Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 12:27:37 PM
The gear- from the boat or the bank my gear does not really change.... I like a rod at least 8.5.... I use 9ft lami classic glass rods from both boat and shore, they have a great action, and a good back bone. I like the longer rods in the boat so I can spread out the lines just that much more, running 6 rods in heavy current can get tricky. from the boat I use 30lb power pro main with 15lb maxima leader, I use Okuma reels but any salmon/steelhead baitcaster will be just fine. From shore I use 20lb main and 15 lb leader.. both mono. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg204.imageshack.us%2Fimg204%2F7513%2Fepic008.jpg&hash=b0a2b25e5863a514d7ea093a90ea5eb539932a44)
Set up- I use small swivles for the dropper and main line, I use 2-3 large beads to seperate the 2. The dropper is from 1.5-3 ft depending on the depth and current
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from that I use a 4-6 ft leader with either a small spin/glo or small orange spinner, I use a double 2/0 owner hook set up with about 1 in between the hooks.
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The key to this fishery is sizing down the baits and more importantly the bait/scent itself..... bait is the key IMO... 2 years ago on the bank myself and 3 buddies landed 26 steelhead.... 3 of us were using bait, one was not, we all fished the exact same part of the water and the 3 of us that had bait landed 23 of those fish..... thats about as much proof as I need. The bait I use is a red/pink coon prawn.... I cure my own but the store bought works just as well... I also use a variety of scents, I rarely ever put one in the water without scent on it, but they do work without it as well. I start by taking the back hook through the top of the back (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg200.imageshack.us%2Fimg200%2F1003%2Fepic010.jpg&hash=ddbaeb854956d29d62954ffdc7c79913a64b9b24)
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Then I begin to wrap the bait and lay the front hook facing up o the head of the prawn, I then wrap back to the tail and make sure the bait is laying flat on the hooks..
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then toss it out and wait until the rod goes down!! Here are a few of my fav scents I like to use and a pic of my sled..... hope this helps and hopefully I can get some of you guys out for this great fishery!! (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg521.imageshack.us%2Fimg521%2F1430%2Fepic014.jpg&hash=095395098f28cb7c9b7235e1d6b3e3441d8a5148)
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Post by: tlbradford on July 15, 2009, 02:33:16 PM
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Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
good stuff.
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 15, 2009, 03:11:18 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 03:44:03 PM
are they anchored on the bottom? so you just cast and let it sit?
good stuff.
yes the weight needs to be sitting on the bottom, otherwise your not fishing effectively.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 03:45:14 PM
Have you ever tried a three way swivel at the first point and then come off with a dropper, a bait hook, and a plug as the upper bait. I have used that set-up when plunking or using a planar on the Cowlitz. That was always a winter run set-up though. If the current is too strong you need a huge weight to keep it in place. That is the downside.
I have not tried that, the current is always very fast, its almost to fast to even get a K8 to fish right.
Post by: fishcrazy on July 15, 2009, 06:14:35 PM
Kris
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on July 15, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
At the dam i run bright S-N-G's in green or orange Mylar wings.
Down river i run blue with mylar but this year Orange tiger with Black wings has been my go to. I have taken home a fish every trip this year.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 15, 2009, 10:03:38 PM
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Post by: fishunt247 on July 17, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
I'm running a single hook- 1/0 Gamakatsu- running the hook through the meat and out the front of the head without a SpinGlo or spinner. I've experimented with the double hook set up similar to how you showed and ended up just hooking them with the upper hook anyway. I don't miss many bites, but how often do you hook a fish on just the back hook alone? With the single hook, the shrimp stay curled, spinning and waving from side to side. Do yours have action when they are straight as well? Also, sometimes I have an issue with the hoods on the shrimp popping out. Would a few wraps of thread keep that from happening? Thanks.
Post by: fishcrazy on July 17, 2009, 08:07:54 PM
Post by: A4effort on July 20, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 21, 2009, 02:35:34 PM
Hoyt--
I'm running a single hook- 1/0 Gamakatsu- running the hook through the meat and out the front of the head without a SpinGlo or spinner. I've experimented with the double hook set up similar to how you showed and ended up just hooking them with the upper hook anyway. I don't miss many bites, but how often do you hook a fish on just the back hook alone? With the single hook, the shrimp stay curled, spinning and waving from side to side. Do yours have action when they are straight as well? Also, sometimes I have an issue with the hoods on the shrimp popping out. Would a few wraps of thread keep that from happening? Thanks.
I use 2 hooks due to losing quite a few fish on a single...... today we landed 6 in about 2 hours..... 4 of the 6 were on the back hook only..... thats enough for me!
Post by: fishunt247 on July 21, 2009, 03:47:40 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on July 21, 2009, 03:52:26 PM
Kris
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on July 21, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
Post by: fishunt247 on July 23, 2009, 09:11:40 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on July 23, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
Are you running them curled for steelhead on anchor? Or are you running them while trolling for salmon? I would tend to run them with a curl for trolling for Salmon and uncurled and not spinning when Back trolling or on anchor.
Kris
Post by: fishunt247 on July 23, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on July 24, 2009, 08:08:23 PM
I always like to see other things and ways of doing things. One more thing to try for me when I get my boat going. Their is never a wrong way of doing things. LOL Just different ways. I was taught to run them straight when on anchor but now I will have something els to experiment with. :) I am always trying new ways of doing things.
Kris