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Title: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 04:01:03 PM: Got a 16.5 foot older blue fin boat (aluminum ) sold my boat during Covid and pick up if for a great deal it’s completely open I put one pedestal seat in and boys sit in camping chairs for now it’s rated for a 90hp I wanna stick with a tiller motor and I got it with no motor had a 30etec sitting and with 2 adults and very little gear gets ya up on a plain . I plain on pulling floor refoaming and setting up boat better this winter

My question is as I redo it . Max hp is 90hp and I feel like I should set it up at that just so I never a worry about hauling gear or worrying about being under powered. Lots of tiller options out there but lookin for opinions
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: JBG on May 06, 2024, 04:18:33 PM: If your budget permits then send it. I had a 115 jet (so 30% loss due to jet) on a 17 ft heavy gauge welded North River Scout that pushed it along just fine. I think a 90 with a prop will be plenty. I would say 50 - 60HP would be the workable budget friendly option if your not looking to break the bank.
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Post by: GWP on May 06, 2024, 04:34:32 PM: My last boat had a smallish outboard (40 on a 16’) for the weight. Found with 3 bigger guys and gear it would not get on the step. I put on a ‘Piranha Prop’ and while I lost a few top end mph it would get on the step and had a better hole shot even loaded down. I really liked what a gas sipper it was. Since I was using it 95% by myself it worked fine the vast majority of the time.
Changed to a different boat with 4 times the HP (175 on a 19’) and promptly ran it out of gas because the gauge did not read accurately and it sucks WAY more fuel. About twice the speed (could prop it for more) than the other one had, but that was not really why I bought it.
If I had it to do over I would stick with the lower HP powered boat and fill it up once a year instead of every other time I go out. The power is nice at times, but not for the fuel consumption trade off.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on May 06, 2024, 04:38:03 PM: You'll be pleased with a 60. 4 stroke Yamaha or Zuk for efficiency and weight.
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Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 04:39:34 PM: Appreciate the advice on trade off as far as fuel goes , and as well as go with what the budget allows , I don’t want it to be a slug either , might weigh it now. With average gear , then when I refoam , build a storage option or 2 reweigh and see the difference. I definitely want to stick with tiller as there is so much more room
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Post by: fishngamereaper on May 06, 2024, 04:51:30 PM: I ran a 16.9 hewescraft for years with a 60 on it.
Took it 50 miles of of Westport for tuna. 30 miles out of neah for halibut.
Great fuel range and enough power for 3 adults and gear. Would a 90 been better. Probably but the 60 was a workhorse..
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 05:08:22 PM: Quote from: fishngamereaper on May 06, 2024, 04:51:30 PM
I ran a 16.9 hewescraft for years with a 60 on it.
Took it 50 miles of of Westport for tuna. 30 miles out of neah for halibut.
Great fuel range and enough power for 3 adults and gear. Would a 90 been better. Probably but the 60 was a workhorse..

Thank you for the advice I appreciate it !
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Post by: trophyhunt on May 06, 2024, 05:35:01 PM: Yamaha all the way!!
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Post by: SeaRun1 on May 06, 2024, 05:41:40 PM: Always put the most hp you can put on a boat. No one ever regrets having more horse power. Been through this before as well as many friends. Get a 90 Yamaha or Honda and enjoy!

SR1
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: Crunchy on May 06, 2024, 05:47:07 PM: My old boat was rated for a 115hp but had a 90hp Honda and matching 8hp Honda kicker. The 90 was plenty for the 18ft Hewescraft. Although I would have liked more speed it sat in the water fairly stern heavy. My new boat is rated for 250hp but has a 200hp Yamaha with a matching 9.9hp kicker. The 200 is perfectly fine with me. The Honda's seem a bit quieter but definite difference in size. The Honda kicker seemed a bit smoother as well. If it were me I would get something close to max rating and call it good. No matter what motor you put on it you will always want to go faster.
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Post by: BD1 on May 06, 2024, 06:35:59 PM: I just bought a 1860 Lowe Roughneck. I opted for the 60 hp Merc. We just finished up with the break in process and I love the motor. It is a tiller setup so yeah it is certainly bigger than the 25 hp on my last boat. There was only about 40+ pound difference between that and the 40hp that is the stock option. The bout weighs about 670#. It is a very powerful motor. I won't debate motor makes on here...they have all come a long way since I last had one. It flies. I do have the rear pods on the boat which helps with the weight of the motor. Good luck with the project.
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Post by: trophyhunt on May 07, 2024, 04:54:44 AM: Well since you won’t debate boat motors, I won’t ask what makes people choose something other than a Yamaha or Honda?? 🤣🤣.
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Post by: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 05:58:19 AM: If your boat is older then the it was probably rated for a 2 stroke which are lighter then today's 4 stroke engines. For example a yamaha 70hp outboard weighs 253 lbs and a yamaha 75 horse weighs 353 lbs. I would be more concerned with how much weight you add to the transom then horse power. My suggestion is the yamaha 70 horse.

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Post by: jeffitz on May 07, 2024, 06:00:06 AM: I must be diverse- Honda main and Yamaha kicker on my boat - love em both
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 06:16:18 AM: Quote from: jeffitz on May 07, 2024, 06:00:06 AM
I must be diverse- Honda main and Yamaha kicker on my boat - love em both
Honda makes great outboards. But the honda bf75 weighs 359 lbs. That's a lot of weight on the transom of a 16' boat.

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Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 07, 2024, 10:14:07 AM: Quote from: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 06:16:18 AM
Quote from: jeffitz on May 07, 2024, 06:00:06 AM
I must be diverse- Honda main and Yamaha kicker on my boat - love em both
Honda makes great outboards. But the honda bf75 weighs 359 lbs. That's a lot of weight on the transom of a 16' boat.

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As you mention and previous post it is an older boat and weight is a consideration, also I have learned older motors were rated at power head , new motors are rated at the prop. I have a lot of research to do I suppose I see the evinrudes are probably the lightest motors , Honda is by far the heaviest. My tiderunner had a Yamaha 130 2 stroke. And when that went tits up I went to a new 4 stoke Mercury which I loved. I have had a few boats with newer yamaha. Lots of great options out there I guess the weight is a huge consideration.
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Post by: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 10:32:20 AM: Depending on where in the state, you will want to make sure you have a repair shop close by in case you need to have it worked on. Nothing worse then having to drive a couple hrs to a shop to have your boat worked on.

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Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 07, 2024, 10:41:16 AM: Quote from: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 10:32:20 AM
Depending on where in the state, you will want to make sure you have a repair shop close by in case you need to have it worked on. Nothing worse then having to drive a couple hrs to a shop to have your boat worked on.

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Who needs a repair shop when I can fix anything , not sure what you were referring too. But I tend to fix everything on my own
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 07, 2024, 11:17:05 AM: Quote from: millerwheeler on May 07, 2024, 10:41:16 AM
Quote from: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 10:32:20 AM
Depending on where in the state, you will want to make sure you have a repair shop close by in case you need to have it worked on. Nothing worse then having to drive a couple hrs to a shop to have your boat worked on.

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Who needs a repair shop when I can fix anything , not sure what you were referring too. But I tend to fix everything on my own

I'm guessing new motor warranty work...
As long as my new stuff is under warranty I have maintenance done by certified tech's so there's no questions if the warranty needs to be used.
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 07, 2024, 01:55:50 PM: Quote from: fishngamereaper on May 07, 2024, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: millerwheeler on May 07, 2024, 10:41:16 AM
Quote from: hiway_99 on May 07, 2024, 10:32:20 AM
Depending on where in the state, you will want to make sure you have a repair shop close by in case you need to have it worked on. Nothing worse then having to drive a couple hrs to a shop to have your boat worked on.

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Who needs a repair shop when I can fix anything , not sure what you were referring too. But I tend to fix everything on my own

I'm guessing new motor warranty work...
As long as my new stuff is under warranty I have maintenance done by certified tech's so there's no questions if the warranty needs to be used.

That makes sense
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: BD1 on May 07, 2024, 04:27:41 PM: Quote from: trophyhunt on May 07, 2024, 04:54:44 AM
Well since you won’t debate boat motors, I won’t ask what makes people choose something other than a Yamaha or Honda?? 🤣🤣.

Well I have had Hondas, Mercs, Evinrude and Yamaha...I must be lucky, I have loved them all, The Merc I have now was the main option on a package deal. No complaints but as I said, maybe I am just lucky. :dunno:
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Post by: Caseyd on May 07, 2024, 07:41:10 PM: Quote from: trophyhunt on May 07, 2024, 04:54:44 AM
Well since you won’t debate boat motors, I won’t ask what makes people choose something other than a Yamaha or Honda?? 🤣🤣.

Merc or Yamaha
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Post by: HntnFsh on May 08, 2024, 06:58:23 AM: Because they make Suzukis!
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: millerwheeler on May 08, 2024, 08:22:56 AM: Throw some reason of why you like one brand to the other I’m all for conversation. I have had them all. I think the Honda is too heavy for this boat , the evinrude is the lightest I can see , Yamaha has never let me down but honestly neither has the mercury had on last boat.
Title: Re: Outfitting boat with new outboard max horsepower
Post by: BD1 on May 08, 2024, 12:15:35 PM: Do you have an idea how much your boat weighs? Mine is 650# empty and the 60hp Merc is 257# Both are brand new.
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Post by: millerwheeler on May 09, 2024, 10:38:44 PM: Quote from: BD1 on May 08, 2024, 12:15:35 PM
Do you have an idea how much your boat weighs? Mine is 650# empty and the 60hp Merc is 257# Both are brand new.

Actually gonna try and hit a scale this weekend to sort that out
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Post by: CackleBird98 on May 10, 2024, 07:34:37 AM: Seriously look at yammys. Ill never own anything else...
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Post by: BD1 on May 10, 2024, 12:45:08 PM: Also I opted for the rear pods...the boat sits level in the water. Some people don't like them but I have no complaints
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Post by: follow maggie on May 10, 2024, 05:05:26 PM: I wouldn’t get an evinrude. My brother is swapping his out with a Yamaha because when it breaks, no one can find parts for it.
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Post by: Stein on May 30, 2024, 12:07:33 PM: I have a 90 on my 18' windshield boat that weighs about 3,000 pounds and it is everything I need including when pulling tubes with 4 people in the boat.

Weight is something I would look at, I would likely go a bit smaller unless you plan on flying around all the time. I can run up to about 40 fishing and do that just about never. Most of the time I run 25 or so unless it's miraculously flat out.

I have a Mercury, it's been awesome and I have the bluetooth do-dad that sends data to my phone. It's been very nice for everything from calculating fuel consumption, monitoring temps and tracking maintenance. It's been 100% flawless since 2017.

I had a 40 on a 16' Smokercraft windshield version and it was underpowered unless I was on it by myself. I would think 60 might be a sweetspot for a 16 tiller.