Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 07, 2024, 09:53:25 AM
Looking around, it seems like the amount of edible, mammalian small game in Washington isn't impressive. I was looking for an excuse to buy a nicer .22LR rifle, and it took me a while to realize that, if I'm reading things correctly, rifles aren't allowed for squirrels here? And maybe the population of huntable squirrels is pretty small?
I'm not interested in shooting coyotes, so maybe the best "small" game is the puny blacktail deer we have? Or what am I missing.
Post by: Timberstalker on February 07, 2024, 10:08:02 AM
Snowshoes, and cottontails.
As far as "puny" blacktails, do a little research on some of the BT bucks taken.
Post by: jeffro on February 07, 2024, 10:13:28 AM
Post by: Bob33 on February 07, 2024, 10:39:07 AM
New member, here. Infrequent and rarely successful fisherman, haven't hunted since ducks and pronghorns many years ago as a teen.I'm not aware of a restriction against using a rimfire rifle for squirrels. The challenge with squirrels is that Washington has several species, and most are protected. My might try contacting a WDFW biologist in the areas you are considering hunting to learn more about the different species.
Looking around, it seems like the amount of edible, mammalian small game in Washington isn't impressive. I was looking for an excuse to buy a nicer .22LR rifle, and it took me a while to realize that, if I'm reading things correctly, rifles aren't allowed for squirrels here? And maybe the population of huntable squirrels is pretty small?
I'm not interested in shooting coyotes, so maybe the best "small" game is the puny blacktail deer we have? Or what am I missing.
Post by: nwwanderer on February 07, 2024, 12:35:31 PM
Post by: boneaddict on February 07, 2024, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 07, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
Post by: ducks4days on February 07, 2024, 01:16:12 PM
Eastern grey squirrels are invasive and can be hunted year round. There is no restriction on firearm. If hunted off of your property, a big or small game license is required. The attached PDF describes the different squirrel species in WA and their ranges. Eastern grey squirrels, also known as Chicken of the Trees, are wonderful breaded or battered, and deep fried. They also make a great stew.
I LOVE squirrel hunting, and its a damn shame we dont have more opportunity. The problem is that Eastern's are mostly clustered around populated city areas where they were introduced. Ive had convos with Sherriff's deputies more than once because people got nervous about me shooting squirrels around Issaquah. I have a few that hang around my property, but I cant convince myself to take more than a couple a year for fear of wiping them out of the area for good. I want to continue having opportunity.
The best squirrel habitat I have seen in the state is between Klickitat and Goldendale where oak trees are the dominant plant species. Its also the epicenter of the protected Western Gray squirrel distribution for the same reason.
The SJ islands have fox squirrels that are HUGE and DELICOUS. Access is a problem, but if you can get somebody to let you hunt, you can stack them up quickly.
Post by: Bob33 on February 07, 2024, 01:40:20 PM
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 06:56:24 AM
Rabbits. :tup:With or without a dog? Not that I've been trying very hard, but the rabbits I've seen are usually in a state park or someone's front yard in Seattle.
Snowshoes, and cottontails.
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As far as "puny" blacktails, do a little research on some of the BT bucks taken.No doubt. My impression of them has been ruined by spending time in the San Juans, particularly years ago at Friday Harbor Labs. That place is overrun with little deer. A few of the does are semi-respectable, but the bucks I've seen are kinda pitiful.
An exception was once when I was kayaking around Shaw Island (depart from FHL, about four hours). Around 15 years ago, I saw a really nice blacktail buck on the middle of the hillside facing Upright Channel, NE of the county park. Possibly only a four-point (memory fails me) but he was a good-sized animal. I'm sure you'd never get permission to hunt there, so he almost certainly died of old age, unless he got run over by a ferry. (On another lap around Shaw in another year, I saw a deer swimming from Shaw to Lopez in the same area. Tough animals; that water is COLD, even in summer!)
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 06:58:43 AM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=231633.0:tup:
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 07:10:03 AM
Raccoon eats well and are not in short supplyYeah, I had a chance to take one with my car at 8:00 last night and passed it up! Not kidding: on 65th St at 1st Ave NE in Seattle. If I'd floored it, I could have had 'im.
I don't think I'd get raccoon past my wife. And you should be real careful of the gut contents when cleaning them.
https://kingcounty.gov/en/legacy/depts/health/communicable-diseases/zoonotic/facts-resources/diseases-by-animal/raccoons
These worms don't harm the raccoons, but they're bad for many other mammals. A raccoon left a dump on our deck once a few years ago, and you could actually see a big worm in the turd, and they're full of eggs. I'm always surprised that more people don't catch this stuff because it's almost literally everywhere raccoons are found. It's nasty if you do get it: my sister is a psychologist in Portland and she had a patient who had picked up some of those worms and one got into his brain and caused real damage!
Since I learned about this, I no longer follow the five-second rule. If I drop food on the floor, it goes in the garbage unless I'm planning to cook it good and hard afterward.
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 07:20:09 AM
I'm not aware of a restriction against using a rimfire rifle for squirrels. The challenge with squirrels is that Washington has several species, and most are protected. My might try contacting a WDFW biologist in the areas you are considering hunting to learn more about the different species.OK, I saw a website that said shotguns and arrows only in Washington, but I didn't verify that with the state's site. I must have been mis-informed.
OTOH, shooting a rifle up in the air (meaning, at a tree branch) does kinda bother me from a safety standpoint. I'm not going to claim I never miss! I don't currently own a shotty, but I was thinking something like this stoked with duck or goose loads might not be a terrible idea, although a quick search seems to show that right now, 12 GA is hard to find, while 20 GA are abundant:
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/savage-301-turkey-single-shot-shotgun
Tell me how wrong I am!
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
The SJ islands have fox squirrels that are HUGE and DELICOUS. Access is a problem, but if you can get somebody to let you hunt, you can stack them up quickly.I know a couple of people who have semi-rural lots on San Juan Island, but not sure if any would be OK with shooting squirrels, unfortunately. I'd think of a .22 or .25 gas piston air rifle for that area, to keep the noise down and to minimize risk of the misses hurting someone.
Post by: Bullkllr on February 08, 2024, 07:33:48 AM
I'm not aware of a restriction against using a rimfire rifle for squirrels. The challenge with squirrels is that Washington has several species, and most are protected. My might try contacting a WDFW biologist in the areas you are considering hunting to learn more about the different species.OK, I saw a website that said shotguns and arrows only in Washington, but I didn't verify that with the state's site. I must have been mis-informed.
OTOH, shooting a rifle up in the air (meaning, at a tree branch) does kinda bother me from a safety standpoint. I'm not going to claim I never miss! I don't currently own a shotty, but I was thinking something like this stoked with duck or goose loads might not be a terrible idea, although a quick search seems to show that right now, 12 GA is hard to find, while 20 GA are abundant:
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/savage-301-turkey-single-shot-shotgun
Tell me how wrong I am!
Just a guess, but the above reference to shotguns/bows only may have been regarding a firearm restriction area, of which there are many. And they are often in the semirural areas you might find the eastern gray squirrels.
That shotgun would definitely work. 20 gauge would be more than enough. I imagine you would want to use lighter 'game loads' for most squirrel/rabbit hunting. Duck and goose loads would be substantial overkill not to mention being generally much higher priced.
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 07:39:06 AM
Could I interest you in about 10K starlings... :chuckle:That's per square mile, right?
Post by: nwwanderer on February 08, 2024, 07:41:22 AM
Post by: boneaddict on February 08, 2024, 07:53:33 AM
Post by: buckfvr on February 08, 2024, 09:45:04 AM
Post by: bkaech on February 08, 2024, 02:20:47 PM
As much as I love elk, my favorite animal to eat is Ruffed Grouse.
Post by: ducks4days on February 08, 2024, 02:40:48 PM
I'm curious what small game is NOT edible?
Pokemon on the original gameboy is pretty small, technically you could eat it once but probably not more than that
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 08, 2024, 03:09:40 PM
I'm curious what small game is NOT edible? Parasites are an overblown issue in most cases, if you are smart and cook it right, every animal is edible (as far as I can think of). Usually the thing that keeps you from eating an animal is your preconceptions about it or the fact that you didn't grow up eating it.
As much as I love elk, my favorite animal to eat is Ruffed Grouse.
Yep.👍
Post by: PoseurMarksman on February 08, 2024, 06:33:39 PM
:chuckle:I'm curious what small game is NOT edible?
Pokemon on the original gameboy is pretty small, technically you could eat it once but probably not more than that
Post by: Goshawk on February 28, 2024, 09:14:05 PM
New member, here. Infrequent and rarely successful fisherman, haven't hunted since ducks and pronghorns many years ago as a teen.
Looking around, it seems like the amount of edible, mammalian small game in Washington isn't impressive. I was looking for an excuse to buy a nicer .22LR rifle, and it took me a while to realize that, if I'm reading things correctly, rifles aren't allowed for squirrels here? And maybe the population of huntable squirrels is pretty small?
I'm not interested in shooting coyotes, so maybe the best "small" game is the puny blacktail deer we have? Or what am I missing.
Western Washington is pretty much the hind end of small game. If you do hunt the eastern gray, and this is very important, Do Not Eat Them if you're in or around a town. A recent study shows where they are loaded with rat poison from raiding rat and mouse bate.
Post by: Goshawk on April 21, 2024, 09:44:55 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 22, 2024, 04:18:35 AM
New member, here. Infrequent and rarely successful fisherman, haven't hunted since ducks and pronghorns many years ago as a teen.
Looking around, it seems like the amount of edible, mammalian small game in Washington isn't impressive. I was looking for an excuse to buy a nicer .22LR rifle, and it took me a while to realize that, if I'm reading things correctly, rifles aren't allowed for squirrels here? And maybe the population of huntable squirrels is pretty small?
I'm not interested in shooting coyotes, so maybe the best "small" game is the puny blacktail deer we have? Or what am I missing.
Western Washington is pretty much the hind end of small game. If you do hunt the eastern gray, and this is very important, Do Not Eat Them if you're in or around a town. A recent study shows where they are loaded with rat poison from raiding rat and mouse bate.
Never thought of that. Wouldn’t that kill the squirrel?
Post by: HikerHunter on April 22, 2024, 01:27:23 PM
Eastern grey squirrels are invasive and can be hunted year round. There is no restriction on firearm. If hunted off of your property, a big or small game license is required. The attached PDF describes the different squirrel species in WA and their ranges. Eastern grey squirrels, also known as Chicken of the Trees, are wonderful breaded or battered, and deep fried. They also make a great stew.
I LOVE squirrel hunting, and its a damn shame we dont have more opportunity. The problem is that Eastern's are mostly clustered around populated city areas where they were introduced. Ive had convos with Sherriff's deputies more than once because people got nervous about me shooting squirrels around Issaquah. I have a few that hang around my property, but I cant convince myself to take more than a couple a year for fear of wiping them out of the area for good. I want to continue having opportunity.
The best squirrel habitat I have seen in the state is between Klickitat and Goldendale where oak trees are the dominant plant species. Its also the epicenter of the protected Western Gray squirrel distribution for the same reason.
The SJ islands have fox squirrels that are HUGE and DELICOUS. Access is a problem, but if you can get somebody to let you hunt, you can stack them up quickly.
My experience is that they are like any rodent, extremely hard to actually eradicate. If there is good habitat, more will find it and move in.