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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: hard hunter on August 22, 2009, 01:20:55 AM
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I was recommended these for elk and just wanted any thoughts or experience with them. Anyone use them or had any experience with them?
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I hope so thats what I'll be using,they shot great out of my knight.
I don't see any reason they wouldn't work.
Bob
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I just recieved 40 of them in the mail. I paid $37.00 with shipping for them from Midaway. I'm hoping to shoot them soon and see how they do. I have read alot of good reviews on them on this Forum and others.
Good luck this season.
Kris
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I found the 300 graind at http\\www.rrarms.com for $11.11 a box. Mine are due thurs.
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That sounds like a great deal!!! How much for shipping?
If I like these I might buy several boxes and stock up at that price.
Kris
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Just shot 4 of them out of my Knight Bighorn...I couldn't get any more down the barrel after that! Loading these bullets was like manual labor! I know some barrels are tighter than others but FUUUUCK! I almost strained a nut!!! The bullets are 45 cal, which sounds legitimate, but the sabot is too thick! My buddy, who also has a Knight Bighorn 50 cal., had the same results...Disappointing since they seemed to shoot well!
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Try different sabots. First try the Harvester "crush rib" sabot. Cabelas has them.
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Just shot 4 of them out of my Knight Bighorn...I couldn't get any more down the barrel after that! Loading these bullets was like manual labor! I know some barrels are tighter than others but FUUUUCK! I almost strained a nut!!! The bullets are 45 cal, which sounds legitimate, but the sabot is too thick! My buddy, who also has a Knight Bighorn 50 cal., had the same results...Disappointing since they seemed to shoot well!
WOW !! I never had any trouble like that and they shot GREAT.
Bob
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They must not be the ones with the red sabot. My BH has a tight barrel but the red saboted SST slip right with finger pressure. In fact there are scary loose.
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Just remember, you don't have to use the sabot that comes with the bullets. Experiment with different ones until you find one that fits right and shoots good.
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They must not be the ones with the red sabot. My BH has a tight barrel but the red saboted SST slip right with finger pressure. In fact there are scary loose.
same here and they shot great,no proplem loading at all
Bob
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try spraying the sabot with a little pam or other cooking spray.
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my buddy and i took these bullets out to the range and over probably several day we have shot probably 80 plus rounds, we had these with easy load sabots that it comes with, they loaded super easy, almost to easy in my Buddy's bighorn and loaded easy in my bighorn also, they shot really good out of my big horn but not out of his big horn or his black diamond we measured our inside bore and found that both his inside bore were bigger than mine, i went to sportsmans the next day and bought knight high pressure sabots, and now we are shooting great, granted it is alot snugger to load, but you can still pretty easy, we are both shooting 100gr triple 7 loose with a 300gr sst, at 100 yards we are getting 1 inch groups at 2 inch's high, so all in all i would say go and buy new sabots, try a bunch of different sizes, these bullets are great, cant wait to see what they do to an animal!
Mike Aka Mason County Hitman
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I'm not sure how the muzzleloader sabot compares to the shotgun sabot, but there have been quite a few reports of failure on elk with the Hornady SST 300 grain sabot shotgun slug. There is a master hunter elk hunt in the Sequim area run by a hunt master who does not allow hunters to use this particular slug, because of too many instances of crippled elk. Call him if you want more information. PM me for phone #.
These slugs are accurate in most guns, and have a wonderful reputation on deer in the shotgun version. For elk, I would encourage use of a different slug if they are similar to the shotgun version.
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Thanks for the advice!
The particular bullets I purchased came with the black sabots...also known as their "high velocity, impossible to load sabots." I assume the red sabots you are referring to are their "low drag sabots?"
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Correct red sabots are low drag sabots.
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Hit my first animal with the sst bullets. I used 45 cal 250 grain bullet behind 110 grains of loose 777 fffg. All the damage was from one bullet . The coyote was at a dead run , hit it at 50 yards. More luck than skill.
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I'm not sure how the muzzleloader sabot compares to the shotgun sabot, but there have been quite a few reports of failure on elk with the Hornady SST 300 grain sabot shotgun slug. There is a master hunter elk hunt in the Sequim area run by a hunt master who does not allow hunters to use this particular slug, because of too many instances of crippled elk. Call him if you want more information. PM me for phone #.
These slugs are accurate in most guns, and have a wonderful reputation on deer in the shotgun version. For elk, I would encourage use of a different slug if they are similar to the shotgun version.
I'm going to chicken out on useing them for elk. It would be one thing if I wasn't hunting on a permit. I don't want to take the chance on anything. I'm going to stick with my old bullets untill I get some positive reports from others with these. I shot a few last week and they did shoot good.
Kris
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I just sighted in with the 250gr. hornady low drag and thought they were great....I was drawn for a wr bull tag and have 9 days off to hunt, hopefully i can connect and see the results.....
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Try the Barnes Spit-Fire 290 gr TMZ.
Best, most accurate, & deadliest on the market.
They also have the T-EZ for tight barrels.
The SST's lack in penetration but are very accurate.
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I used the 250 grain Hornady for elk. in front of 110 grains of ff 777. They worked very well. Hit it in the shoulder and the neck.
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Bad experience with the 250's. Shot a big bull 35 yards broadside through the lungs. He went about 20 yards and bedded. I gave him 3 hours and came back in the dark, he stood up and went 20 more yards and bedded again. I gave him the night and showed up first thing in the morning and he was gone. No blood after his last bed, I looked for the whole next day with help from buddies and came up with nothing. I'm thinking those ballistic tips grenaded to fast and only got one lung...
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Bad experience with the 250's. Shot a big bull 35 yards broadside through the lungs. He went about 20 yards and bedded. I gave him 3 hours and came back in the dark, he stood up and went 20 more yards and bedded again. I gave him the night and showed up first thing in the morning and he was gone. No blood after his last bed, I looked for the whole next day with help from buddies and came up with nothing. I'm thinking those ballistic tips grenaded to fast and only got one lung...
Not to second guess you, why let him get away two times?
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Because when i went back it was dark, I shot him just before dusk....I would have put another one in him when i jumped him up, but it was well after shooting hours. Im kinda wishing i would have now