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Title: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on August 25, 2023, 07:59:25 AM
 There will be more Regulating to come as our wildlife department strays from its reason to even exist one our dime (Dollars) as public opinion will be the master of their policies....

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
August 24, 2023
Media contact: Jennifer Becar, 564-669-0850

WDFW opens public comment period for proposed western gray squirrel uplisting
OLYMPIA – The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has filed a proposed rule to change the state listing status of the western gray squirrel from “threatened” to “endangered” based on the recommendation and information summarized in a recent periodic status review and public comments received on the document. The public is invited to submit comments about the proposed rule change through Oct. 2.

The proposal, if adopted, reclassifies the western gray squirrel as a Washington state endangered species, communicating a higher level of conservation concern for the species, their conservation needs, and recovery actions with partners and the public. The uplisting would also bring an increased penalty for unlawfully harming or killing a western gray squirrel, per state rule.

A copy of the rule making proposal is available on WDFW’s website. The comment period is open through Oct. 2, and the public can submit comments via web form, by email, or by phone (855-925-2801, project code 6483). The public may also mail written comments to Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife ATTN: Wildlife Program, PO Box 43200, Olympia, WA 98504.

The Fish and Wildlife Commission will accept in-person and virtual public comments on the proposed rule change at a public hearing during their Sept. 28-30 meeting in Yakima. Those interested in providing comments during the meeting should pre-register online. Information on how to pre-register will be made available on the Commission Meeting webpage. A decision is tentatively scheduled for the October 2023 meeting.

All members of the public are invited to share their perspectives and participate in WDFW public feedback opportunities regardless of race, color, sex, age, national origin, language proficiency, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity and/or expression, status as a veteran, or basis of disability.

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife works to preserve, protect, and perpetuate fish, wildlife, and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: Angry Perch on August 25, 2023, 09:12:43 AM
There will be more Regulating to come as our wildlife department strays from its reason to even exist one our dime (Dollars) as public opinion will be the master of their policies....

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
August 24, 2023
Media contact: Jennifer Becar, 564-669-0850

WDFW opens public comment period for proposed western gray squirrel uplisting
OLYMPIA – The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has filed a proposed rule to change the state listing status of the western gray squirrel from “threatened” to “endangered” based on the recommendation and information summarized in a recent periodic status review and public comments received on the document. The public is invited to submit comments about the proposed rule change through Oct. 2.

The proposal, if adopted, reclassifies the western gray squirrel as a Washington state endangered species, communicating a higher level of conservation concern for the species, their conservation needs, and recovery actions with partners and the public. The uplisting would also bring an increased penalty for unlawfully harming or killing a western gray squirrel, per state rule.

A copy of the rule making proposal is available on WDFW’s website. The comment period is open through Oct. 2, and the public can submit comments via web form, by email, or by phone (855-925-2801, project code 6483). The public may also mail written comments to Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife ATTN: Wildlife Program, PO Box 43200, Olympia, WA 98504.

The Fish and Wildlife Commission will accept in-person and virtual public comments on the proposed rule change at a public hearing during their Sept. 28-30 meeting in Yakima. Those interested in providing comments during the meeting should pre-register online. Information on how to pre-register will be made available on the Commission Meeting webpage. A decision is tentatively scheduled for the October 2023 meeting.

All members of the public are invited to share their perspectives and participate in WDFW public feedback opportunities regardless of race, color, sex, age, national origin, language proficiency, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity and/or expression, status as a veteran, or basis of disability.

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife works to preserve, protect, and perpetuate fish, wildlife, and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities.

What is the concern with this?
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 25, 2023, 09:16:54 AM
I don't see a problem. You can't hunt them now and the eastern grey squirrels are pushing them out. Shoot the easterns. They fricassee great. Chicken of the trees.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: 85yota on August 25, 2023, 09:19:40 AM
The worry is if they classify it as endangered, potentially  they could use the new classification to affect public recreation. No off leash dogs, no public access, set up sanctuary zones where people can't remove sheds cause squirrels chew them.. etc
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on August 25, 2023, 09:25:33 AM
The worry is if they classify it as endangered, potentially  they could use the new classification to affect public recreation. No off leash dogs, no public access, set up sanctuary zones where people can't remove sheds cause squirrels chew them.. etc
:yeah: Finally, and oh yes they will!
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 25, 2023, 09:39:27 AM
With this commission, you have a valid concern about the peripheral effects.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: buckfvr on August 25, 2023, 10:14:58 AM
Curtail logging and development.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: Humptulips on August 25, 2023, 10:48:22 AM
Endangered designation brings the same problems people are experiencing with Mazama gophers. Want to develop your property in certain areas you will have to survey your property for potential habitat as well as squirrels. Probably never let you cut down an oak tree again.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: GWP on August 25, 2023, 10:49:51 AM
The worry is if they classify it as endangered, potentially  they could use the new classification to affect public recreation. No off leash dogs, no public access, set up sanctuary zones where people can't remove sheds cause squirrels chew them.. etc

This. With the group in there now you ALWAYS need to be looking at the backdoor plan.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: ducks4days on August 25, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
The worry is if they classify it as endangered, potentially  they could use the new classification to affect public recreation. No off leash dogs, no public access, set up sanctuary zones where people can't remove sheds cause squirrels chew them.. etc

This. With the group in there now you ALWAYS need to be looking at the backdoor plan.

I wouldnt be surprised if they used this to ban hunting invasive eastern gray squirrels state wide for fear of confusing the two. Nevermind that they are easy to tell apart, or that the western's range has been reduced to basically 2 areas. Its about the ban and not about the species.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: MeepDog on August 25, 2023, 04:05:41 PM
I think a people in the Klickitat area could confuse the threatened native gray squirrel with the invasive gray diggers. It's a very easy mistake to make and they occupy much of the same territory. If you ask any person in the county about gray diggers, the conversation will be about shooting as many as possible. The gray squirrels live in the same scrub oaks eating the same acorns. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they're getting shot by mistake.
Title: Re: Gray Squirrels....
Post by: Platensek-po on August 25, 2023, 04:54:14 PM
I think a people in the Klickitat area could confuse the threatened native gray squirrel with the invasive gray diggers. It's a very easy mistake to make and they occupy much of the same territory. If you ask any person in the county about gray diggers, the conversation will be about shooting as many as possible. The gray squirrels live in the same scrub oaks eating the same acorns. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they're getting shot by mistake.

If someone is confusing gray squirrels and grey diggers they need their eyes checked. They look absolutely nothing alike.
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