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Title: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: raydog on September 27, 2024, 09:46:58 AM
Ryan Callaghan and our fellow Washingtonian/Hunt-wa Jason Phelps put out an information video on hoof disease.

Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: GOcougsHunter on September 27, 2024, 09:59:45 AM
good post!  thanks
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: Kola16 on September 27, 2024, 12:50:38 PM
I watched that video the other day. Very sad. It is cool that WSU is working on learning more about it.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: NorseNW on September 27, 2024, 07:51:17 PM
Definitely informative and interesting video. Didn't exactly make me real motivated about elk hunting this year but sometimes the truth hurts.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: highside74 on September 27, 2024, 08:12:54 PM
Saw that vid the other day. It's great WSU is working on learning about it but I was very bummed to hear they aren't even thinking about working on a treatment any time soon.

In my mind I'm like why aren't they also throwing stuff like ivermeating at it to see how it reacts. I also wonder why they don't make visibly diseased elk open season. If it's communicable like they say and a death sentence to the infected, killing them should be as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on September 27, 2024, 08:44:15 PM
Alot of what I hear is the constant theory about the "pesticides" weyerhaueser has been spraying since abandoning slash pile burning clearcuts. Also of alleged bags of "compost" aka recycled human fecies being spread over timber areas, those "big black bags" on the backs of semis with lowboy trailers full of them headed south. Seems to all coincidentally happen about the same time hoof rot started to show up in our elk herds in SW wa.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: raydog on September 28, 2024, 04:57:35 AM
Saw that vid the other day. It's great WSU is working on learning about it but I was very bummed to hear they aren't even thinking about working on a treatment any time soon.

In my mind I'm like why aren't they also throwing stuff like ivermeating at it to see how it reacts. I also wonder why they don't make visibly diseased elk open season. If it's communicable like they say and a death sentence to the infected, killing them should be as soon as possible.
I was really disappointed to hear they weren't even looking at options to cure. I know it's a process, and I'm certainly not any smarter than the folks at wsu, but I wonder why they haven't tried something?
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: HntnFsh on September 28, 2024, 07:57:34 AM
WSU has been working on it for what, 15 years. Maybe more. How much progress have they made?

I've heard the questions about Ivermectin. I think the distribution would be the hard part.

I wouldn't be surprised if these animals are low in copper and selenium. My understanding is they are vital to the elks immune system. A lot of the plants that they get those minerals from is what is irradicated with spraying clear cuts.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: JPhelps on October 01, 2024, 08:58:56 AM
I've been trying to bring awareness to "hoof rot" for a long time and this seemed like the right place and time.  Cal did a great job with it and I'm surprised by how many people had no clue it even existed.

My only wish is, we could get some "private" research going to parallel WSU. 
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: andersonjk4 on October 01, 2024, 10:15:42 AM
I've been trying to bring awareness to "hoof rot" for a long time and this seemed like the right place and time.  Cal did a great job with it and I'm surprised by how many people had no clue it even existed.

My only wish is, we could get some "private" research going to parallel WSU.

Is RMEF doing anything regarding hoof rot? 
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: nwwanderer on October 01, 2024, 11:51:39 AM
Diet should certainly be in the mix.  Treating individuals not so much.  Good info from Dr. Wild, turn privates loose on it and see where it goes.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: Hectocotylus on October 01, 2024, 03:10:27 PM
Callahan said he would get her on his podcast, send questions for her to him to ask her


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Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: raydog on October 03, 2024, 08:14:58 AM
I've been trying to bring awareness to "hoof rot" for a long time and this seemed like the right place and time.  Cal did a great job with it and I'm surprised by how many people had no clue it even existed.

My only wish is, we could get some "private" research going to parallel WSU.

Is RMEF doing anything regarding hoof rot?

I believe RMEF was helping or funding some research a few years back, but haven't heard anything recently.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: raydog on October 03, 2024, 08:20:33 AM
Alot of what I hear is the constant theory about the "pesticides" weyerhaueser has been spraying since abandoning slash pile burning clearcuts. Also of alleged bags of "compost" aka recycled human fecies being spread over timber areas, those "big black bags" on the backs of semis with lowboy trailers full of them headed south. Seems to all coincidentally happen about the same time hoof rot started to show up in our elk herds in SW wa.

I've heard that theory a few time and it may or may not be true. But from what we're discovering these chemicals do to humans and animals, I'm surprised they're even allowed to be used. I would be happy to see them go away.
Title: Re: Hoof Disease Video
Post by: HntnFsh on October 03, 2024, 09:47:52 AM
A lot of them can't be used in other countries.
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