Post by: sisu on December 11, 2007, 04:16:02 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2007, 04:18:44 PM
having all the stuff to tie nicely and neatly organized is one thing, then actually tying is another...i claim to tie flies, although one wouldn't guess it by looking at me or my tying supplies.
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another hobby i need to create more time for.
Post by: EMPyre on December 11, 2007, 04:21:58 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2007, 04:26:15 PM
good luck tying one of them though unless you have the stinger hook thing figured out. i tried a couple, i have 1 thats tied, but not too confident on the line holding between the 2 shanks.
Post by: Ironhead on December 11, 2007, 04:34:24 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2007, 04:39:58 PM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 11, 2007, 04:41:59 PM
Post by: sisu on December 11, 2007, 04:56:28 PM
Grand Ronde: My wife killed them with a sort of traditional muddler minnow. I say sort of because I was taught to always have a wee bit of red tucked in next to the squirrel before you start with the deer hair.
Other stuff for the GR would be comet,marabous(chartreuse, black and purple), freight trains, skunks. I guess that would be it. But pack some muddler minnows I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2007, 05:08:13 PM
if you don't mind straying from the steelhead fly-only type flies, those fish are also real trouty, in that they will readily eat bug patterns and nymphs under an indicator if thats your style too. also don't miss the smallmouth bass opportunities on that river. i got a 4 pounder there one day on my 4 weight out of a driftboat.
Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2007, 05:17:25 PM
Post by: sisu on December 11, 2007, 05:20:23 PM
I'm collecting feathers, and I touched my box full of vises and hooks he other day...does that count? :)Ya now YOU have feathers. I have the crumbs. :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2007, 05:46:32 PM
What are some of oyur favorite flies? Ever fish Rigley up there?
Post by: millirad on December 11, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
The MOAL leach can be very fun and easy to tie. Need two vises howevever.
Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2007, 11:54:02 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 12, 2007, 07:27:38 AM
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Jakelope,
The MOAL leach can be very fun and easy to tie. Need two vises howevever.
yeah...i knew that. i'll try it again one of these days. how do you work the tie to the forward shank??
i think they make pre-tied loops or something along those lines for them now.
bone...they're deadly in the winter time anywhere. i've used them in different colors for bass too.
Post by: Ironhead on December 12, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 12, 2007, 08:20:26 AM
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Anybody floated the Wenatchee since it opened ?
a buddy flyfished it on thanksgiving day...2 fish, 3 guys, on the fly.
hows the flows on the rhonde in the winter and where do you float it?
i floated it one time from the river road down to boggans oasis. we scraped bottom a bunch and had to get out twice...this was mid summer.
Post by: sisu on December 12, 2007, 08:30:12 AM
Looked on line and all I can find is: here is an alternative to the MOAL that's simple etc.
Post by: jackelope on December 12, 2007, 08:41:28 AM
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(1) First mount to vises next to each other, from tip to tip should be around 3 1/2” from each other. Create a loop with some sort of braided line (Spectra or Dacron are what I use), thread the loop through the eye, bring the hook through the loop creating a loop around the shank and leaving two tag ends coming straight from the eye, they both should be around 6” in length. Mount a cheap egg hook in the for-vise and bring the tag ends through the eye and back down the shank. Start the thread at the bend of the hook, after secure bring the thread forward covering the line nice and secure; bring the thread back to half shank so the rabbit can be tied in later, whip finish or half hitch (you notice I do this when ever something is tied in, this makes for a fly that can take a beating)
(2)Take the cross-cut material (most likely rabbit) and prepare it by pinching off about 1/4” of fur leaving a exposed tag end of leather. Insert in between the line and place a drop of glue, I use super glue but there are many other great types of glue that can be used. Now run a bead of glue down the length of the line.
(3)Start wrapping the fur up the line now
(4 optional, best used when using two colors of fur)Stop halfway and tie on some flash, an over hand knot works fine since there is still glue on the line. If using two colors here is where one would end and the other would be inserted.
(5)Wrap all the way to the bend to the hook and then one wrap around shank. Tie off and trim.
(6)Tie in some flash to accent the body, trim at the end of the fur. Half hitch or whip finish.
(7)Tie in some Polar Chenille or Soft hackle (schlappen). Make sure to take out any twist in the thread so the head can be even. Wrap in the collar of choice then tie off and trim. Half hitch or whip finish
(8)I used Antron Chenille for the egg in this picture, there is many other options. Pinch off ½” of the chenille exposing the core, tie in and create a nice neat egg. I brought the chenille back one warp over the collar; this hides the stem or core of the collar material and leaves a nice look.
(9)Whip finish and cement, cut off the spear of the for-hook with a pair of dykes
Post by: Ironhead on December 12, 2007, 08:46:50 AM
hows the flows on the rhonde in the winter and where do you float it?
i floated it one time from the river road down to boggans oasis. we scraped bottom a bunch and had to get out twice...this was mid summer.
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I usally float from either the state line down to the first pullout or from the 2nd pullout down from the state line to Boggans. Flows are typically great mid winter but, it can completely freeze over or blow out like last year. I got to get over and fish the Wenatchee thats where I learned to Steelhead fish about 30 years ago.
Looks like some one needs to tell me how to use the quote addition
Post by: jackelope on December 12, 2007, 09:05:02 AM
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Looks like some one needs to tell me how to use the quote addition
copy what you want to quote...click the quote icon, then click in between the ] [ and
paste what you want, then you usually have to click back outside of the ] [ after you paste in order for it to work right, otherwise you end up with what you typed also in the quote shaded area.
Post by: sisu on December 12, 2007, 06:15:42 PM
from your favorite site, sisu...this is for an egg-sucking version, but you can modify it as needed, and there are lots of modifications already done. lots of spey style flies are being tied in the articulated form now too.quote]
OK I read the directions and was totally butt backwards when finished, so I googled and I googled and etc. until I found a site that had some pictures of the fly in question being tied. NOW, I understand. thanks for the post. I really like this idea. I had something similar that a guide on Kodiak Island(Port Lions Lodge) uses with great success.
These show something similar and I believe will get me into success and out of trouble. heehee :chuckle:
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?act=flyshow&s=$s&showid=574
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?act=flyshow&s=$s&showid=572
Post by: millirad on December 12, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
Not much of a recipe. I created a dubbing ball on the trailing hook(octopus). I used Dacron backing from the trailing hook to Mustad hook( used for the shank ). The lead hook (Mustad) is later cut off. The trick is to thread the Dacron through the cone on the Mustad down through the eye back through the cone and the securely wrap with thread.Then did exactly as jakelope did in his instructions. I just used whatever crosscut rabbit I had and worked my way forward. Might I suggest that those interested get together at a convenient location to share techniques, ideas, and tie some flies.