Post by: wormfood on August 20, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
Post by: halflife65 on August 20, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Also, not real familiar with the spines on your old arrows but is it close to a 340 or did you change your spine? 340 seems correct for the weight that you're pulling...
On the other hand, I didn't have that much luck with Thunderheads, either. I use G5 Montecs or Strikers now but have also tried Shuttle T-Locks with good luck. You'll have to pay a bit more, though.
Post by: grousetracker on August 20, 2009, 07:37:26 PM
Post by: wormfood on August 20, 2009, 07:59:24 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on August 20, 2009, 09:43:06 PM
Post by: halflife65 on August 21, 2009, 06:40:58 AM
As mentioned above, I use the G5 broadheads with great luck (as do the majority of my hunting partners). I think that there are a lot of good broadheads out there...but not as cheap as Thunderheads, unfortunately.
Post by: timmyg on August 21, 2009, 07:38:30 AM
I shoot the Beaman 340 with 100 grain G5. I think if you try the 100 grain broadhead it may be the ticket.
Good luck
Post by: KillBilly on August 21, 2009, 07:40:57 AM
You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 21, 2009, 07:44:32 AM
Quote
I now shoot a 300 spine with a 300 grain broadhead with great results
Is that a typo?
Post by: mossback91 on August 21, 2009, 07:51:29 AM
QuoteI now shoot a 300 spine with a 300 grain broadhead with great results
Is that a typo?
he means serious business man!!!
Post by: Todd_ID on August 21, 2009, 08:04:26 AM
QuoteI now shoot a 300 spine with a 300 grain broadhead with great results
Is that a typo?
he means serious business man!!!
No messing around this year! Them suckers hit like a ton of bricks. In fact, they blow through every one of my 3D targets with field points on broadside shots. The Rinehart 18-1 is the only target I've got that can stop them. 657 grain arrow flying at 239 FPS makes for 83 ft-lbs of KE and enough momentum to blow through whatever I shoot at, and that was the goal. And they shoot like a dream to 60 yards. A nice little bonus is the bow is near silent now, also.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 21, 2009, 08:05:43 AM
Be careful with those Shuttle T-Locks, they are not legal in Washington according to the regs and enforcement.
You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik
wow,
is this still going on? even after trophy taker posted on here to prove that shuttle t are legal as they do angle back to the feather end of the shaft with a smooth and unbroken line.
back to the origional question,
another thing you could try if your arrows are long enough is to cut an inch off of one and try it because this will stiffen up the spine a bit.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 21, 2009, 08:07:09 AM
Holy Crap ToddQuoteI now shoot a 300 spine with a 300 grain broadhead with great results
Is that a typo?
he means serious business man!!!
No messing around this year! Them suckers hit like a ton of bricks. In fact, they blow through every one of my 3D targets with field points on broadside shots. The Rinehart 18-1 is the only target I've got that can stop them. 657 grain arrow flying at 239 FPS makes for 83 ft-lbs of KE and enough momentum to blow through whatever I shoot at, and that was the goal. And they shoot like a dream to 60 yards. A nice little bonus is the bow is near silent now, also.
your broadheads weigh almost as much as my entire arrow!!! heavy arrows do shoot smooth and hit hard!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 21, 2009, 08:08:01 AM
Post by: halflife65 on August 21, 2009, 08:17:15 AM
It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not have a
sharp broadhead, and the broadhead blade
or blades are less than seven-eighths inch
wide.
g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.
The Shuttle T's appear to be perpendicular to the bow in the back (not barbed) and are 1 1/8 wide, so meet the minimum requirement of 7/8 inch. Why are these illegal? The only other thing that I can think of is the shape of the blade? However, I can't find anything that mentions the blade shape at the front of the broadhead (although it obviously can't be barbed on the back of the broadhead.)
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 21, 2009, 08:25:33 AM
I'm not doubting the Shuttle T-Lock comment, I'm just trying to figure out where it came from (fortunately, I actually hunt with G5s and have just used Shuttle Ts in practice, so good to go. I have had good luck with G5s and see no reason to change so not too worried about it - just more of an academic exercise to help me understand the rules a bit better.)
It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not have a
sharp broadhead, and the broadhead blade
or blades are less than seven-eighths inch
wide.
g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.
The Shuttle T's appear to be perpendicular to the bow in the back (not barbed) and are 1 1/8 wide, so meet the minimum requirement of 7/8 inch. Why are these illegal? The only other thing that I can think of is the shape of the blade? However, I can't find anything that mentions the blade shape at the front of the broadhead (although it obviously can't be barbed on the back of the broadhead.)
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,30334.135.html
read this thread, there is a lot of good info.
Post by: halflife65 on August 21, 2009, 08:45:56 AM
I have some comments about the response from the Trophy Taker guy but I don't want to rehash the old thread here.
Post by: wormfood on August 21, 2009, 10:05:22 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on August 21, 2009, 10:22:40 AM
Post by: EastWaViking on August 21, 2009, 10:27:35 AM
hope this helps
Post by: JBar on August 21, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
Be careful with those Shuttle T-Locks, they are not legal in Washington according to the regs and enforcement.
You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik
Holy crap KB! Are we going there again? I thought we had enough proof and testimonials to show this was not true! :jacked: Sorry about the thread Jack!
Post by: Turkeyman on August 23, 2009, 04:36:49 AM
Post by: Titan-1 on August 23, 2009, 03:30:34 PM
Be careful with those Shuttle T-Locks, they are not legal in Washington according to the regs and enforcement.
You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik
I emailed Jerrod Lile from Trophy Taker Mr. Mikitic's number so he can straighten up the miss comunication for Mr. K/B. I will post the results of there conversation when I hear back from him. If it turns out for some reason they are not legal then I guess we will go from there but I doubt it.
Post by: WonkyWapiti on August 23, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Post by: halflife65 on August 24, 2009, 06:50:13 AM
Post by: JBar on August 24, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
Post by: halflife65 on August 25, 2009, 06:27:28 AM
Post by: Titan-1 on August 25, 2009, 07:36:48 PM
State of Washington
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
Mailing Address: 600 Capitol Way N • Olympia, WA 98501-1091 • (360) 902-2200, TDD (360) 902-2207
Main Office Location: Natural Resources Building • 1111 Washington Street SE • Olympia, WA
August 25, 2009
Jerrod Lile
Trophy Taker, Inc
Montana
Dear Jerrod:
Thank you for inquiring about the legality of your Shuttle T-Lock and Terminal T-Lock broadheads for hunting big game in Washington State.
The broadhead rules adopted by our state’s fish and wildlife commission require a cutting diameter no less than seven-eighths inch wide, a blade completely closed at the back end of the blade by a smooth, unbroken surface starting at the maximum blade width forming a smooth line toward the feather end of the shaft, and such line not angling towards the point. Based on the pictures you provided it appears that your broadheads meet all of our described criteria.
Please feel free to share a copy of this letter with your vendors and anybody else who may have questions about the legality of these broadheads for hunting big game in Washington State.
Sincerely,
Mik Mikitik
Hunter Education Division
cc: Lt. Crown
Sgt. Anderson
Post by: JBar on August 26, 2009, 05:01:19 AM
Post by: halflife65 on August 26, 2009, 06:29:58 AM
It's not that I'm married to one particular broadhead and I think that there are a lot of good ones out there. I'm just invested in the ones that I have, I have them flying nicely and it's a week before deer season starts. All reasons that I don't want to change at this time.