post by: Ridgeratt on June 01, 2023, 12:10:06 PM: Lorna Smith teaching the class?

There is a trapper who lives in Winthrop, but not sure he would participate.
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Post by: pickardjw on June 01, 2023, 12:14:05 PM: Do you have to get the beaver's consent first?
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Post by: Special T on June 01, 2023, 12:21:19 PM: This goes along with with Rowland attempt to end beaver trapping in this state. Something like 90% of beaver translocated by the WDFW were killed by cougars.
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Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 12:23:44 PM: I encourage all wco trappers to Not be part of this
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Post by: UrbanTrapper on June 01, 2023, 02:39:43 PM: I too am suspicious of the Methow Beaver Project but how is this certification not a good thing for WCOs ? West-side WCOs already have some customers who would pay extra for beaver to be relocated.
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Post by: timberfaller on June 01, 2023, 05:36:07 PM: I've found that 2800 fps helps relocate them better!!
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Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 05:44:31 PM: Quote from: UrbanTrapper on June 01, 2023, 02:39:43 PM
I too am suspicious of the Methow Beaver Project but how is this certification not a good thing for WCOs ? West-side WCOs already have some customers who would pay extra for beaver to be relocated.
they’re the ones spearheading to outlaw beaver trapping on public land
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Post by: UrbanTrapper on June 01, 2023, 06:02:28 PM: Quote from: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 05:44:31 PM
Quote from: UrbanTrapper on June 01, 2023, 02:39:43 PM
I too am suspicious of the Methow Beaver Project but how is this certification not a good thing for WCOs ? West-side WCOs already have some customers who would pay extra for beaver to be relocated.
they’re the ones spearheading to outlaw beaver trapping on public land
You are probably right about them but, again, how is getting certified to transport and relocate beaver a bad thing ?
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Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 06:27:59 PM: Me personally will not help with this as they are ( beavers northwest and the the methow beaver project are lead by the very same people that has harassed our fellow trappers in Winthrop and are pushing to make it illegal to trap them on public SOOOOO they can kick rocks wearing flip flops
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Post by: Jake Dogfish on June 01, 2023, 06:42:51 PM: Quote from: JakeLand on June 01, 2023, 06:27:59 PM
Me personally will not help with this as they are ( beavers northwest and the the methow beaver project are lead by the very same people that has harassed our fellow trappers in Winthrop and are pushing to make it illegal to trap them on public SOOOOO they can kick rocks wearing flip flops
:yeah:
Ending beaver trapping is definitely on their agenda.
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Post by: Cougartail on June 01, 2023, 06:46:41 PM: I already relocate. To the bait pile. :chuckle:
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Post by: CarbonHunter on June 01, 2023, 06:56:32 PM: I would encourage trappers to relocate beavers to streams inside the city limits of liberal city’s and developments near Seattle. When they start using the poles holding up their internet connections to make a dam we can all step in and remind them not to interfere with wild animals in their habitat :chuckle:
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Post by: Special T on June 01, 2023, 09:17:50 PM: Quote from: CarbonHunter on June 01, 2023, 06:56:32 PM
I would encourage trappers to relocate beavers to streams inside the city limits of liberal city’s and developments near Seattle. When they start using the poles holding up their internet connections to make a dam we can all step in and remind them not to interfere with wild animals in their habitat :chuckle:
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Post by: Trapper John on June 03, 2023, 06:58:29 PM: Wait :yike: Whaaaaaaat Ya got the same email.

Didn't the department or should I say in the WCO classes that you are supposed to "KILL Everything"
Now they want us to "Save Them" :cryriver:

They're going to "TRAIN US" ................ OMG ................ pleas someone stop me from laughing :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
JC :ACRY:
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Post by: Humptulips on June 03, 2023, 08:11:27 PM: Mixed feelings, Not happy with some of the people in the relocation business. On the other hand, if I were a little closer, I would probably go to see what is involved. I've never liked the idea of killing stuff in the summer so I don't see anything inherently evil in moving a beaver. Might surprise you how many guys have told me they used to do it before the government got involved and told them they couldn't. Now of course it is OK again with the required volumes of red tape applied.
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Post by: bugs n bones on June 04, 2023, 08:00:53 PM: Hell no !
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Post by: Cylvertip on June 04, 2023, 09:36:26 PM: I have thought about going. I am sure their "experts" will be sharing faulty info. That has been my experience with the limited interactions I have had. I though it could be entertaining to go shoot holes in there info, but would probably be more frustrating than anything. I am sure any downstream press would be accurate too....NOT!!!
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Post by: Humptulips on June 05, 2023, 09:05:17 AM: Someone should go and report on it. Even if you find yourself disagreeing with everything they say and do, knowing what they are doing is valuable.
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Post by: Cougartail on June 06, 2023, 08:20:21 PM: I know a guy who is thinking of going. He wants to find out where they will be relocating the beavers for next years beaver line. :chuckle:
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Post by: Cylvertip on June 07, 2023, 01:03:04 AM: I put in an RSVP for the Tulalip endeavor on the 13th.
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Post by: Trapper John on June 07, 2023, 01:40:04 PM: Oh looking at where they will hold "Their Class" it's all about the "Indians" relocating beaver not really you !
What they want from you are the Free Beaver.

I would go but I can see it's about the Indians and the Methow Valley people. It's not really about us/you.

My question would be "Just how many beavers are we/they going to relocate; one, 10, 100, 1,000, maybe more ????? at what number do you say STOP ?????
And why stop lets keep relocating to the "End of Time."

Plus where are they going to put "all" of them?
Where is "That "Perfect Habitat" that can hold "all of them" and who is going to profit $$$ :drool:$$$ :drool:$$$ :drool:$$$ from it? I'm pretty sure you can answer that one.

Just another of my two cents :twocents:
JC :hello:
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Post by: Norman89 on June 12, 2023, 10:43:15 AM: I just relocate into the crock pot or the smoker
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Post by: saylean on June 12, 2023, 10:47:43 AM: put them all on mercer island and surrounding suburbs
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Post by: Cylvertip on June 14, 2023, 07:14:02 PM: I did not make it to the Tulalip one as work got in the way.

I also dis not receive any confirmation on the RSVP I sent. I did put in the RSVP to notify me of future events. We will see.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on June 15, 2023, 10:30:52 AM: I believe that it's against state wildlife regulations to relocate trapped wild animals outside of WDFW relocation projects. Am I wrong?
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Post by: Cougartail on June 15, 2023, 11:10:22 AM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on June 15, 2023, 10:30:52 AM
I believe that it's against state wildlife regulations to relocate trapped wild animals outside of WDFW relocation projects. Am I wrong?

I'm not sure that's true but I was told they determine release areas. That may be their relocation projects?
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Post by: pianoman9701 on June 15, 2023, 01:33:59 PM: We'd trapped a raccoon in our backyard several years ago and called the Region 5 office to see where we should release it. They told us we couldn't release it and would need to put it down. Something to do with the possibility of spreading diseases. IDK. :dunno:
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Post by: JakeLand on June 16, 2023, 05:56:31 AM: All animals that are trapped because of being a nuisance MUST be euthanized on said property…. According to the law
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Post by: Humptulips on June 17, 2023, 11:56:17 PM: RCW.77.32.585 allows the Department to set up a program to relocate beaver, beaver only.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.32.585
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Post by: JakeLand on June 18, 2023, 06:23:22 AM: Did not know that ! Was told all nuisance animals must be euthanized on property regardless of species
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Post by: Cougartail on June 18, 2023, 06:48:10 AM: Quote from: JakeLand on June 18, 2023, 06:23:22 AM
Did not know that ! Was told all nuisance animals must be euthanized on property regardless of species

The class I took said they'd look the other way if you would remove the animal and euthanize it elsewhere.

Operating in the grey area isn't my thing so I only do select jobs outside the city limits now.

Back in the day we had a lot more options. Not enough money in it around here to buy the CO2 equipment.