Post by: Born2late on August 27, 2023, 05:46:38 PM
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
Edited: apparently I need the classes to better identify the fish 😳
Post by: full choke on August 27, 2023, 06:03:22 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on August 27, 2023, 06:11:23 PM
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.No pic?
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
Post by: wadu1 on August 27, 2023, 06:30:22 PM
Never got a response from them, go figure.
Post by: Gettin Birdie on August 27, 2023, 07:21:40 PM
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
I worked for WDFW a few years ago, and it was disturbing/disgusting. Most are college students or recent graduates just looking for a job, not even interested in biology, fish, wildlife or hunting. Many are anti-hunting, anti-guns, etc. So many idiots, more than normal folk, it was unbelievable to me. That is what made my mind up to leave the state, as I was seasonal perm, but could have got full year perm easily. WA state don't care anymore my friend, sorry, she probably had never fished a day in her life, honestly. Sad state of affairs in WA, I love the state, its beautiful, but hunting and fishing are being overrun by morons and antis, the writing was on the wall. Keep up the fight though, all you can do, it was easy for me to leave, unlike many others.
Post by: Born2late on August 27, 2023, 07:35:48 PM
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.No pic?
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
Nope
Post by: Encore 280 on August 27, 2023, 07:51:09 PM
Post by: storyteller on August 27, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on August 27, 2023, 08:26:28 PM
This sounds like a fishing trip that I had a few weeks ago, I posted the pic on FB on area 1-13 fishing, we marked it on card as a silver. It sounds like the same lady, our fish was getting dark, very slimy, caught down past Richmond Beach heading toward Shilshole. She showed us why she called it a sockeye but also took a picture to show her boss. The tongue was white, no teeth to speak of. After looking it over and researching some more, I think she is right. First sockeye we ever ran across in the salt , or at least that I know of. It was 7.09 pound
I would have to see a picture of the actual fish to make a judgement call
Post by: storyteller on August 27, 2023, 08:48:00 PM
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on August 28, 2023, 12:50:51 AM
Hard to see tail in that photo but other than that, looks like a sockeye.
Post by: Born2late on August 28, 2023, 05:57:25 AM
This sounds like a fishing trip that I had a few weeks ago, I posted the pic on FB on area 1-13 fishing, we marked it on card as a silver. It sounds like the same lady, our fish was getting dark, very slimy, caught down past Richmond Beach heading toward Shilshole. She showed us why she called it a sockeye but also took a picture to show her boss. The tongue was white, no teeth to speak of. After looking it over and researching some more, I think she is right. First sockeye we ever ran across in the salt , or at least that I know of. It was 7.09 poundWell she might have been right on our fish.
Looking at the picture ours was similar I think.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,280622.0.html
This picture of his silver has a dark tail that has no silver in it either.
So I don’t know.
Post by: ducks4days on August 28, 2023, 08:23:33 AM
Post by: 2MANY on August 28, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on August 28, 2023, 04:58:13 PM
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook. :dunno:Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend. Said they average the count . Another way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish released goes against the harvest quota .
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 28, 2023, 05:07:17 PM
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook. :dunno:Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend. Said they average the count . Another way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish released goes against the harvest quota .
This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on August 28, 2023, 05:07:54 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 28, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
The 3 at sekiu weren't even walking the docks or getting out of their tent.
I think all they were doing were counting boats and people.
Post by: huntandjeep on August 28, 2023, 06:18:07 PM
Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook. :dunno:Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend. Said they average the count . Another way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish released goes against the harvest quota .
This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 28, 2023, 06:38:27 PM
Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook. :dunno:Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend. Said they average the count . Another way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish released goes against the harvest quota .
This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
That is policy with our group. It probably doesn’t matter though.
Post by: huntandjeep on August 28, 2023, 07:23:32 PM
Ours also . They are probably amazed that all we ever catch are keepers :chuckle:Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook. :dunno:Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend. Said they average the count . Another way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish released goes against the harvest quota .
This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
That is policy with our group. It probably doesn’t matter though.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on August 29, 2023, 06:50:30 AM
The 3 at sekiu weren't even walking the docks or getting out of their tent.
We netted around 75-85 fish on swiftsure to get 5 limits on Aug 5th. Granted around half were pinks. We kept a few to fill the limit when it was time to go.
Post by: bullcanyon on August 29, 2023, 10:00:35 AM