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Other Hunting => Bird Dogs => Topic started by: dustysags on January 21, 2024, 03:59:17 PM
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My hunting dog is 10.5 years old lab. Still hunts hard and chases big geese and ducks all day but then after the hunt he’s been getting really sore and I wanna help him out with some pain pills after the big hunts. I called a vet and they said 70$ for visit then do bloodwork for $250. Then pills look like 1.50$ a pill. Is that what I should expect to pay for just some basic pain killers for my dog. I’ve read human pain pills are bad for dogs organs. Just wondering if anyone has any other info before I spend 500$ for some ibuprofen for some sore legs.
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Always gave old dogs an aspirin if needed
I’d think you’d be ok
But I’m no vet
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Ever consider CBD ?
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Look for Carprofen. It's not that expensive. Looks like Chewy has it for down around .50-.70 a pill. Other meds like aspirin and acetaminophen can be toxic after long periods of taking it.
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Ever consider CBD ?
:yeah: I give my Weiner dog cbd oil,he is 14 but aches and pains don't slow him down.
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Duralactin can be affective for general relief. It is milk based and easy on the dog. This what I would start with if not chasing something specific.
https://www.duralactin.com/where-to-buy/
https://www.amazon.com/Duralactin-Tablets-1000mg-Vanilla-Flavor/dp/B001TLKXLA
Read up on Gabapentin.
https://www.petmd.com/dog/care/gabapentin-dogs-what-you-need-know
Be carefull with Rymadyl. It can be pretty hard on the stomach.
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Be careful with aspirin. Bad reactions are common.
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Be careful with aspirin. Bad reactions are common.
This. I have a prescription from my vet that I keep and give my 11 year old hunting dog if she is stoved up. Half tablet after the hunt and she is good to go
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Fair winds cbd purchased at the weed store. I've tried many and used it for my old chessie. Best stuff better than dog anti-inflammatory meds
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Look for Carprofen. It's not that expensive. Looks like Chewy has it for down around .50-.70 a pill. Other meds like aspirin and acetaminophen can be toxic after long periods of taking it.
:yeah: Carprofen worked best for our goldens with sore joints
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My 9yo pointer will become stiff on the ride home. His diet is heavy with homemade pumpkin puree. I put away about 200lbs every fall. An aspirin and warm shower and he is ready the next day, all season. Used this routine for my prior wirehair and got 15 solid seasons out of him.
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My vet says 1 325 asprin as needed for aches and pains.
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I am learning. My almoat 9 year old lab has some.hurting hips. Cosiquin, now on a pet nsaid and doc has him on adequan. 8 shot series. One thing doc told me at the point of arthitis is just making things comfortable. So adding things to find a good even keel is what happens. The CDB thing I kind of like that. I use some of the calming stuff on him during fireworks
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My vet prescribed Meloxicam for my old dog. She did bloodwork before and again after thirty days to make sure he was tolerating it. It made a huge improvement in his comfort level and what he is able to do.
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My vet prescribed Meloxicam for my old dog. She did bloodwork before and again after thirty days to make sure he was tolerating it. It made a huge improvement in his comfort level and what he is able to do.
Yup that is what hunter is on.
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My lab is bout same age.
She bounces 4 ft in the air . I noticed she stopped and every once in awhile would cry like you were knifing her for no reason.
Off to the vet, full check up found nothing.
Vet suggested this, two tablets a day with food. Worked great, she has not showed any signs of pain since.
Half price at Costco instead of vet.
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Duralactin can be affective for general relief. It is milk based and easy on the dog. This what I would start with if not chasing something specific.
https://www.duralactin.com/where-to-buy/
https://www.amazon.com/Duralactin-Tablets-1000mg-Vanilla-Flavor/dp/B001TLKXLA
Read up on Gabapentin.
https://www.petmd.com/dog/care/gabapentin-dogs-what-you-need-know
Be carefull with Rymadyl. It can be pretty hard on the stomach.
If you like your dog, don’t use Rymadyl. Not sure why vets even still prescribe that crap. It killed my dog, and I know of several others it has as well. Their organs literally shut down.
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Our vet said just buy the human consumption Glucosamine and Chondroitin at Costco. It is way cheaper than the dog version and our old Lab eats it just the same.
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When meds are required, I suggest PetMeds.com. The prices charged at the vet are crazy. Ridiculous. Some vets are good about PetMeds.com, some less. But you save a heap (even after shipping), and pretty quick shipping.
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I remember back in the 60's my folks would get a liquid bi-product of the pulp mills but I don't know where the got it from, vet or ??? but it was called DSMO or DMSO. Was meant for horses I guess but worked on the little guys too. They rubbed it on the dogs hind quarters, seemed to help. Don't know if the stuff is still available or not. Just thought I'd throw that in there.
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Mmm, DMSO, the garlic salve. Careful with it as it is controversial. Unwanted toxins can pass the skin barrier with it other than the desired topical.
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I don't know anything about side affects other than the dogs felt better after it was applied. This stuff was a liquid, not salve.
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Ever consider CBD ?
:yeah: I give my Weiner dog cbd oil,he is 14 but aches and pains don't slow him down.
We lost a dog last year that probably should have been put down 2 years prior due to quality of life. My wife wasnt convinced. Aside from blindness and pancreatitis, arthritis made day-to-day pretty painful. I'll try to dig up exactly what we used, but some CBD product we added to her food once a day made a night and day difference in how much her joints were impacted.
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I'm not a vet. and I'm not advising to do what I do with my own hunting dogs for short term pain relief.
1gm horse Bute tablet
Cut it in 4 even sections and use a 1/4 tablet
or Bute tablets for dogs.
Do your own research don't trust my uneducated writing.
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Here is a picture of what I used on my old chessapeak instead of rymidel. I twisted my knee once bad and took a couple of drops. Dog liked it but I don't think it tasted like bacon. Swelling went way down after use. Didn't have access to an ice pack.
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My vet prescribed Meloxicam for my old dog. She did bloodwork before and again after thirty days to make sure he was tolerating it. It made a huge improvement in his comfort level and what he is able to do.
The best thing about Meloxicam is you can take it too if you get all stove-up from a long day of hunting :tup:
Inexpensive and Fred Myers can fill if (for you and your dog).
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Here is a picture of what I used on my old chessapeak instead of rymidel. I twisted my knee once bad and took a couple of drops. Dog liked it but I don't think it tasted like bacon. Swelling went way down after use. Didn't have access to an ice pack.
CBD was federally legalized by the 2018 Farm Bill. You can buy CBD legally about anywhere. Fairwinds is an amazing brand and does make great products, but I would not purchase from a Wa state cannabis store as you’ll be paying the 40% excise tax. The industry has a 300% markup at retail to account for the state excise tax. The other major problem with some CBD brands is “under dosing” which means the 10mg of CBD in that dose does nothing. Studies show that dosage should be 2mg per 1lb body weight.
With that said, I have zero affiliation with the following company. By far it is one of the best values on the market. Buy CBD isolate and make your own products or buy the CBD coconut oil. https://futurecompounds.com/product/cbd-isolate/
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Here is a picture of what I used on my old chessapeak instead of rymidel. I twisted my knee once bad and took a couple of drops. Dog liked it but I don't think it tasted like bacon. Swelling went way down after use. Didn't have access to an ice pack.
CBD was federally legalized by the 2018 Farm Bill. You can buy CBD legally about anywhere. Fairwinds is an amazing brand and does make great products, but I would not purchase from a Wa state cannabis store as you’ll be paying the 40% excise tax. The industry has a 300% markup at retail to account for the state excise tax. The other major problem with some CBD brands is “under dosing” which means the 10mg of CBD in that dose does nothing. Studies show that dosage should be 2mg per 1lb body weight.
With that said, I have zero affiliation with the following company. By far it is one of the best values on the market. Buy CBD isolate and make your own products or buy the CBD coconut oil. https://futurecompounds.com/product/cbd-isolate/
Part of the reason I have used this brand is it has a very small amount of THC in it. 2% I belive everything I have read says this helps with absorption. I'm all for making your own concoctions and telling the state to pound sand... but when I was buying and adminerstering this it was less that $40 a bottle lasted over a month in the off season and a little less during hunting season, mind you in his older years he didn't hunt much or hard. I got several more years of a happy dog and it didn't destroy his liver or kidneys like other drugs seems to.
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Don't be confused by pain killers and supplements which may help prevent problems when used long term.
Most folks don't have performance dogs. Meaning, they sit all year then you go hunt and kick their asses. Nothing mentioned on this thread will help you dog with that problem. That is an owner problem.
If you sit and eat cheeseburgers for lunch all year then go opening day with my mountain goat hunting guide buddy you're gonna be a hot mess. Same for your dog.
Then, the other problems which arise are orthopedic. They need fixing. Separate issues.
Supplements are like taking vitamins when you've sprained your ankle. Not helping. Nsaids for dogs work. Usually used on older dogs aren't killing them the age and other issues unfortunately take their toll.
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Once a lab is ten, it is the owner's job to throttle back the activity. If your dog comes back all stoved up, then the outing was too long, and it's your fault. The dog doesn't know any better.
Meds aren't always the best way to go. We had a dog with a bad hock joint. She was only 2 years old when it started. Vet prescribed some meds for inflammation, which helped quite a bit. Problem was, the dog would run faster and harder until the hock swelled. Poor dog would be in pain for a couple days after that. We found it best to quit the meds and let the dog deal with the pain on her own. She favored the bad joint for the rest of her life, but didn't abuse herself quite as much. We gave her aspirin occasionally after that, and it worked out pretty good.
Our gal lived to be 17 years old. She quit hunting entirely at 12 or 13 because she would just get too stoved up. Spent the rest of her life by the fire. A dog will tell you if she's happy. If the tail quits wagging, you got a problem. :twocents:
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My hunting dog is 10.5 years old lab. Still hunts hard and chases big geese and ducks all day but then after the hunt he’s been getting really sore and I wanna help him out with some pain pills after the big hunts. I called a vet and they said 70$ for visit then do bloodwork for $250. Then pills look like 1.50$ a pill. Is that what I should expect to pay for just some basic pain killers for my dog. I’ve read human pain pills are bad for dogs organs. Just wondering if anyone has any other info before I spend 500$ for some ibuprofen for some sore legs.
I gave my dogs aspirin for years. It worked fine, until.....
My dog was dying from bone cancer. I went to the vet and decided to keep him happy for as long as I could.....he prescribed opiates and recommended that I switch them every couple of weeks.
It extended his life by four happy months. Yeah, no restrictions on bones, steaks, and other treats.
The real funny part, is that we were getting his prescriptions through our pharmacy and the Good RX program which significantly dropped the cost of drugs.
About a month before we finally had to put him down, the pharmacist told me that we were no longer eligible for the discounted pain medication.
It appears to Good RX finally figured out that Bugaboo was NOT a human. Their program was limited to humans and NOT DOGS. Yes, Good RX is a speciest in their values!!! Boycott them.
My question, why did Good RX think that Bugaboo was the name of my child???