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Title: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 13, 2009, 04:32:49 PM: For several years I've been using 4" vanes which are offset by 4 degrees on my arrows. I've got the bow tuned very well and I am satisfied with arrow flight and speed. That being said, my vanes are getting to be in bad enough shape that I need to have them replaced. Since I use a WB rest (which I'm not interested in changing at this time) I'm wondering if I ought to change up my vanes to something shorter than 4" and whether to have them offset again or have them set straight. Also, how much should I expect to pay to have new vanes put on? :dunno:
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Todd_ID on July 13, 2009, 06:18:25 PM: A quick shot with a heat gun or hair dryer should get the vanes to come back to their original state. Otherwise, if you like what you've got, then stick with it unless you just want to change for the sake of change. There's nothing wrong with Blazers, too. I don't know the price of fletching since I've always done my own, sorry.
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Crunchy on July 13, 2009, 06:37:27 PM: Ive heard that dipping vanes in near boiling water does the trick also..
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 13, 2009, 07:26:20 PM: I'm not just talking about the vanes getting the wavy appearance (which I have fixed in the past with a blow dryer), I'm talking about the fact that they have been shot so many times they are getting tears in the material and I've actually taken the scissors to some places to cut away tears so they don't catch in the WB. There is no question they are in need of replacement.

I suspect the straight vanes will fair better over time in the WB (not to mention the WB itself) and I would guess I'd gain a little in speed, but I wonder whether those benefits would be a good trade off for lack of arrow spin. What do you think? :dunno:
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 13, 2009, 08:54:35 PM: I would shoot 2 in blazers personally, expecially out of a WB, also refletching shoulkd be about a buck an arrow
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: bowhuntin on July 13, 2009, 10:47:27 PM: Quote from: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 13, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
I would shoot 2 in blazers personally, expecially out of a WB, also refletching shoulkd be about a buck an arrow
:yeah:
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 14, 2009, 09:12:15 AM: Quote from: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 13, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
I would shoot 2 in blazers personally, expecially out of a WB, also refletching shoulkd be about a buck an arrow
Wow, that's much cheaper than I would have guessed. Does the arrow spine, length or weight matter when deciding between 2" and 4" vanes? I've heard a lot of recommendations for Blazers--what is the benefit to that particular brand?
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Todd_ID on July 14, 2009, 10:57:07 PM: The packaging that they come in describes the benefits to Blazers: lighter (faster), less profile (wind drift), better undisturbed air access (taller), stiffer (less prone to Biscuit breakdown and flutterring in flight). Yeah, they work.
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: xXx Archery on July 15, 2009, 08:17:47 AM: Quote from: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 13, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
I would shoot 2 in blazers personally, expecially out of a WB, also refletching shoulkd be about a buck an arrow

WOW a buck a arrow...you can come work for me....
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on July 15, 2009, 08:25:40 AM: At a buck an arrow, why am I doing my own? :dunno: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 15, 2009, 08:36:34 AM: i was thinking more like 2.50 or 3 bucks an arrow.
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 15, 2009, 08:40:36 AM: Quote from: xXx Archery on July 15, 2009, 08:17:47 AM
Quote from: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 13, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
I would shoot 2 in blazers personally, expecially out of a WB, also refletching shoulkd be about a buck an arrow

WOW a buck a arrow...you can come work for me....
It's a long drive to Longview for me so can you make it $.50 each for me, please? :chuckle:

Thanks for the tips, guys. I'll be looking at the blazers for replacement. :)
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: dreamingbig on July 15, 2009, 11:44:18 AM: And after you get them refletched with Blazers, you should get a new rest. I know you said you were not interested in changing but the performance of a drop/fall away rest is worth it!
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 15, 2009, 11:58:11 AM: Quote from: dreamingbig on July 15, 2009, 11:44:18 AM
And after you get them refletched with Blazers, you should get a new rest. I know you said you were not interested in changing but the performance of a drop/fall away rest is worth it!
I have a replacement WB insert that I will change out to when the new vanes are on. That should last me another 3 seasons or so. After that I'll probably upgrade to a better bow, a fall away rest and another set of arrows. :)
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 12:08:37 PM: I dont recall how much it was when I was working, but I think alum were just over a buck and carbon were 2 or so to refletch.. still cheap
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: tmike on July 21, 2009, 08:14:00 AM: I just paid $3 an arrow, must have been for all the extra glue :bash: It wasn't any shop off this site
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: KillBilly on July 21, 2009, 08:23:21 AM: You might want to consider putting some wraps on your shafts before you refletch. They will allow greated adhesion for the new fletches and provide higher visibility when looking for you arrows.
Title: Re: Offset vanes with a Whisker Biscuit?
Post by: Dipsnort on July 21, 2009, 02:26:06 PM: I ended up buying a dozen new arrows with Blazer vanes and am VERY pleased at how they are flying! I wished I had taken my camera when I came across the 80 yard target and put 1 arrow damn near the bullseye and the other 4 surrounding the bullseye within 8". A little luck involved for sure, but those arrows flew very nicely all day. I didn't even know that my bow would shoot 80 yards. :IBCOOL: And things got even better when I removed the stabilizer and found that I could hold steadier on the target and the results were great.