Post by: time2hunt on June 21, 2023, 11:58:41 AM
. 52 mains 30 inch mass and 20 inch G1-G5 per side puts you at the magical 400 mark.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: NWWA Hunter on June 21, 2023, 12:05:00 PM
We beat up the what makes a big buck thread! So let’s move on over to elk. I know a lot of people have there methods but it take a lot of time to master it. I usually run out of fingers and toesI passed one of those once
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Post by: Rainier10 on June 21, 2023, 12:07:09 PM
You can get to 350 with a typical six. Above that to 370 can still be done with a typical six but after that you really need good mass and extra points.
And 400 is a really special bull. Most would be thrilled with 320-350. 350 is what I consider a pretty good bull, up to 375 is really good and after that it’s just freaking big!
Post by: time2hunt on June 21, 2023, 12:14:45 PM
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Post by: Rainier10 on June 21, 2023, 12:31:14 PM
More points make up for shortcomings.
I think mass is the most difficult to judge for me.
In the colockum thirds are short typically. It has to be a genetic thing but it could be a good thing as well. Maybe when thirds are coming in they are transitioning to different food at a different elevation. :dunno: I just know small thirds are a thing in 328.
I will say after looking at lots of bulls over the years I can get close on the net score most of the time but every time I see a freaking big bull that’s exactly what it is, freaking big.
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on June 21, 2023, 12:31:34 PM
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Post by: Tbar on June 21, 2023, 01:17:15 PM
More like you passed one that dwarf those numbers!We beat up the what makes a big buck thread! So let’s move on over to elk. I know a lot of people have there methods but it take a lot of time to master it. I usually run out of fingers and toesI passed one of those once
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Post by: Tbar on June 21, 2023, 01:23:53 PM
Big G4’s are a must for a typical 6 to be big but really every point has to be big.:yeah:
More points make up for shortcomings.
I think mass is the most difficult to judge for me.
In the colockum thirds are short typically. It has to be a genetic thing but it could be a good thing as well. Maybe when thirds are coming in they are transitioning to different food at a different elevation. :dunno: I just know small thirds are a thing in 328.
I will say after looking at lots of bulls over the years I can get close on the net score most of the time but every time I see a freaking big bull that’s exactly what it is, freaking big.
Short thirds are prominent in many areas. I am usually looking for the 300 inch mark on the westside. In my areas it gets tough to field judge due to vegetation. That said there are several guidelines for the 300 inch mark that make it easier for me. Also agree with when you see a true giant, it's not hard to decide. The few giants I've been around have grown on the ground vs shrunk. :twocents:
Post by: Huckleberry on June 21, 2023, 01:29:06 PM
Now will someone please show me a sheep picture I might find interesting.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on June 21, 2023, 01:44:47 PM
Post by: kentrek on June 21, 2023, 02:43:15 PM
280-320 rockies general tags
North of 5 years of age is pretty cool on otc tags
Quality tags might get you north of these numbers..body size will mess with score a bunch but I want the thing to look twice the size of the other elk, big ol gut, chest and neck
Post by: johnbmyersii on June 21, 2023, 03:19:57 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 21, 2023, 03:21:44 PM
Main beam length and tine length more than mass to me. Character is a big plus and this bull checks the boxes for me
How long are the main beams on that bull?
Post by: Rainier10 on June 21, 2023, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: johnbmyersii on June 21, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
Main beam length and tine length more than mass to me. Character is a big plus and this bull checks the boxes for me
How long are the main beams on that bull?
Wouldn't have a clue. If I can someday draw a bull tag I'll let you know haha
Post by: Farmer72 on June 21, 2023, 06:07:16 PM
The mains on this one are 56-3/8 and 55-4/8.
Post by: yogru on June 21, 2023, 06:36:45 PM
In the colockum thirds are short typically. It has to be a genetic thing but it could be a good thing as well. Maybe when thirds are coming in they are transitioning to different food at a different elevation. :dunno: I just know small thirds are a thing in 328.
I will say after looking at lots of bulls over the years I can get close on the net score most of the time but every time I see a freaking big bull that’s exactly what it is, freaking big.
I'm paranoid about thirds. Killed athe bull in my profile pic in the Wasatch over in Utah and the thing was a pig.....but those short stubby thirds just make me cringe a little when I look at it. Now, after the first "overall" look on any set of horns, I'm zeroing in on those damned thirds first thing.
Post by: Ricochet on June 21, 2023, 07:31:53 PM
Post by: yogru on June 21, 2023, 08:17:14 PM
If you want big thirds, this guy is going to be a pig when he grows up.
Um yes, I'll take one of those please! :o
Post by: jackelope on June 21, 2023, 08:33:55 PM
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on June 21, 2023, 08:57:46 PM
Big bulls are the leaders of the pack :chuckle:Wowza :yike:
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Post by: time2hunt on June 21, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
This is what great genetic and no hunting will produce in Washington. These are colockum genetic bulls that found sanctuary from predator at Hanford.
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Post by: huntnnw on June 21, 2023, 09:44:26 PM
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Post by: Buckjunkie on June 21, 2023, 10:03:23 PM
A great bull has mass, beam and time length. If it has all three, it will score well. Rocky Mtn. Bulls start looking good at 320, and even better when they score 340-350. By the time you hit 370, they become giants. You don’t need to know how to score to recognize a big bull, but if a bull is truly big, it will score a bunch.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on June 21, 2023, 10:18:50 PM
Mass can make things look smaller.What’s the verdict? Him a couple years before you got him?
The mains on this one are 56-3/8 and 55-4/8.
Post by: huntnnw on June 21, 2023, 11:51:52 PM
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Post by: Falcon on June 22, 2023, 08:14:12 AM
Age, mass and character. Good time length and some extra points are icing on the cake. Score is a fun number to play with but I want the WOW factor. If your initial thought on a quality tag is more along the lines of “I should be shooting now”…enough said. A quality tag deserves a quality animal. Inches is only part of the equation. This was my one shot at a big coastal Rosie and until this year my only quality tag. Do they get better, absolutely…I’ve just never seen it in person and wasn't going to look.
Now will someone please show me a sheep picture I might find interesting.
:yeah:
Huckleberry
Great looking Roosevelt. I agree that mass is the coolest thing to me. I also love the crowning on your bull. Spectacular.
You said you want to see a sheep. Here is my one and only from the Alaska Range way back in 07. I was totally lucky to get this
Guy on opening day.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on June 22, 2023, 08:39:01 AM
When I am discussing big bulls with folks in general and talk of big bulls its any rocky over 300 and any rosie that is mature. My personal definition is a jet black antlered 8x9 with ivory tips, mass, and solid tine length on what may or may not have been short mains. A body like an angus bull on steroids.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 22, 2023, 08:41:58 AM
Thank you Falcon! You finally made an elk thread interesting 😍Age, mass and character. Good time length and some extra points are icing on the cake. Score is a fun number to play with but I want the WOW factor. If your initial thought on a quality tag is more along the lines of “I should be shooting now”…enough said. A quality tag deserves a quality animal. Inches is only part of the equation. This was my one shot at a big coastal Rosie and until this year my only quality tag. Do they get better, absolutely…I’ve just never seen it in person and wasn't going to look.
Now will someone please show me a sheep picture I might find interesting.
:yeah:
Huckleberry
Great looking Roosevelt. I agree that mass is the coolest thing to me. I also love the crowning on your bull. Spectacular.
You said you want to see a sheep. Here is my one and only from the Alaska Range way back in 07. I was totally lucky to get this
Guy on opening day.
Post by: Falcon on June 22, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Age, mass and character. Good time length and some extra points are icing on the cake. Score is a fun number to play with but I want the WOW factor. If your initial thought on a quality tag is more along the lines of “I should be shooting now”…enough said. A quality tag deserves a quality animal. Inches is only part of the equation. This was my one shot at a big coastal Rosie and until this year my only quality tag. Do they get better, absolutely…I’ve just never seen it in person and wasn't going to look.Thank you Falcon! You finally made an elk thread interesting 😍
Now will someone please show me a sheep picture I might find interesting.
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Great looking Roosevelt. I agree that mass is the coolest thing to me. I also love the crowning on your bull. Spectacular.
You said you want to see a sheep. Here is my one and only from the Alaska Range way back in 07. I was totally lucky to get this
Guy on opening day.
Karl: From one sheep hunter to another.........There's sheep, and than everthing else :chuckle:
Post by: Caveman123 on June 22, 2023, 06:30:08 PM
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Post by: time2hunt on June 22, 2023, 07:08:09 PM
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Post by: jackelope on June 22, 2023, 10:15:28 PM
52” and 53” main beams. 399 and change.
Post by: 2MANY on June 22, 2023, 10:18:32 PM
Redneck class dismissed.
Post by: dagon on June 23, 2023, 06:57:36 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 23, 2023, 07:49:19 AM
Any bull that still needs to be packed out. :chuckle:
They're all big when they're on your back :chuckle:
Post by: High Climber on June 23, 2023, 09:01:17 AM
Any bull that still needs to be packed out. :chuckle:
Truth!
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Post by: scoutdog346 on July 18, 2023, 06:18:11 AM
We beat up the what makes a big buck thread! So let’s move on over to elk. I know a lot of people have there methods but it take a lot of time to master it. I usually run out of fingers and toes
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Post by: trophyhunt on July 18, 2023, 06:27:38 AM
For me a big bull is that 300-330 range, great bull 330-360, over 360 is a giant. But all bulls are good bull. I’m stoked to kill a 100” bull because regardless of horn size there’s still a ton of trophy meet to carry out. The same can’t be said for a 40” deer. Someone once said elk are for filling the freezer. Deer are for killing big ol bucks.I agree here!