Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 07:12:07 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 07:24:12 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 20, 2025, 07:50:09 AM
Post by: MeepDog on March 20, 2025, 07:56:59 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 08:00:34 AM
These are cameras that have been shot, smashed, dumped in water holes or just flat out stolen. Owning your own slice of heaven can be a nightmare at times.
Post by: MeepDog on March 20, 2025, 08:04:55 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 08:22:26 AM
Post by: pd on March 20, 2025, 08:31:43 AM
Owning your own slice of heaven can be a nightmare at times.
Pro tip for those who dream of buying hunting property.
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 08:57:53 AM
If people just walked through it would be one thing but they park vehicles off road, leave trash, make fire pits, leave gates open, trash my cameras, ride mini bikes, full sized motorcycles, side by sides and full sized vehicles on a private road that is closed to motorized vehicles.
I caught one guy on a Honda 90. “There weren’t even any sheds back here some jerk came in here on a tracked side by side and got them before we could get in here, someone should write that guy a ticket.” Really?! Because they trespassed before you did?!
they shoot deer or elk on my place because “it’s really close to DNR” or they were “on DNR when they shot the deer that was on private”.
I don’t know that those sheds came from my place but also don’t know that they didn’t come from my place.
I could go in two or three guided hunts a year with the money I pay each year in property taxes and instead I deal with jack wagons trespassing.
Post by: Feathernfurr on March 20, 2025, 09:09:22 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 09:25:23 AM
Can you gate the road?It is gated, one end is locked the other is not.
Post by: Feathernfurr on March 20, 2025, 09:30:37 AM
Post by: pd on March 20, 2025, 09:55:17 AM
I could go in two or three guided hunts a year with the money I pay each year in property taxes and instead I deal with jack wagons trespassing.
I can feel your pain, Sir. As Feathernfurr said, I am not sure what the solution (if any) is.
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 10:49:16 AM
It’s just frustrating to see guys in there pushing animals before the antlers drop and before snow melts and new green forage comes up.
Post by: LDennis24 on March 20, 2025, 11:10:34 AM
The reality is that its abused constantly because LEO simply can't handle it properly. Calling them does nothing anymore because they have to choose between your property rights or going to the domestic violence episode over who took the last hit of fentanyl and obviously they are not coming to your place. :dunno: But the corner crossing ruling will surely solve all of this kind of stuff. They will start going to those places now and stop trespassing for a short cut to the public land. I have faith.
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2025, 11:41:30 AM
Mini bike also on private property and behind a gate.
A sapling bent back that swipes the road horizontally when triggered would make for some fun trail cam footage of that guy on the bike. Legal implications aside of course!
Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2025, 11:46:25 AM
Mini bike also on private property and behind a gate.
A sapling bent back that swipes the road horizontally when triggered would make for some fun trail cam footage of that guy on the bike. Legal implications aside of course!
They make really cool bear deterrence devices that would be fun as well.....for both walking and bike trespassers. :chuckle: :chuckle: 180 decibel flash bang!! :yike: :yike:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 20, 2025, 12:05:30 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 20, 2025, 12:32:39 PM
There is a sign every 100 yards in most places and every 25 yards in others. Most every guest that I have had up to my place has asked what my sign budget is because it is so heavily posted. From the spot the guy with the sheds is standing you can see 9 signs that say access by written permission only which we grant to a lot of people. That is another that people have mentioned, “why are there so many signs right here?” Because this is one of the highest trespassed areas.
I remarked about your sign budget because it is so thoroughly posted.
We'd stop at a few random spots just to exercise the sign count. It was typically 4-5 visible signs from a given spot.
Trespassers suck.
Post by: RC on March 20, 2025, 12:57:31 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on March 20, 2025, 01:17:56 PM
Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2025, 01:22:28 PM
Wouldn't suprise me if these are people you've given access to in the past, even years ago. I've talked to many landowners that justifiably complain about giving access to someone one time, and then that person (and all their friends and family) assumes that you are now BFFs and have access 24/7 year round to do whatever they want on your property for the rest of their life. :bdid:
This is easily remedied with a yearly contract with signatures. Contract that clearly states date / timeframe in which the person is allowed on the property. Then has a set of initials that clearly states:
1. Outside of those dates w/out further signed permission would be considered trespassing.
2. who...with names is allowed to "accompany" the signer.
3. etc. etc. etc.
That would remove all doubt and assumptions that folks may make.
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 01:47:33 PM
Exactly. We have that covered. I have a contract with rules for use of the property, I list what parcels they have access to and what season archery muzzy or modern. They also sign a release of liability if they get hurt on my property. After signing they get a colored laminated card granting permission with their name on it, what parcels they are allowed on and what season. 2020 was yellow cards, 2021 blue and so on. Card also has year but if you have the correct color for the year and run into someone who says they have permission they better have the same color. If you have a card you are more inclined to run off those that don’t.Wouldn't suprise me if these are people you've given access to in the past, even years ago. I've talked to many landowners that justifiably complain about giving access to someone one time, and then that person (and all their friends and family) assumes that you are now BFFs and have access 24/7 year round to do whatever they want on your property for the rest of their life. :bdid:
This is easily remedied with a yearly contract with signatures. Contract that clearly states date / timeframe in which the person is allowed on the property. Then has a set of initials that clearly states:
1. Outside of those dates w/out further signed permission would be considered trespassing.
2. who...with names is allowed to "accompany" the signer.
3. etc. etc. etc.
That would remove all doubt and assumptions that folks may make.
If you have a bunch of land everyone knows who you are and tosses your name around like they are best friends with you.
It’s really fun to run into people who say yeah I know Rainier10 but I forgot my card. Oh really, do you know him well? Yep went to school with him. Uh… I didn’t go to school with you. Uh oh, you’re actually Rainier10 aren’t you? Yep, get off my property.
Post by: boneaddict on March 20, 2025, 02:46:36 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 03:37:27 PM
I wonder if some of your problem is because of historical areas. I mean I used to shed hunt the heck out of that area, and I was not alone. Some big shed hunters like littlefoot, and his kids were in the hood. I’m not saying that makes it right. I quit even going into the area as I didn’t want to trespass. I wonder if they look at you as a “newcomer” California type, so screw you. Eastsiders are sometimes peculiar that way. Open land that is now claimedFor sure it’s what they’ve done for years. Not only that many of them have aged out but tell newcomers go up this road out this gate up this ridge, hunting used to be really good up there. The first couple of years I was way more lenient but over the years you just get sick of the way people trash your place and it’s just not worth the hassle of allowing access.
Post by: bearhunter99 on March 20, 2025, 04:14:32 PM
It’s really fun to run into people who say yeah I know Rainier10 but I forgot my card. Oh really, do you know him well? Yep went to school with him. Uh… I didn’t go to school with you. Uh oh, you’re actually Rainier10 aren’t you? Yep, get off my property.
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I get that all the time.
Who gave you permission to be here?
"So and so did"
when?
"about a month ago"
Can you let me know how you contacted him? Grandpa has been gone since 2012 and I sure would love to talk to him again... (that usually produces a deer in the headlights look) :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2025, 04:56:47 PM
I should probably add that I shed hunted and big game hunted that land for twenty years before it came up for sale. It was for sale for two years before I finally bought it. Anyone and everyone could have bought it before I did.I wonder if some of your problem is because of historical areas. I mean I used to shed hunt the heck out of that area, and I was not alone. Some big shed hunters like littlefoot, and his kids were in the hood. I’m not saying that makes it right. I quit even going into the area as I didn’t want to trespass. I wonder if they look at you as a “newcomer” California type, so screw you. Eastsiders are sometimes peculiar that way. Open land that is now claimedFor sure it’s what they’ve done for years. Not only that many of them have aged out but tell newcomers go up this road out this gate up this ridge, hunting used to be really good up there. The first couple of years I was way more lenient but over the years you just get sick of the way people trash your place and it’s just not worth the hassle of allowing access.
Post by: Caveman123 on March 22, 2025, 10:21:57 PM