Post by: high_hunter on September 27, 2024, 11:15:28 AM
Meeitng overview happening now and running a bit late as usual: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2024/26-28sep2024-agenda
HH
Post by: Ridgeratt on September 27, 2024, 06:26:38 PM
Post by: dwils233 on September 27, 2024, 07:19:44 PM
Local news said that tempers flared and it was a heated meeting.
really? What news source?
Post by: Ridgeratt on September 27, 2024, 07:23:52 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on September 27, 2024, 07:36:36 PM
Post by: dwils233 on September 27, 2024, 08:29:33 PM
I didn’t watch the whole thing, but the discussion regarding a legislative mandate to negotiate with the colville tribe got a little heated. Especially between Commissioner Rowland and the WDFW lawyer. Rowland was taken aback that the tribal rights included unregulated hunting on non-reservation lands. Especially her beloved wolves. And she kept questioning the lawyer about it. She couldn’t believe there wasn’t something they could do to keep them from killing wolves. The lawyer seems pretty dumbfounded at her naivety on federal tribal rights. And there was a general air of power from the preservation commissioners that the proposal was giving the director permission to negotiate with the tribe without them being involved. They really let their true power hungry colors show.
That was the lowest point so far this weekend, but it's not surprising based on how they talk about tribes usually.
That said, there is no excuse for any lawyer, but especially an environmental lawyer to not understand the supremacy clauses, or the fundamental meaning of sovereignty. It's rare to see the department lawyer lose his cool, but it has happened a couple times now with tribes I think
Post by: harveymarv on September 28, 2024, 06:40:04 PM
I didn’t watch the whole thing, but the discussion regarding a legislative mandate to negotiate with the colville tribe got a little heated. Especially between Commissioner Rowland and the WDFW lawyer. Rowland was taken aback that the tribal rights included unregulated hunting on non-reservation lands. Especially her beloved wolves. And she kept questioning the lawyer about it. She couldn’t believe there wasn’t something they could do to keep them from killing wolves. The lawyer seems pretty dumbfounded at her naivety on federal tribal rights. And there was a general air of power from the preservation commissioners that the proposal was giving the director permission to negotiate with the tribe without them being involved. They really let their true power hungry colors show.
That was the lowest point so far this weekend, but it's not surprising based on how they talk about tribes usually.
That said, there is no excuse for any lawyer, but especially an environmental lawyer to not understand the supremacy clauses, or the fundamental meaning of sovereignty. It's rare to see the department lawyer lose his cool, but it has happened a couple times now with tribes I think
Post by: Tbar on September 28, 2024, 06:45:23 PM
Her ignorance and emotion are unbelievable. She represented NOAA through the entire whaling issue. She should be aware of legal structures.I didn’t watch the whole thing, but the discussion regarding a legislative mandate to negotiate with the colville tribe got a little heated. Especially between Commissioner Rowland and the WDFW lawyer. Rowland was taken aback that the tribal rights included unregulated hunting on non-reservation lands. Especially her beloved wolves. And she kept questioning the lawyer about it. She couldn’t believe there wasn’t something they could do to keep them from killing wolves. The lawyer seems pretty dumbfounded at her naivety on federal tribal rights. And there was a general air of power from the preservation commissioners that the proposal was giving the director permission to negotiate with the tribe without them being involved. They really let their true power hungry colors show.
That was the lowest point so far this weekend, but it's not surprising based on how they talk about tribes usually.
That said, there is no excuse for any lawyer, but especially an environmental lawyer to not understand the supremacy clauses, or the fundamental meaning of sovereignty. It's rare to see the department lawyer lose his cool, but it has happened a couple times now with tribes I think
Post by: nontypical on September 29, 2024, 01:39:26 PM
Post by: high_hunter on September 29, 2024, 03:13:20 PM
Which meeting and under what topic did this occur? I always love seeing my money wasted on meetings, to educate people that make rules that don't have a clue.
Look at the agenda.