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Title: Any buck clarification
Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 12, 2025, 11:47:33 PM
The regs say "visible antlers" at least 1" on the long side. Ok so this evening I saw one with about a 2" button. But there was only 1. Not both sides. So, shooter? Just curious
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Kingofthemountain83 on November 13, 2025, 05:05:16 AM
I'd say yes... If we see one like that today he's probably hitting dirt...
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: hunter399 on November 13, 2025, 05:11:52 AM
I'd say yes... If we see one like that today he's probably hitting dirt...
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Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: bhawley76 on November 13, 2025, 06:15:34 AM
I'm sure he probably identifies as a 5x5  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Mike450r on November 13, 2025, 07:24:51 AM
I don't want to look at the regs right now but my recollection is for any buck the visible antler just had to be visible above the hairline with no length requirement.  Meaning a nub that you can see is antler not still covered by hair is a legal buck.

The length requirement was 1" to be a legal antler point in the point minimum areas.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 13, 2025, 07:31:08 AM
I don't want to look at the regs right now but my recollection is for any buck the visible antler just had to be visible above the hairline with no length requirement.  Meaning a nub that you can see is antler not still covered by hair is a legal buck.

The length requirement was 1" to be a legal antler point in the point minimum areas.

Correct, was just going to type this exact same thing, you just beat me to it...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: 92xj on November 13, 2025, 08:02:16 AM
I don’t see any talk of hair covering an antler in the regs. 
An antler point must be at least one inch long measured on the longest side. 
Any buck is any deer with a visible antler.
To me, a button buck, with at least one inch long buttons, that are still hair covered is considered a legal “any buck”, even if there is as only a single button showing. 
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Mike450r on November 13, 2025, 08:22:38 AM
I don’t see any talk of hair covering an antler in the regs. 
An antler point must be at least one inch long measured on the longest side. 
Any buck is any deer with a visible antler.
To me, a button buck, with at least one inch long buttons, that are still hair covered is considered a legal “any buck”, even if there is as only a single button showing.

The legal definition of antler is where you will find that it is a horn like growth projecting above the hairline, if the antler has not broken through the hair it is not by legal definition an antler.  This of course does not apply to velvet. 

Length has nothing to do with legal antler except in point minimum areas.  A button that is seen as a horn like growth above the hairline can essentially be flat and still be a legal buck.  Legal antler and legal antler points are defined separately.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: 92xj on November 13, 2025, 08:38:04 AM
Found it. I thought I was going crazy for a minute
Under any buck / bull

So, what’s the definition of hairline?    I still think an over one inch button buck is still legal as the button sticks above the hairline.   
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 13, 2025, 01:22:31 PM
So why not just make it a branched antler deer 2 point or better simple answer. That way you are getting enough meat than shooting something larger that the neighbors dog.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Twispriver on November 13, 2025, 03:46:21 PM
I think of button bucks as fawns and legal as antlerless but not antlered.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: dreadi on November 13, 2025, 07:18:32 PM
Legal enough.

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Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: JWBINX on November 13, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
So why not just make it a branched antler deer 2 point or better simple answer. That way you are getting enough meat than shooting something larger that the neighbors dog.

 :tup:
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: jason stevens on November 13, 2025, 08:04:27 PM
Legal enough.

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Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: jason stevens on November 13, 2025, 08:06:11 PM
I agree with a 2 point minimum on the west side bit I also agree with shoot any legal deer. I believe it's up to the hunter ad long as the rules are followed. Who are we to judge what others think is a good harvest
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Kingofthemountain83 on November 13, 2025, 08:25:13 PM
I shot a spike in Mason 3 years ago and got 57# of boneless meat... Was delicious! I think he was older than 1 1/2... Didn't get him aged...
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: brokentrail on November 14, 2025, 12:32:47 PM
So why not just make it a branched antler deer 2 point or better simple answer. That way you are getting enough meat than shooting something larger that the neighbors dog.

Because the law says he doesn't have to and everyone has a different level of success, experience, and what they want out of their hunt.  If you want to use a 2 pt minimum for yourself, great, you do you. 
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: hunter399 on November 14, 2025, 01:31:08 PM
So why not just make it a branched antler deer 2 point or better simple answer. That way you are getting enough meat than shooting something larger that the neighbors dog.

Because the law says he doesn't have to and everyone has a different level of success, experience, and what they want out of their hunt.  If you want to use a 2 pt minimum for yourself, great, you do you.
If it's legal ,then eat it up.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Tball77 on November 14, 2025, 09:48:46 PM
Hate to start the argument but a spike is a spike and a button. Buck is another.  A spike was a button buck a year ago that didn’t have the genetics to branch.  Many of you have harvested sheds from the deer you harvested and they are replicas of the prior years antlers.  A 2x3 always just that.  A spike, we’ll always a spike.  Those that choose to harvest a 2 yo 4pt are harvesting the future studs.  My personal thought,  if you go to a trophy state do one of 2 things.  Shoot an absolute toad, or take an inferior gened animal.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: brokentrail on November 15, 2025, 10:49:36 AM
Hate to start the argument but a spike is a spike and a button. Buck is another.  A spike was a button buck a year ago that didn’t have the genetics to branch.  Many of you have harvested sheds from the deer you harvested and they are replicas of the prior years antlers.  A 2x3 always just that.  A spike, we’ll always a spike.  Those that choose to harvest a 2 yo 4pt are harvesting the future studs.  My personal thought,  if you go to a trophy state do one of 2 things.  Shoot an absolute toad, or take an inferior gened animal.

While I don't think you are starting an argument, your facts, based on proven science, are incorrect. A spike is not always a spike. 
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: Mike450r on November 15, 2025, 05:23:55 PM
Hate to start the argument but a spike is a spike and a button. Buck is another.  A spike was a button buck a year ago that didn’t have the genetics to branch.  Many of you have harvested sheds from the deer you harvested and they are replicas of the prior years antlers.  A 2x3 always just that.  A spike, we’ll always a spike.  Those that choose to harvest a 2 yo 4pt are harvesting the future studs.  My personal thought,  if you go to a trophy state do one of 2 things.  Shoot an absolute toad, or take an inferior gened animal.

While I don't think you are starting an argument, your facts, based on proven science, are incorrect. A spike is not always a spike.

Not facts if incorrect, just an opinion.  Fact is spikes do not always stay spikes.  Watched too many deer go through their entire life cycle to believe that as nothing more than nonsense.  There are genetic 2 pts that stay that way, same with 3's and 4's etc...  They all started as spikes in my neck of the woods though.
Title: Re: Any buck clarification
Post by: EnglishSetter on November 15, 2025, 06:19:01 PM
Hate to start the argument but a spike is a spike and a button. Buck is another.  A spike was a button buck a year ago that didn’t have the genetics to branch.  Many of you have harvested sheds from the deer you harvested and they are replicas of the prior years antlers.  A 2x3 always just that.  A spike, we’ll always a spike.  Those that choose to harvest a 2 yo 4pt are harvesting the future studs.  My personal thought,  if you go to a trophy state do one of 2 things.  Shoot an absolute toad, or take an inferior gened animal.

While I don't think you are starting an argument, your facts, based on proven science, are incorrect. A spike is not always a spike.


Not facts if incorrect, just an opinion.  Fact is spikes do not always stay spikes.  Watched too many deer go through their entire life cycle to believe that as nothing more than nonsense.  There are genetic 2 pts that stay that way, same with 3's and 4's etc...  They all started as spikes in my neck of the woods though.

Ya.  Many bucks don't branch the 1st year, but do subsequently.  They may have spikes approximating the length of their ears. We would call them "cow horn spikes" as they generally curved.

I've heard the term "Y buck" for a buck that never branched to more than 2 points though with considerable mass.

Oh...and shoot any legal buck you want to shoot. 
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