Post by: seth30 on April 28, 2025, 07:44:21 AM
Post by: Longfield1 on April 28, 2025, 08:14:22 AM
I assume your buddies are all talking about a single pin adjustable sight and not a single pin fixed? If its fixed, I have never used one and don't know much about them.
Post by: seth30 on April 28, 2025, 08:40:58 AM
Clear sight picture is the biggest difference that i like. I have a dual pin spot hog that is like a happy medium between a single pin and a 3-5 pin setup. I like how i can shoot all the way to 40 yards without having to adjust anything if there isn't time but that if i can range i can even get a more accurate yardage to dial to which makes me feel more confident in my shot process. One caveat that i would take a good look at is if you range and animal and dial then the animal moves your going to either have to let down and range again or just adjust based on if they moved further or closer away. Also in the same scenario, say you ranged and didn't even get a shot, you have to remember to reset your dial back to what you practice with (my top pin is 20 yards and bottom pin is 35 yards). Otherwise if you go for a no range shot and you didn't reset your sight you are gonna miss and your going to swear off adjustable forever.sorry they are running adjustable
I assume your buddies are all talking about a single pin adjustable sight and not a single pin fixed? If its fixed, I have never used one and don't know much about them.
Post by: vandeman17 on April 28, 2025, 09:08:15 AM
Post by: seth30 on April 28, 2025, 10:34:08 AM
I had a single pin slider for a couple years and like mentioned, the biggest thing that I liked was the clear sight picture and only having one pin to focus on when shooting. Its great for target shooting and pretty good for stand hunting but I switched back to a standard 5 pin with a floater. In a real world hunting application, especially on the ground, there is a good chance that you won't be able to adjust your pin based on a lot of in the moment factors like coming to full draw on an animal before it comes into the opening you ranged and having it change course to a different opening with a completely different range. Very unlikely you can let your draw down, adjust your pin and draw again with much success. I will say that this really only pertains to shots 40 yards or so plus because under that, its not super difficult to just keep your pin set at 30 yards and adjust your hold point accordingly. I left my pin at 30 when practicing and would shoot from 20 to 40 yards so that I got comfortable where to hold.Thats how I was thinking myself as I have had to leave treestands or blinds to go after elk and deer that took a alternate trail. My friends swear by them, but honestly I dont see much of a benefit if you have to move.
Post by: Stein on April 28, 2025, 05:24:40 PM
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Post by: zwickeyman on April 29, 2025, 04:21:09 AM
When still hunting Elk or Deer my pin is always at 30 yards. When spot and stalk my pin is at 50 yards then keep dialing as I get closer
IMHO there are more cons then pros but I still choose single pin because I shoot them better at practice and hunting
Pros:
Clearer sight picture, with a fast bow the pins are too close together for me
Dial to exact yardage so no need to split pins
Cons:
Sometimes cant dial when animal changes distance
Forget to change the pin back ( never done on an animal but have done at practice )
Bottom line is do what works best for you as everyone is different
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 29, 2025, 08:10:23 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 29, 2025, 08:25:00 AM
If 60-65 is your max under hunting conditions you could just delete two pins from your fixed site.
I've done this before and it's easy to get confident with a 20, 40, and 60 pin.
Post by: seth30 on April 29, 2025, 08:37:05 AM
What's your honest maximum effective rangeI can stack arrows at 60 yards, but don't think I have ever taken anything past 45 yards. I will be hunting in South Africa next spring and the hunting will be a combo of blind hunting, and spot and stalk. Some critters freeze like black tails, while others will move stop and repeat. I have a 3d range on my property that some targets are set at 60. Most of the time I hunt black tail and elk from a stand and usually 20 to 30 yard shots. Will be going after Zebra, Gnu, Blesbuck, Warthog, Impala, Spring buck and jackal's. The placement of their vitals is different that ours here, so will have to retrain myself where to shoot as well. on a personal opinion and I mean personal, I doubt I would take a shot past 60 yards as I feel the kinetic energy would be diminished.
If 60-65 is your max under hunting conditions you could just delete two pins from your fixed site.
I've done this before and it's easy to get confident with a 20, 40, and 60 pin.
Post by: seth30 on April 29, 2025, 08:37:41 AM
There's a few advantages and disadvantages and a lot of it will depend on the archer and their style of hunting. Sight picture and the ability to dial to any yardage is an advantage for some signal pin shooters. Spot hogg makes a set of 3 vertical pins called a triple stack that gives you the sight picture of a single pin but the advantage of a multi pin sight.Will look into that sight, never heard of it, and like the idea of a fixed top and bottom.
Post by: seth30 on April 29, 2025, 08:38:56 AM
I use a single adjustable but I think I like it because I shot a stick bow for 30 years and the last 10 years shot point on
When still hunting Elk or Deer my pin is always at 30 yards. When spot and stalk my pin is at 50 yards then keep dialing as I get closer
IMHO there are more cons then pros but I still choose single pin because I shoot them better at practice and hunting
Pros:
Clearer sight picture, with a fast bow the pins are too close together for me
Dial to exact yardage so no need to split pins
Cons:
Sometimes cant dial when animal changes distance
Forget to change the pin back ( never done on an animal but have done at practice )
Bottom line is do what works best for you as everyone is different
I can see in the heat of the moment forgetting to either dial it, or forgetting to factory reset after :chuckle:
Post by: seth30 on April 29, 2025, 08:40:47 AM
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Post by: OltHunter on April 29, 2025, 11:47:53 AM
I switched from a 5-pin fixed years ago because I really struggled to differentiate between the pins; my eyes just couldn't focus right. I went to a 2-pin Spot Hogg Fast Eddie and it improved my accuracy tenfold. I did learn during elk season that the 2-pin was a little tougher for hunting. I've recently moved to the triple stack Spot Hogg Boonie and feel like it's the sweet spot. I can accurately dial to 125 yards for 3D, or I can have pins set at 20, 35, and 45ish for hunting. I'm excited to run it this hunting season! One thing I've learned in all my years hunting is that you do have time to range and adjust your sight; I've always felt hurried but it was in my head.
This is almost my exact situation except 5 pin. I ended up going green 019 green 019 yellow 019 green 010 green 010.
Ideally I'd like a 4 pin and have my 3 019 pins and the 010 for the slider.
I found having horizontal pins for reference better for me than a better sight picture double pin vertical.
I think it's all user preference.
Post by: hughjorgan on May 01, 2025, 12:32:09 PM
Thank you everyone of the valuable insight! Mid next month will be heading to the local bow shop to get some 125 grain fixed blade broad heads and new arrows. Will look at your recommendations on some you tube videos and may purchase a new sight or stick with my current one. Just got a forearm tattoo, so testing this bow in the next few days will not be happening :chuckle:
Might want to check out option archery sights, kind of spendy but you get the option of a single pin or multiple in one sight….
https://optionarchery.com/collections/sights/products/new-s-series-option-sights
Post by: NOCK NOCK on May 16, 2025, 07:07:20 PM
Thank you everyone of the valuable insight! Mid next month will be heading to the local bow shop to get some 125 grain fixed blade broad heads and new arrows. Will look at your recommendations on some you tube videos and may purchase a new sight or stick with my current one. Just got a forearm tattoo, so testing this bow in the next few days will not be happening :chuckle:
Might want to check out option archery sights, kind of spendy but you get the option of a single pin or multiple in one sight….
https://optionarchery.com/collections/sights/products/new-s-series-option-sights
This is what Im running on my new bow. Love it so far. 3 pin fixed that folds out of the way for a 1 pin slider.
Post by: Bows4huntn on May 16, 2025, 08:30:01 PM