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Title: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 01, 2024, 10:55:54 AM
Knew this was going to happen!!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/yellowstone-elk-numbers-decline-park-190000284.html
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: Katmai Guy on February 01, 2024, 12:43:08 PM
Yep, so did the wolf lovers.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: birddogdad on February 01, 2024, 12:46:29 PM
waiting for the time they move on to people and this insanity ends...
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: Rainier10 on February 01, 2024, 12:50:31 PM
Shocker. :yike:
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: ghosthunter on February 01, 2024, 06:22:22 PM
Well we don’t have any Bison.

But we got a lot of Mountain Bikers.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: Limhangerslayer on February 01, 2024, 06:43:32 PM
Hey, it’s not all on the wolves that killed the elk!!  They made sure and added climate change and hunters to the mix!🤦🏻
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: JWBINX on February 01, 2024, 08:39:28 PM
Well we don’t have any Bison.

But we got a lot of Mountain Bikers.

Just sayin.

And, the problem with Mountain Bikers?
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: nwwanderer on February 02, 2024, 06:37:01 AM
For the wolf, they are tough and stringy, not really worth the trouble unless things are really tough.  Have not found a deer for a week and no bison here, is it tough yet?
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: chukardogs on February 02, 2024, 07:57:38 AM
Bison are tough in more ways than one. There'll be a few dead wolves after attempts at subduing Bison. The wolves will kill some for sure but at what cost. There's a reason the North American continent was awash in Bison, 60 million from Southern Texas to Northern Saskatchewan in the beginning of the 1800s. If the Elk and Deer are few and far between now and the wolves aren't willing to leave the serenity of their protected lifestyle, then let the ebb begin. Sad that it's taken this long and so many animals were wasted.
 The epitome of Pathetic; forgetting the lessons of the past and having to live and learn them all over again.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2024, 08:55:21 AM
I hope a few of them get curb stomped
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: chukardogs on February 02, 2024, 08:58:58 AM
Amen to that!
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: LDennis24 on February 02, 2024, 10:23:41 AM
Since buffalo are hard for the wolves to take down they will have to supplement the wolves winter feed by shooting buffalo for them. Just wait...   Soon Yellowstone will be nothing but water features and mangy dogs trying to attack people who get out of their vehicle...SMH
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: chukardogs on February 02, 2024, 10:37:58 AM
Talk about irony! Raffle off the chance to shoot a buffalo so the wolves can be fed.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2024, 11:12:17 AM
No different than NE Washington.
Most don't realize that moose hunting will be gone soon and all your points will be worthless.
Deer and elk will go to permit only,the only place you'll find a deer or elk is in someone backyard.
Where wolves won't go.

Not every place is a biodiversity/natural habitat as Yellowstone, although seems as if many people in Washington are trying to go that direction.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: chukardogs on February 02, 2024, 12:54:02 PM
It's interesting, on the mountain in the central part of Okanogan county that I've been hunting since 92. We went from seeing on average 15 Mule deer, 3 to 5 Whitetails per day and no Moose whatsoever during the early years to seeing at most a dozen Mule deer, no Whitetails whatsoever and 2 to 3 Moose in an entire season over the last few years. Based on the sign, it's possible that there's a few more deer than what the few daytime sightings indicate but the few deer that are there, have all changed their behavior to where seeing them during the daylight hours is just a fluke. All of the tried and true places to sit at dawn and the last hour of daylight that produced opportunities for years have became really nice quiet places to relax before going back to camp to cook dinner. The one new situation that's really nice is the "guard dogs" that roam the outskirts of camp most nights, howling and carrying on so nothing will mess with you while you're trying to sleep.
 It's too bad I don't have a better poker face. I just don't think I can pull off with a straight face, no really ma'am, when it came through the trees, I totally thought that thing was a really big Mule deer.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2024, 02:29:26 PM
It's interesting, on the mountain in the central part of Okanogan county that I've been hunting since 92. We went from seeing on average 15 Mule deer, 3 to 5 Whitetails per day and no Moose whatsoever during the early years to seeing at most a dozen Mule deer, no Whitetails whatsoever and 2 to 3 Moose in an entire season over the last few years. Based on the sign, it's possible that there's a few more deer than what the few daytime sightings indicate but the few deer that are there, have all changed their behavior to where seeing them during the daylight hours is just a fluke. All of the tried and true places to sit at dawn and the last hour of daylight that produced opportunities for years have became really nice quiet places to relax before going back to camp to cook dinner. The one new situation that's really nice is the "guard dogs" that roam the outskirts of camp most nights, howling and carrying on so nothing will mess with you while you're trying to sleep.
 It's too bad I don't have a better poker face. I just don't think I can pull off with a straight face, no really ma'am, when it came through the trees, I totally thought that thing was a really big Mule deer.
Ya I see a lot of changes in the past ten years or so.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: wolfbait on February 08, 2024, 05:37:52 AM
No different than NE Washington.
Most don't realize that moose hunting will be gone soon and all your points will be worthless.
Deer and elk will go to permit only,the only place you'll find a deer or elk is in someone backyard.
Where wolves won't go.

Not every place is a biodiversity/natural habitat as Yellowstone, although seems as if many people in Washington are trying to go that direction.

 :yeah: Except

Wolves don't have a problem killing deer in the yard, had two come through my yard the other night, one left a track 3/4 the size of my baseball hat. Had two looking in our living room window in 2004.

Ten years ago or so wolves killed a deer in my uncles yard right next to the house, of course fitkin came and investigated, he said it wasn't wolves. Game warden at the time told my uncle it was wolves and they were training the pups to hunt, there were guts strung out all over.
Title: Re: Yellowstone wolves move on to Bison
Post by: nwwanderer on February 08, 2024, 07:24:58 AM
Stop spending money on them, give them the same status as a coyote, they (and we) will be fine.  The are beyond recovered and will become an expanding problem without pressure.  Protect them and your porch is a dinner site, pursue them and they are generally not a problem.  With pressure stock losses would decrease and the budget to pay for losses should be small, no pressure and continued spending is a recipe for failure.
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