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Title: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: MeepDog on February 08, 2024, 07:53:43 AM
WDFW is pushing for wolves to be downlisted from endangered to threatened. There's an open comment period to clarify what we already know: wolves are not in danger of extinction in Washington anymore. The downlisting won't open them to hunting, but it's important to correctly represent the correct level of concern so that we don't end up in a grid lock like the federal ESA list. If you believe wolves shouldn't still be considered endangered status in our WA now is your chance to comment.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/newsroom/news-release/wdfw-opens-public-comment-period-rule-making-proposed-status-change-gray-wolf
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: MR5x5 on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 PM
That would be a step in the right direction.  :tup:
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: 1Guy on February 08, 2024, 06:17:28 PM
I filled it out, saying the wolves should actually be Delisted but vulnerable is a step in the right direction. I also made the comment that the hunters and ranchers comments are the only ones that should matter on this
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: hughjorgan on February 08, 2024, 06:55:59 PM
Made my comments yesterday. Glad you posted this so more people get involved. I am positive Washington wildlife first has a lawsuit prepared for when WDFW down lists the wolf.
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: Tbar on February 08, 2024, 07:11:45 PM
I filled it out, saying the wolves should actually be Delisted but vulnerable is a step in the right direction. I also made the comment that the hunters comments are the only ones that should matter on this

I cringe when I see comments like this.  Situational awareness tells me that 90% plus do not hunt.  They are however included in a public process and to tell them they do not matter is poor form.  I believe hunters are absolutely invested in conservation of game species. Wolves may never be a game species in this state if the non hunting public feels irrelevant.  In addition hunters do not fully fund wildlife in this state, they don't even fund the majority.
I would rather send a message to support delisting. I would support hunting with a commitment to solving the complexities of conserving apex predators on a settled landscape with all impacted parties. The divide may work in other states but I highly doubt the comment would be a benefit in Washington. 
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: hughjorgan on February 08, 2024, 08:39:49 PM
I filled it out, saying the wolves should actually be Delisted but vulnerable is a step in the right direction. I also made the comment that the hunters comments are the only ones that should matter on this

I cringe when I see comments like this.  Situational awareness tells me that 90% plus do not hunt.  They are however included in a public process and to tell them they do not matter is poor form.  I believe hunters are absolutely invested in conservation of game species. Wolves may never be a game species in this state if the non hunting public feels irrelevant.  In addition hunters do not fully fund wildlife in this state, they don't even fund the majority.
I would rather send a message to support delisting. I would support hunting with a commitment to solving the complexities of conserving apex predators on a settled landscape with all impacted parties. The divide may work in other states but I highly doubt the comment would be a benefit in Washington.

According to this survey:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/01594/wdfw01594.pdf

Washington residents would support downlisting and even having a hunting season when wolfs are recovered.
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: 1Guy on February 08, 2024, 08:53:35 PM
Who does this effect the most (Hunters and Ranchers) why should the liberal in the city have a say when they don't care about what happens to the rest of the wildlife, they will keep them on the endangered species list just so they hope to go out and see some wolves
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: RC on February 09, 2024, 08:46:12 AM
Comments submitted.  Very easy to do, so no reason not to.
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: deer_hnter on February 09, 2024, 09:01:32 AM
Comment submitted - thanks for the heads up!  :tup:
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: bearpaw on February 09, 2024, 09:26:37 AM
WDFW is pushing for wolves to be downlisted from endangered to threatened. There's an open comment period to clarify what we already know: wolves are not in danger of extinction in Washington anymore. The downlisting won't open them to hunting, but it's important to correctly represent the correct level of concern so that we don't end up in a grid lock like the federal ESA list. If you believe wolves shouldn't still be considered endangered status in our WA now is your chance to comment.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/newsroom/news-release/wdfw-opens-public-comment-period-rule-making-proposed-status-change-gray-wolf


That was super easy to comment, thanks!

https://publicinput.com/sepa_graywolf
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: boneaddict on February 09, 2024, 09:37:29 AM
Wow, thank you.   That was easy.  Comment submitted. 
Title: Re: ACTION Wolf Downlisting
Post by: GOcougsHunter on February 09, 2024, 09:57:21 AM
Comment submitted. Thank you for the link.  I advised them to listen to their own biologists and that their own professional/career biologists are "the best available science"
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