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Title: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Humptulips on February 09, 2025, 10:33:31 AM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=1930&Year=2025&Initiative=false

Interesting proposal, I think I like it. Republican sponsored so I won't get my hopes to high.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 09, 2025, 11:14:37 AM
Better than anything I've seen so far.   :twocents:
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Tbar on February 09, 2025, 11:26:46 AM
Each region has multiple counties correct? How would they decide legislative authority? Skagit and king are both in R4.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on February 09, 2025, 11:46:08 AM
Sent support comments to my legislators of both my addresses..... Wet side and NE
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Buckhunter24 on February 09, 2025, 11:56:25 AM
Better than anything I've seen so far.   :twocents:

I agree. Would be nice to see section 1C include additional wording along the lines of: no county may have more than 1 representative on the commission.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on February 09, 2025, 12:02:42 PM
Or long-time residency for East of the Cascades.     RE Lorna
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Tbar on February 09, 2025, 01:54:51 PM
Or long-time residency for East of the Cascades.     RE Lorna
She's from Jefferson County. Maybe Rowland?
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Torrent50 on February 09, 2025, 05:17:09 PM
Very similar to my suggestion to my legislators.  I included one commissioner selected by the tribes as well and left off the at-large positions.   I thought of having the regional directors select the appointee though.   Not sure how the multiple county governments can work this out.

Maybe they actually listen when you write in after all.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: hughjorgan on February 09, 2025, 06:08:55 PM
Sent my support to my legislators. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: bigtex on February 09, 2025, 06:58:39 PM
Each region has multiple counties correct? How would they decide legislative authority? Skagit and king are both in R4.
That's described in the bill.

Essentially every county in R4 nominates 1 person to serve on the commission. They also nominate one person to serve as the delegate for the final voting committee for the commission appointment. The delegates for all counties in R4 then select who will represent R4.

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Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 10, 2025, 04:45:49 AM
Sent my support of this bill with comments to my Legislators.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 10, 2025, 07:55:06 AM
Sent my support from region 20.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 10, 2025, 09:51:41 AM
IMO best of the options we've seen so far. Maybe not perfect but I commented in support. As long as it remains dictated by Gubernatorial appointments things will continue to decline precipitously for hunters and anglers
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: SuperX on February 10, 2025, 01:54:04 PM
Each region has multiple counties correct? How would they decide legislative authority? Skagit and king are both in R4.
That's described in the bill.

Essentially every county in R4 nominates 1 person to serve on the commission. They also nominate one person to serve as the delegate for the final voting committee for the commission appointment. The delegates for all counties in R4 then select who will represent R4.

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Who nominates them, the voters? some smoke filled room of 'insiders'?  The justice of the peace?    Did this approach ever exist in WA and how did it work?  Not against fixing the problem but we need to be sure we don't go from the current model which will always be problematic, to one that is equally doomed. 

I would rather see a bill saying that the commission is not empowered to reduce seasons or harvest limits and must get permission to do so from the tribes or the hunters and fishers themselves, maybe an add on to getting your license you vote for a commissioner in your region from a list of nominees.  The biologists could create a standard, based on science, by which harvest should be reduced.  e.g. if herd size drops to some pre-defined level, or some harvest number is too high, these closures/adjustments will be made.  I would also want to see a bill saying that the commissioners must be active hunter/fisher similar to this proposed bill. 
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: KNOPHISH on February 10, 2025, 02:36:07 PM
Supported, Anyone can have an agenda but if they follow science, biologists recommendations and the North American model of conservation it’d work for me. No ballot box management.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 10, 2025, 06:19:21 PM
Supported, Anyone can have an agenda but if they follow science, biologists recommendations and the North American model of conservation it’d work for me. No ballot box management.


 :yeah:   And no biologist agendas. Just the science.
Title: Re: HB 1930, Republican sponsored changes to Commission
Post by: Humptulips on February 10, 2025, 07:09:40 PM
Each region has multiple counties correct? How would they decide legislative authority? Skagit and king are both in R4.
That's described in the bill.

Essentially every county in R4 nominates 1 person to serve on the commission. They also nominate one person to serve as the delegate for the final voting committee for the commission appointment. The delegates for all counties in R4 then select who will represent R4.

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Who nominates them, the voters? some smoke filled room of 'insiders'?  The justice of the peace?    Did this approach ever exist in WA and how did it work?  Not against fixing the problem but we need to be sure we don't go from the current model which will always be problematic, to one that is equally doomed. 

I would rather see a bill saying that the commission is not empowered to reduce seasons or harvest limits and must get permission to do so from the tribes or the hunters and fishers themselves, maybe an add on to getting your license you vote for a commissioner in your region from a list of nominees.  The biologists could create a standard, based on science, by which harvest should be reduced.  e.g. if herd size drops to some pre-defined level, or some harvest number is too high, these closures/adjustments will be made.  I would also want to see a bill saying that the commissioners must be active hunter/fisher similar to this proposed bill.
The County Commissioners of each county would get to nominate candidates and also select a delegate to vote on a F&W Commissioner for their region.
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