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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: rudedawg1085 on August 04, 2009, 04:05:19 PM

Title: calling wrong?
Post by: rudedawg1085 on August 04, 2009, 04:05:19 PM: So this has happend to me the last 3 times iv seen coyotes....i call and call and call to have a yote come walking on in about 200-250 yards, instead of taking the shot i call again for it to get closer but instead it stops and runs back off into the brush...should you call until you see them and have them come walking in orrrr are you spouse to keep calling?
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Kain on August 04, 2009, 04:48:38 PM: Are you wearing head to toe camo? Is it possible they are seeing you? Coyotes are very good at pinpointing sound so if you are calling they will know the exact location you are at. It might be a shiny gun, your face or hands showing, movement or too much volume. :dunno: You could try lip squeaking or being a little patient.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: ivarhusa on August 04, 2009, 05:13:57 PM: When coyotes are within view, you need to keep sudden or jerky motion to an absolute minimum. Move your hand (with call, I presume) very slowly. Rotate your head very slowly, if turning is required.

Consider a more subtle call, such as a squeaker when coyotes are close. Such are easily heard by a coyote out past 200yds, in calm conditions at least. An additional "squeaker tip" that I got from author Charles Shawley: drill a hole in your bulb type squeaker, such that you have to put your finger over the hole to make it squeak. That will eliminate or greatly reduce the inadvertent squeaks that come at inopportune moments.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: cully on August 04, 2009, 05:51:13 PM: when they get in close just give em a kiss or two or three no need for a squeeker.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Missing on August 04, 2009, 06:13:28 PM: Cully Question?

If you can get close enough to give them a kiss or two wouldn't you just kill em? :yike:

Sorry
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: ivarhusa on August 04, 2009, 06:28:20 PM: Quote from: Missing on August 04, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
Cully Question?

If you can get close enough to give them a kiss or two wouldn't you just kill em? :yike:

Sorry

Excellent! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: cully on August 04, 2009, 07:56:47 PM: I don't let them get close at all :chuckle: If I see em, I'm shooting!

But seriously, you can kiss them into range.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: cully on August 04, 2009, 08:06:55 PM: I change up my calls. Sometimes one will work and another time it will not. It also doesn't seem to matter if I'm perfect sounding or not. The wind and how hidden matters to me the most. When I see them and I have time, I shut up. If they need some incentive, that's when you can kiss them in. Also, sometimes dogs have been "trained" and seem to have another sense. Those really piss me off! :chuckle:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Thehowler on August 04, 2009, 08:22:35 PM: Kissing will stop them sometimes instantly, in perfect view, for an excellent shot!
The first time I tried this I could not believe how well it worked.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Bofire on August 04, 2009, 09:06:37 PM: Inside of 300 yards, if they are moving to me I shut up and let them, if they are headed down wind or hesitating, I squeak em, or some other small sound. If ignorng me I go to pup sounds, pup and pup distress are my most useful sounds. after that birds and high pitched distress.
At 300 or less if they hold up, aint moving for 30-60 seconds, get on em and kill em. coyote kill zone is purty small, if you can hit a 6inch circle, everytime, from hunting positions, shoot.
Carl
( I ain't never killed a coyote so don't ask me) :chuckle:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: rasbo on August 05, 2009, 05:01:23 AM: I always watch whats coming in first.se Idaho usually magpies,when the magpie flares I know what distance a dog might pick me up.I always set up for close encounters.As the dogs are coming in I let them come soon as they notice something,usually they stop and look for a brief moment..that's when I erase their memory.the kiss sound travels a long way.you don't have to kiss your hand like some do....are you skylining yourself??this time of year they don't have to eat as much as when its cold..
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: tlbradford on August 06, 2009, 08:42:02 AM: Quote from: Bofire on August 04, 2009, 09:06:37 PM
Inside of 300 yards, if they are moving to me I shut up and let them, if they are headed down wind or hesitating, I squeak em, or some other small sound.

:yeah:

If they are coming into a call and suddenly turn around and run, then you were busted. Either your vehicle was in sight, they smelled you, or they saw movement.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Bofire on August 06, 2009, 08:54:24 AM: I agree with thbradford, they are busting you.
Carl
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Big10gauge on August 06, 2009, 09:12:42 AM: Shoot them at 200 to 225 yrds and your problem should go away :chuckle:. Once a coyote starts coming in quit calling, they know where the call is coming from. Sometimes they will hold up but usually start coming in again. If not then do some low volume squeaks or whatever. We usually shoot at 250 yrds or less, at which point whenever the opportunity arises. The only time we call them in closer is just to screw with and to piss the shooter off, since there is more chance of a screwup at the closer ranges.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Huntbear on August 06, 2009, 09:14:24 AM: Quote from: cully on August 04, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
when they get in close just give em a kiss or two or three no need for a squeeker.

I've known women like this, :yike: :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: deaddog on August 06, 2009, 03:45:17 PM: Quote from: Huntbear on August 06, 2009, 09:14:24 AM
Quote from: cully on August 04, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
when they get in close just give em a kiss or two or three no need for a squeeker.

I've known women like this, :yike: :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
So does Cully, thats why he kisses coyotes now. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: rasbo on August 06, 2009, 03:56:53 PM: Quote from: deaddog on August 06, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: Huntbear on August 06, 2009, 09:14:24 AM
Quote from: cully on August 04, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
when they get in close just give em a kiss or two or three no need for a squeeker.

I've known women like this, :yike: :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
So does Cully, thats why he kisses coyotes now. :chuckle: :chuckle:
you guys are exciting me :chuckle:
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: Missing on August 06, 2009, 06:42:00 PM: Go ahead Rasbo go out and have a howl'in good time.
Title: Re: calling wrong?
Post by: cully on August 06, 2009, 07:38:27 PM: well that's true, they do bite less!