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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Machias on July 15, 2009, 07:43:39 PM

Title: Twist
Post by: Machias on July 15, 2009, 07:43:39 PM: A few years ago I got two CVA Mountain Stalkers in the .54 cal. With the powerbelt bullets they were sweet shooting guns. Sadly I need to replace both barrels. I found out CVA sold their inventory to Deer Creek Products in Waldron, IN. I got a hold of Deer Creek and they have American made barrels that will fit my Mountain Stalkers but only in the .50, which is fine, but the old barrels had the 1:24 twist and these will have ....I think he said 1:40 (does that sound right or is it 1:48?) Either way what can I expect with the slower twist? Thanks for any thoughts.
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: Pat/Rick on July 15, 2009, 09:06:20 PM: 1;48 is a pretty standard rate of twist for muzzleloaders. Its kind of an in between rate.Fast enough to stabilize most conical bullets, and slow enough to stabilize roundballs. It's a do it all rate of twist, kinda like modified choke in a shotgun ,it does it all okay. My Lyman Trade Rifle has 1:48 and I am quite okay with it as is. :) I shoot 400 grain homecast maxi balls in it, on top of 70 grains of pyrodex select. Hope this is a help to you. ;)
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: Machias on July 16, 2009, 09:16:50 AM: Thanks a bunch, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: Gobble on July 16, 2009, 09:23:29 AM: Quote from: Pat/Rick on July 15, 2009, 09:06:20 PM
1;48 is a pretty standard rate of twist for muzzleloaders. Its kind of an in between rate.Fast enough to stabilize most conical bullets, and slow enough to stabilize roundballs. It's a do it all rate of twist, kinda like modified choke in a shotgun ,it does it all okay. My Lyman Trade Rifle has 1:48 and I am quite okay with it as is. :) I shoot 400 grain homecast maxi balls in it, on top of 70 grains of pyrodex select. Hope this is a help to you. ;)

I have the .54 cal Lyman Trade rifle and use the conical bullets. They shoot awesome through it, the 1:48 twist is perfect for the conicals
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: T-Bone on July 18, 2009, 08:40:08 AM: General Rules Of Thumb On Muzzleloader Barrel Twists:

1:66 - Patched round ball; generally will not stabilize a conical or sabot.

1:48 - Conical or a patched round ball; usually best with the conical. Sabots generally don't shoot as well.

1:28 - Sabots or conicals.

Your barrel should have the twist marked on it somewhere. Most in-lines are the 1:28 twist and most traditional muzzleloaders are the 1:66 or 1:48 twists. However, every gun is different and even with the "wrong" rifling twist, it may shoot one or the other bullet or ball very well.

SIGHT IN YOUR GUN WITH THE BULLET YOU INTEND TO HUNT WITH! :bash: Change the bullet and without a doubt, the point of impact will change!
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: Machias on July 18, 2009, 08:52:42 AM: "SIGHT IN YOUR GUN WITH THE BULLET YOU INTEND TO HUNT WITH! :bash: Change the bullet and without a doubt, the point of impact will change!"

:) No need to shout, I happen to agree with you. Why are you getting upset? :dunno:
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: T-Bone on July 18, 2009, 09:05:00 AM: Quote from: Machias on July 18, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
"SIGHT IN YOUR GUN WITH THE BULLET YOU INTEND TO HUNT WITH! :bash: Change the bullet and without a doubt, the point of impact will change!"

:) No need to shout, I happen to agree with you. Why are you getting upset? :dunno:

Don't get your underwear in a knot. :chuckle: The Caps emphasis was for effect only.

Tom
Title: Re: Twist
Post by: Machias on July 18, 2009, 10:07:34 AM: Quote from: T-Bone on July 18, 2009, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Machias on July 18, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
"SIGHT IN YOUR GUN WITH THE BULLET YOU INTEND TO HUNT WITH! :bash: Change the bullet and without a doubt, the point of impact will change!"

:) No need to shout, I happen to agree with you. Why are you getting upset? :dunno:

Don't get your underwear in a knot. :chuckle: The Caps emphasis was for effect only.

Tom

Honest they're not bunched up. :chuckle: :chuckle: