Post by: billythekidrock on June 28, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
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He spotted it from the truck at about 300 yards so we stopped and took a few pics and watched him for a couple minutes before trying to get closer.
We drove partway and then walked with the wind in our face, but we never found him again. I think he heard/saw the rig and took off.
Post by: actionshooter on June 28, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
Did you check the collar for a phone number? :chuckle:
Post by: billythekidrock on June 28, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Ya know, we tried. I tried to convince my brother to walk all the way around but he wanted to drive. :bash:
Post by: actionshooter on June 28, 2009, 06:02:32 PM
lol
Ya know, we tried. I tried to convince my brother to walk all the way around but he wanted to drive. :bash:
A few years ago he would have tried................
Post by: billythekidrock on June 28, 2009, 06:39:22 PM
lol
Ya know, we tried. I tried to convince my brother to walk all the way around but he wanted to drive. :bash:
A few years ago he would have tried................
Yea, or a few weeks from now with a bow in his hand....then he would have listened. :chuckle:
Post by: Kain on June 28, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on June 28, 2009, 07:11:09 PM
Post by: Kain on June 28, 2009, 07:17:20 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on June 28, 2009, 07:31:06 PM
It probably has more to do with timber damage and the Black Bear Project.
Post by: winston2789 on June 28, 2009, 07:57:49 PM
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Post by: h2ofowlr on June 28, 2009, 11:02:35 PM
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Post by: stringflinger4elk on June 29, 2009, 07:59:01 AM
I'd post a photo on here but I am still new to this as far as getting pictures on here for posts. but if anyone could give the quick and dirty of it then I will give it a try later.
cool photo what time of day was it you saw this guy?
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Ok I figuerd out how you guys do it finally but there it is my first pic post
I was trying to make it bigger without messing it up feel free to school me I have never posted pics like this before so it has been a challenge but now i get it sort of.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 29, 2009, 08:05:58 AM
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Post by: billythekidrock on June 29, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
Today I called F&W to see if they could give me any info if I told them where it was. The receptionist is some guy who is not all there, but eventually he forwarded me to D. Mortorrello (sp?) and I got his machine. I left a message but didn't hear back.
Post by: bow4elk on June 29, 2009, 04:46:10 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 29, 2009, 06:04:02 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on June 29, 2009, 07:28:48 PM
They typically colar the bears that have been relocated. It may have been a bear trapped in a residential area and taken up to the woods. If it returns to the area they put it down.
The way I understand it, they typically ear tag nuisance bears.
This bear and the ones bow4elk has pics of are way too close to residential areas to have been nuisance bears and released.
Like I said before....
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Since it is on public land and I know they have had a fairly aggressive collaring program, I doubt he was a problem bear. It probably has more to do with timber damage and the Black Bear Project.
Post by: bow4elk on June 29, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 30, 2009, 12:58:00 PM
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AHHH !!! Alien Bear!!
Illegal Alien? Quick, call DHS! Terrorist! Terrorist! Migrant worker picking berries! Has he got a green card? :rolleyes:
-Steve
Post by: billythekidrock on July 01, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
Even though I knew the answer, I asked if these were nuisance bears or part of an active study. Of course it was not a nuisance bear. He said that there is not a lot of info he can share right now since they need 3-4 years worth of data to make any conclusive findings.
He did say that they were surprised to find that the CF bears home ranges were much smaller then the bears in the Cascade range.
He also told me that they have 10 or 11 collared bears in the CF.
Post by: uncoolperson on July 01, 2009, 08:45:26 PM
Way cool sighting.
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 01, 2009, 09:52:53 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 06, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
He told me that they caught that bear on June 10th a “mile or two” from where we saw it and that it was about 135 lbs. (the other bio said 122lbs).
He confirmed that there are about 11 bears in the CF with collars and that they captured 6 bears in a 20-day period this June. They have collared 25-30 bears in the last few years. The largest was 365 lbs a couple years ago and it just lost its collar earlier this year.
Hunting is affecting the age class and the majority are young bears. He wants to cut back on hunting and to “get back to what it was”.
The average home range is 28 sq kilometers for sows and 45-50 kilometers for boars. The bears do not seem to cross the highways on three sides, yet they seem to filter in from the NW. This apparently goes along with a study done south of the CF in that the bears down there did not cross to the North.
The only thing I didn’t understand or really agree with was that he figured there were only 40 bears in the CF. I asked if he meant carrying capacity for 40 or an actual count of 40 and he said “40 bears”. I guess I am pretty lucky to see a couple a year up there if there are only 40. Who knows? With the average home range being what it is, maybe I am seeing sign from single bears when I thought it might be multiple?
When asked about timber damage he said that they are learning that the feeding programs may not be the way to go. Feeding the bears keeps them healthy, healthy bears have more young, more bears damage more trees. They think that more hunting opportunities may be a better solution.
When asked if there was anything that hunters could do to help out he stated, “Get the word out” that they are doing a study. He also said to let everyone know that it is legal to shoot a collared bear or tagged bears and that he “doesn’t lose sleep” about people shooting them. He knows that is part of the deal. He also said that they do lose their tags or collars and that hunters should check inside the upper lip for tattoos. They used to only tattoo above the right canine, but now it can be on either side of the upper lip.
Post by: saylean on July 06, 2009, 05:52:53 PM
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Post by: bow4elk on July 06, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 07, 2009, 06:10:57 AM
Great info. Like I said, I have four different bears on camera and a sow with three cubs (last year). IF there are only 40 bears, then I've got 8 on my four trailcams. I've spoken with this same guy (last year). I didn't know they were collaring more this summer. They did 10 last summer and I was hoping to help out with that effort. I didn't have time.
That is kinda what I told him. I mentioned "a couple guys with pics" (you and another site member) along with the couple I got on tcam. That is about a dozen on camera or :dunno: 25% :dunno: of the total population.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 07, 2009, 09:43:54 AM