Post by: royalhntr on October 30, 2023, 07:58:13 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/beaver-family-that-moved-into-seattles-carkeek-park-may-complicate-salmon-spawning-journey/
Post by: Trapper John on October 31, 2023, 01:20:21 PM
You know what's funny about that area, those beaver have been there a long time.
And if my memory :chuckle: is correct, it tells me that I trapped that same area for beaver years ago when I had my ADC Business.
Those beaver are coming up out of Lake Washington and there is a pile and a half of them in lake Washington.
Saying that, I think they should leave those beaver alone (because you will never trap all the beaver out of the lake) the salmon will do just fine.
JC :hello:
Post by: ducks4days on October 31, 2023, 01:36:43 PM
Post by: npaull on October 31, 2023, 01:54:11 PM
Post by: Trapper John on October 31, 2023, 04:25:01 PM
The idea that beaver stop salmon is laughable. Every friggin salmon stream in the world has or has had beaver in it. Every. Single. One. It's a non-issue.
:yeah:
Post by: JakeLand on October 31, 2023, 04:34:21 PM
The idea that beaver stop salmon is laughable. Every friggin salmon stream in the world has or has had beaver in it. Every. Single. One. It's a non-issue.very true but the state will spend a $100,000 on devices that will fail !!
Post by: Mt.Beaver on November 01, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
Post by: timberfaller on November 01, 2023, 10:17:33 AM
Had a annual war on these pest!! Kept myself in lots of gun money! $50 a pop. They migrated in every fall, became a real pain in the back side!!
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 01, 2023, 10:21:37 AM
I was known as the beaver slayer in my younger years, but due to that pesky marriage I signed onto I will need to sit this one out.
:chuckle:
Post by: Cougartail on November 01, 2023, 12:26:10 PM
Trapping beavers and large predators do influence spawning. Larger and more established dams are more durable and harder to jump. Ridding the maintenence team helps spring washouts.
Human activities often benefit some wildlife regardless of what the "all natural crowd" thinks.
Even as poor a beaver trapper I was, I still can kill more beavers than any other predator.
Post by: Loup Loup on December 17, 2023, 11:06:15 AM
Several times, in my career, I was tasked with trapping out beavers whose dam blocked the upstream
Movement of adult salmon/steelhead. Spring Chinook, Coho, and Steelhead. In the smaller tributaries, the fish need a deep “jump pool” to get momentum to jump and clear the dam. If there’s no jump pool, or the downstream side of the dam is brushy, those fish are blocked.
Another thing guys. This article explains a number of reason why beaver need to be harvested/managed. This type of information is important to get out to people. Especially with this anti beaver trapping movement that’s going on now.
Come on guys. Take a breath and look at the big picture before you poo-poo an arrow in our quiver.
Post by: lewy on December 17, 2023, 08:43:51 PM
Post by: Cylvertip on January 05, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
I've personally witnessed on several occasions salmon failing to get over a dam, absolutely impassable.
Same here. Until you get a BIG rain event, those fish are stuck. The otter and coons love it though.
Just like the previous post stated that " every salmon stream has beaver to deal with" , every one of those streams are populated by salmon that decended from transient ancestors. Hell , there were no salmon in the Puget Sound area 10-15k years ago. There was probably a good amount of time they weren't in much of the Columbia system either. Their populations have ebbed and flowed through out time. It will continue to be that way.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 05, 2024, 11:59:15 AM
I've personally witnessed on several occasions salmon failing to get over a dam, absolutely impassable.Same. The water on the outlet was so shallow that the fish couldn't jump even if they wanted. Lots of bobcat and cougar tracks. At one dam, not fun to walk through due to all the sharp alder stakes all about a foot tall sticking up everywhere.
Post by: Humptulips on January 05, 2024, 04:32:00 PM
Same thing with all these culvert replacements they are doing. Been a bunch done on 101 and I have seen salmon above every one of the culverts with the exception of the culverts they're replacing that have no water in them most of the time.
Post by: JakeLand on January 05, 2024, 04:50:38 PM
Post by: Trapper John on January 05, 2024, 06:08:29 PM
Charge um to remove the dams too. Cha Ching, :drool: Cha Ching, :drool: Cha Ching, :drool:
:yeah: JC :chuckle:
Post by: Cylvertip on January 21, 2024, 10:03:10 PM