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Title: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: follow maggie on December 23, 2023, 05:08:26 AM: Wow- Cummins is paying the feds a fine of $1.6B for cheating on the emissions of the engines in Ram trucks, nearly a million of them since 2013. The same thing as Volkswagen & the Ecodiesel hey used to use in the 1500s & jeeps. Ram wasn’t involved in it but they’re the ones who’ll have to do the recall that’s coming. Volkswagen had to buy tons of cars back & the vehicles with he ecodiesel were almost unusable after the recall. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Definitely will be going to court with Ram.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/cummins-take-about-204-bln-charge-fourth-quarter-2023-12-22/?ref=upstract.com
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: cem3434 on December 23, 2023, 08:14:13 AM: Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 23, 2023, 08:31:36 AM: Quote from: cem3434 on December 23, 2023, 08:14:13 AM
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 23, 2023, 09:03:12 AM: Quote from: Duckslayer89 on December 23, 2023, 08:31:36 AM
Quote from: cem3434 on December 23, 2023, 08:14:13 AM
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong

You're right, I can't remember the main manufacturer but it wasn't Cummins and a few batches were Maserati.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: timberfaller on December 23, 2023, 09:25:41 AM: Just another example of Federal regs doing harm to everyone!! Control Control Control is all it is!! Wake up people!!

Cummin's has been fined in the Billions for "supposedly" doing the same thing VW got nailed with! Polluting the air causing climate change!! Ya can't fix stupid, especially if there is taxes/fines to be had!!! :bash:
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: follow maggie on December 23, 2023, 09:50:17 AM: The ecodiesel was an Italian engine. I saw the reference to it on a different news piece. I don’t remember which years of them were affected
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: HntnFsh on December 23, 2023, 10:53:27 AM: Fiat?
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: buglebuster on December 23, 2023, 01:44:00 PM: What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves :chuckle:
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: timberfaller on December 23, 2023, 01:54:50 PM: "What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves" :chuckle:

According to the article I read, its still Cummin's fault! Typical government stooge way of thinking!
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 23, 2023, 01:57:15 PM: Had a few ecodiesels - that lawsuit was a couple years back.

Looks like it followed all the diesel makers - what a crock!
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: hunter399 on December 23, 2023, 05:02:28 PM: Look at the warm weather we are having.
How dare you have a warm winter.
Sure the animals are loving this climate change right now.

How dare you!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: L8NITE on December 23, 2023, 05:24:43 PM: Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: hunter399 on December 23, 2023, 07:59:57 PM: Quote from: L8NITE on December 23, 2023, 05:24:43 PM
Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
I think she already has..... lol :chuckle:
#1 stake holder right there.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: Lucky Eric on December 23, 2023, 08:52:44 PM: My '18 is on the recall list. I believe it's just the HO engines but not 100% sure. I doubt I'll be in a hurry to let Ram touch it. Truck runs just fine as is.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: boneaddict on December 23, 2023, 08:56:15 PM: There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: jackelope on December 23, 2023, 10:10:01 PM: The 3.0 Ram Ecodiesel was built by VM Motori.
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: Fastass350 on December 25, 2023, 10:22:10 AM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 23, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

I was thinking exactly that. None of my trucks are but none of them are new enough to have any emissions trash in them 👍
Title: Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 25, 2023, 01:37:27 PM: Quote from: Fastass350 on December 25, 2023, 10:22:10 AM
Quote from: boneaddict on December 23, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

I was thinking exactly that. None of my trucks are but none of them are new enough to have any emissions trash in them 👍
The eco friendly part is that they havent had to make a new one to replace it! See! You are both eco greenies! :chuckle: