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Title: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: boneaddict on March 15, 2024, 04:51:52 PM
I haven’t substantiated it yet, but hear AZ is doing away with auction tags 2026
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: meatwhack on March 15, 2024, 05:08:30 PM
Now we’ll get to see if the wildlife will survive without the money from the rich.
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: hughjorgan on March 15, 2024, 05:24:01 PM
What was the reasoning behind Arizonas commission for do this? Anyone know?
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: kentrek on March 15, 2024, 07:09:29 PM
This is dumb
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: go4steelhd on March 15, 2024, 07:11:50 PM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2024, 08:33:45 PM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

This is where I’m at. A bazillion dollars to conservation probably will never be a bad thing. Not sure how to feel about this. I like that the big $$ ballers won’t be able to buy tags but I’m not sure how they plan to replace the conservation funds drawn from these tags.
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: NWWA Hunter on March 16, 2024, 07:45:22 AM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

This is where I’m at. A bazillion dollars to conservation probably will never be a bad thing. Not sure how to feel about this. I like that the big $$ ballers won’t be able to buy tags but I’m not sure how they plan to replace the conservation funds drawn from these tags.
Unfortunately we won’t replace it. In general the correct way is the every day hunter needs to donate something to the cause but it has never and will likely never happen. Just look at what percent of hunters have memberships , volunteer, donate or attend banquets for conservation groups. Although auction tags and selling of wildlife is not the right way, so far it is one of the only ways that has been proven to be a big asset to the hunting community.


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Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: highcountry_hunter on March 16, 2024, 06:41:15 PM
Does anyone know if they are going to replace it with an extra raffle tag? Idk if Arizona even has raffle tags but that could help raise a few $$ that they’ll be missing out on.


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Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: NWWA Hunter on March 16, 2024, 07:48:50 PM
Does anyone know if they are going to replace it with an extra raffle tag? Idk if Arizona even has raffle tags but that could help raise a few $$ that they’ll be missing out on.


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They did this without any plan. Typical government


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Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: Remnar on March 16, 2024, 08:20:55 PM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

Same here..

This is where I’m at. A bazillion dollars to conservation probably will never be a bad thing. Not sure how to feel about this. I like that the big $$ ballers won’t be able to buy tags but I’m not sure how they plan to replace the conservation funds drawn from these tags.
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 16, 2024, 08:33:42 PM
I don't know enough about AZ game commission to speak intelligently as to whether or not the money is essential to maintenance of the herd. That said I am not convinced more money for moneys sake is always better. Sometimes it's needed sometimes its squandered.

I do think auction tags should exist. They are a great tool for game agencies and a great opportunity for those with the means to purchase them.  I would like to see them more precise in use. Not just an annual budget line item with " to benefit species " as the catch all. Mule deer have a rough winter or are about to lose a thousand acres of prime winter range. Auction tag. Sheep have a disease that needs additional funding to treat herds. Auction tag. It seems like most auction tags end up in orgs to benefit species but is not specific to what it will be used for. Perhaps I am way off. Just rambling

Raffles should have ticket limits  :twocents:
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: bearpaw on March 20, 2024, 10:45:09 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/arizona-will-stop-auctioning-big-game-tags-to-the-wealthiest-hunters/ar-BB1kf8t5?ocid
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: bearpaw on March 20, 2024, 10:55:57 PM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

This is where I’m at. A bazillion dollars to conservation probably will never be a bad thing. Not sure how to feel about this. I like that the big $$ ballers won’t be able to buy tags but I’m not sure how they plan to replace the conservation funds drawn from these tags.

I'm not sure what to think either, but don't most states allocate the money from tag auctions to the specific specie program? So the half million raised from the AZ deer tag would go to managing Arizona deer? I guess if the money is allocated that way I am more in favor of keeping auction tags. If the auction money goes into a general wildlife fund where it could be used for studying frog sexuality or reintroducing wolves and grizzlies or something else unrelated to helping the respective species, then I would be opposed to auction tags.
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 21, 2024, 10:34:16 AM
I’m not really sure how I feel about this. I hate seeing the best of the best animals getting taken with these tags, maybe if they don’t have them regular hunters will have an opportunity at these animals.

The flip side is I think just the deer tag alone has been raising over half a million a year lately. This has to help with the habitat and management of wildlife in that area

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

This is where I’m at. A bazillion dollars to conservation probably will never be a bad thing. Not sure how to feel about this. I like that the big $$ ballers won’t be able to buy tags but I’m not sure how they plan to replace the conservation funds drawn from these tags.

I'm not sure what to think either, but don't most states allocate the money from tag auctions to the specific specie program? So the half million raised from the AZ deer tag would go to managing Arizona deer? I guess if the money is allocated that way I am more in favor of keeping auction tags. If the auction money goes into a general wildlife fund where it could be used for studying frog sexuality or reintroducing wolves and grizzlies or something else unrelated to helping the respective species, then I would be opposed to auction tags.

Good point.  Hadn't thought of it that way...
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 21, 2024, 11:19:09 AM
We can get a first glimpse of how raffles compare to auctions when the Montana Mule Deer raffle is over.

https://montana.bhafundraising.org/montanamuledeerlottery/Campaign/Details (https://montana.bhafundraising.org/montanamuledeerlottery/Campaign/Details)
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: Ironhead on March 23, 2024, 09:24:39 AM
I am all for the elimination of auctioning off the state's animals to the highest bidders. If the rich are really about conservation, they can drop 400,000.00 on raffle tags.
I am 100% for raffle tags and 100% against auction tags.
Title: Re: Bye bye AZ auction tags
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on March 25, 2024, 10:53:05 AM
I’m not even 100% sure that more money is what state agencies need to manage wildlife, much like education, I don’t really see the correlation of money spent resulting in a win, it seems that as with all government spending the end result is typically a net negative to society. You guys in Washington need look no further, legal marijuana is a boon to the states coffers, thus they must have a lot of money to spend, but in what ways has the lives of any Washington taxpayer improved since weed was legalized, as far as I can tell the last few times I’ve been to Washington, your roads are worse than ever before and you all continue to be more heavily taxed as the government continues to take away your freedoms. All that to say I don’t see the loss of a 1 time per year shot in the arm of $500k to AGFD as any loss at all really, they will just have to find a way to do their jobs, maybe it means their game wardens only get a new truck every other year instead of every year.


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