Post by: bowhunterforever on August 30, 2009, 05:45:13 PM
Post by: Crunchy on August 30, 2009, 08:25:23 PM
Post by: belkaholic on August 30, 2009, 10:33:34 PM
Post by: Al Bundy on August 30, 2009, 10:41:44 PM
I use 99% scent killer from wildlife research,I still watch the wind very much though.The scent killer spray must help some.So what do you guys use for killing your human scent, Scent killer99%, dead down wind,Scent away, ect.?
Funny you bring this up. I was just in Warehouse Sports earlier today. I couldn't believe the scent control crap they had. An entire wall of shampoo, clothes detergent, dryer sheets, body wash, pit stick, chewing gum. It was nuts. Then there was the cover scents.
This will be my first year out so I have nothing to go on as far as whether it works or not, but I have been washing all my new camo with scent killer detergent just to get the new clothes smell out of them without making them smell like Tide. Other than that, I figure watching the wind is the best thing to do.
Post by: EastWaViking on August 30, 2009, 10:46:59 PM
I don't think just spraying a little scent killer on your clothes without going through all of the other steps will do anything but waste your money.
Good luck!
Post by: WonkyWapiti on August 30, 2009, 11:34:38 PM
I also try and move slow if I can to keep my perspiration down. I also won't let my two golden retrievers in my truck for the month prior to hunting season to keep their hair and odor out of it.
Post by: MIKEXRAY on August 31, 2009, 06:56:07 AM
Post by: Cylvertip on August 31, 2009, 04:57:04 PM
I'll start by saying this - I do everything I can to put the odds in my favor. Oh yeah, and I've got a little OCD going on too. :dunno:
All clothes are washed in Sports Wash and then sprayed with the UV killer. Everything is stored in water proof bags until I am ready to put it on - shirts, pants, coats, packs, hats, socks underwear, everything. All of the bags get a good squirt of earth scent right before they are closed up (just make sure it goes on pants or socks and not on a face mask or hat, or that will be all you smell in the field. I actually have an air tight closet that I built in my house to store all my gear in during the off season so that no food/ household odors get on anything.
I usually go for two weeks during archery elk and hunt from my camper. The towels, rugs, and bed covering get washed in sports wash right before I head out. I have a strict no cook rule in the camper two weeks prior to season ( hopefully a month before). The camper is thoroughly aired out for several weeks prior to going. I use a lot of the earth scent on the rugs and some on the bedding to cover any residual smells.
When I leave the house, about the last thing I do is take a shower using the scent killer soap. Forthe road trip, I put on "street clothes" washed in Sport Wash. The only cooking I do is to heat hot water in the morning for oat meal. The exhaust fans in the camper are on while the oat meal hydrates and while I eat. For dinner, its peperoni, jerky, and crackers with various desert items added. I take a lot of care to not touch anything I don't have to. I keep a damp paper towel with scent killer soap close for whipping my hands off. I actually eat using only one hand to keep the scent transfer to a minimum.
While in the camper, I wear these scent free street clothes, usually just shorts. My hunting gear does not go on until I am ready to hit the trail. All hunting gear is hosed down with scent killer right before I put it on. If I need to drive some were while in my hunting gear, I have scent free towels on the seats. The towels get a good dose of scent killer along with the seat belt(s)and then some cover scent added. The steering wheel, shifter, armrests all get wiped down with scent killer. That goes for the bike seat and handle bars too....
All the gear that I have not worn is in the water proof bags in the camper. Anthing that I intend on wearing more than once including packs, calls, misc gear go in a big rubbermaid type container in the camper. I usually wear pants two days, shirts one day. I keep a towel in the bottom of the container that is doused in earth scent Before anything goes into the container it gets hosed with scent killer. Add a little more earth scent, and then the container is closed up. When the gear comes back out it gets hosed with scent killer again and taken out of the camper. I add cover scent to the outside of the packs and on the areas that contact my back. Hats usually get worn for several days but will get rinsed out and really hosed with scent killer and that enzyme stuff... cant remember the name... Smiley face on it... :)
The only time gear is left out in the camper other than boots, is if I totally get drenched and the rain gear needs to dry some. My sleeping bag does stay on the bed, but it gets hosed with scent killer and some earth scent right after I get out of it and right before I get in it.
Boots get scent killer powder in them every night when they come off at the door, along with earth scent. I do put cow in heat (or doe in heat during deer season) scent on a scent pad on under the laces on the lower tongue of my boots. I take several pairs of boots just in case they get too wet to dry over night. They sit in front of the heater on the floor of the camper. By the end of two weeks of hunting everything has a real "woodsy aroma." my wife cant stand it, but I love it.. :chuckle:
Every night before I turn in, i wipe down with damp paper towels with scent killer soap on them, and then wipe off with ones with no soap. The same in the morning right before I put my gear on, after breakfast and making a deposit......
All gear that is done being worn - pants, socks, shirts, underwear - is put in thick black garbage bags with cover scent added. The bags are tied at the top.
Once back home, everything that has been used gets washed and then put away, anything that did not come out of the waterproof bags is still good and can get stored right a way.
Garbage is thrown away if/ when I get the chance, if not it's in plastic bags between the bed rail and camper in the bed of the truck ( out side).
By taking these steps, I know I have done everything I can on the scent side to minimize my signature. I still keep track of the wind, but sometimes the herd / animal will move around you. I have prooven to my self with countless close encouters that the scent killer and UV killer work.
I have actually walked, on purpose, right into the middle of a herd of 25+ animals during the middle of the day during early archery, in the middle of a clear cut, to take pictures. I have two shots (pics) of a cow and calf from that heard at 5 yards. I was 15 yards from the 4x5 that was running the heard at the time. They all spooked when I went to take the third shot of the cow and calf. The battery went dead on the camera and beep, beep, beep.......... end of story. :bash: Did I mention this was in the Winston unit were there is a good amount of pressure to say the least. Another day in Ryderwood, it was three bulls that were walking in line. each stopped in turn to stare at the funny looking bush, me. I had staring contest with each at 4 yds - too close to move/ shoot. And many more. ;)
Post by: coachcw on August 31, 2009, 05:17:22 PM
Post by: Armadillo on August 31, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
I'll start by saying this - I do everything I can to put the odds in my favor. Oh yeah, and I've got a little OCD going on too. :dunno:
All clothes are washed in Sports Wash and then sprayed with the UV killer. Everything is stored in water proof bags until I am ready to put it on - shirts, pants, coats, packs, hats, socks underwear, everything. All of the bags get a good squirt of earth scent right before they are closed up (just make sure it goes on pants or socks and not on a face mask or hat, or that will be all you smell in the field. I actually have an air tight closet that I built in my house to store all my gear in during the off season so that no food/ household odors get on anything.
I usually go for two weeks during archery elk and hunt from my camper. The towels, rugs, and bed covering get washed in sports wash right before I head out. I have a strict no cook rule in the camper two weeks prior to season ( hopefully a month before). The camper is thoroughly aired out for several weeks prior to going. I use a lot of the earth scent on the rugs and some on the bedding to cover any residual smells.
When I leave the house, about the last thing I do is take a shower using the scent killer soap. Forthe road trip, I put on "street clothes" washed in Sport Wash. The only cooking I do is to heat hot water in the morning for oat meal. The exhaust fans in the camper are on while the oat meal hydrates and while I eat. For dinner, its peperoni, jerky, and crackers with various desert items added. I take a lot of care to not touch anything I don't have to. I keep a damp paper towel with scent killer soap close for whipping my hands off. I actually eat using only one hand to keep the scent transfer to a minimum.
While in the camper, I wear these scent free street clothes, usually just shorts. My hunting gear does not go on until I am ready to hit the trail. All hunting gear is hosed down with scent killer right before I put it on. If I need to drive some were while in my hunting gear, I have scent free towels on the seats. The towels get a good dose of scent killer along with the seat belt(s)and then some cover scent added. The steering wheel, shifter, armrests all get wiped down with scent killer. That goes for the bike seat and handle bars too....
All the gear that I have not worn is in the water proof bags in the camper. Anthing that I intend on wearing more than once including packs, calls, misc gear go in a big rubbermaid type container in the camper. I usually wear pants two days, shirts one day. I keep a towel in the bottom of the container that is doused in earth scent Before anything goes into the container it gets hosed with scent killer. Add a little more earth scent, and then the container is closed up. When the gear comes back out it gets hosed with scent killer again and taken out of the camper. I add cover scent to the outside of the packs and on the areas that contact my back. Hats usually get worn for several days but will get rinsed out and really hosed with scent killer and that enzyme stuff... cant remember the name... Smiley face on it... :)
The only time gear is left out in the camper other than boots, is if I totally get drenched and the rain gear needs to dry some. My sleeping bag does stay on the bed, but it gets hosed with scent killer and some earth scent right after I get out of it and right before I get in it.
Boots get scent killer powder in them every night when they come off at the door, along with earth scent. I do put cow in heat (or doe in heat during deer season) scent on a scent pad on under the laces on the lower tongue of my boots. I take several pairs of boots just in case they get too wet to dry over night. They sit in front of the heater on the floor of the camper. By the end of two weeks of hunting everything has a real "woodsy aroma." my wife cant stand it, but I love it.. :chuckle:
Every night before I turn in, i wipe down with damp paper towels with scent killer soap on them, and then wipe off with ones with no soap. The same in the morning right before I put my gear on, after breakfast and making a deposit......
All gear that is done being worn - pants, socks, shirts, underwear - is put in thick black garbage bags with cover scent added. The bags are tied at the top.
Once back home, everything that has been used gets washed and then put away, anything that did not come out of the waterproof bags is still good and can get stored right a way.
Garbage is thrown away if/ when I get the chance, if not it's in plastic bags between the bed rail and camper in the bed of the truck ( out side).
By taking these steps, I know I have done everything I can on the scent side to minimize my signature. I still keep track of the wind, but sometimes the herd / animal will move around you. I have prooven to my self with countless close encouters that the scent killer and UV killer work.
I have actually walked, on purpose, right into the middle of a herd of 25+ animals during the middle of the day during early archery, in the middle of a clear cut, to take pictures. I have two shots (pics) of a cow and calf from that heard at 5 yards. I was 15 yards from the 4x5 that was running the heard at the time. They all spooked when I went to take the third shot of the cow and calf. The battery went dead on the camera and beep, beep, beep.......... end of story. :bash: Did I mention this was in the Winston unit were there is a good amount of pressure to say the least. Another day in Ryderwood, it was three bulls that were walking in line. each stopped in turn to stare at the funny looking bush, me. I had staring contest with each at 4 yds - too close to move/ shoot. And many more. ;)
:o :o ......Well I use baking soda :chuckle:
Post by: alanger on August 31, 2009, 05:26:36 PM
wow How do you top that good post, stay clean , watch the wind , try no to pee on your self. I like to throw some sage in with my closes too .
pee on my fingerths :P good luck will come.
Post by: EastWaViking on August 31, 2009, 10:49:55 PM
wow How do you top that good post, stay clean , watch the wind , try no to pee on your self. I like to throw some sage in with my closes too .
I do that too, after all of my clothes are washed and bagged up for my Wyoming trip, I go out to my sage plant (I dug it up in Wyoming.. shhhh don't tell anybody) and break off a couple branches and put them in with my camo.
Post by: Cylvertip on September 01, 2009, 01:44:01 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on September 01, 2009, 04:37:40 AM
Crap, I remember by Uncle bowhunting with a lit cigarette in his mouth...
Post by: mossback91 on September 01, 2009, 04:48:00 AM
:yike:
Crap, I remember by Uncle bowhunting with a lit cigarette in his mouth...
back when my dad used to smoke he would use his cig to see what way the wind was blowin :chuckle: seemed to work for him he has killed quite a few monsters in his time!!
Myself Id rather get rid of as much scent as possible and cover it up with some piss!!!
Post by: bow4elk on September 01, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
:yike:
Crap, I remember by Uncle bowhunting with a lit cigarette in his mouth...
The first year Kansas allowed non-resident hunting, my partner and I met up with Jim Dougherty to hunt some monster whitetails. Jim was a smoker back then and didn't give it a second thought. I was really surprised that he smoked while hunting. That always bothered me for some reason.
Post by: BOHNTR on September 01, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
you must start in July to be ready. :yike:
Post by: flashover52 on September 03, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
I usually use the sport wash UV killer and drop a fresh earth dryer sheet in the plastic space bag before sealing it up. The bags keep the clothes dry on the hike in if it's raining.
Post by: bonneylakebowman on September 06, 2009, 07:30:11 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on September 06, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
20 + caribou (10 bow)
10 + bear (3 bow)
1 - dall sheep
3 elk (3 bow)
unaccountable number of deer ( a lot bow)
15+ turkeys
All with the scent of a marlboro
Post by: Huntbear on September 06, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
Myself Id rather get rid of as much scent as possible and cover it up with some piss!!!
You shouldn't pee on yourself Moss, it's gross.
Now THAT is funny!!!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: mossback91 on September 07, 2009, 04:26:18 AM
Myself Id rather get rid of as much scent as possible and cover it up with some piss!!!
You shouldn't pee on yourself Moss, it's gross.
you taught that method to me
Post by: boneaddict on September 07, 2009, 05:55:47 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on September 07, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
I don't do a damn thing but watch the wind. Other than making the occasional nice garment I have laughed my ass off at all those investing in Scent lock. How many bags of clothes sealed and packed with baking soda do you think I carry into the deep woods. Go to all that work and within 10 seconds of exposure, they smell just like you do. LOL
I'm with Bone on this one. After a day in the backcountry there's nothing that you can do to stop the human scent from coming through. All you can do from there on in is hunt smarter. The only thing that I can guess is that OCD-guy is pulling our leg. Nobody can do that much for more than one day and actually think it helps, but if he does, then DAMN! Maybe he is able to get back to the camper each day for a shower...I know I sure can't, and I hunt out of a camper too.
Post by: mossback91 on September 08, 2009, 05:36:15 AM
had a two point walk up on me yesterday until he was about 30 yards and realized i wasnt his momma.........I wasnt even paying attention he scared the hell out of me cause I was watching some bucks about 500 yards out waiting for them to bed.........by the way the wind was blowing right towards that buck........so it must work right? :dunno:
Post by: Jake T on September 08, 2009, 08:10:54 AM
Post by: colockumelk on September 08, 2009, 10:25:05 AM
I don't do a damn thing but watch the wind. Other than making the occasional nice garment I have laughed my ass off at all those investing in Scent lock. How many bags of clothes sealed and packed with baking soda do you think I carry into the deep woods. Go to all that work and within 10 seconds of exposure, they smell just like you do. LOL
That's impossible bone. No one can kill animals simply by playing the wind. Just ask the Drury Brothers, and Lee and Tiffany and...... :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on September 08, 2009, 10:30:02 AM
Post by: colockumelk on September 08, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
Post by: croix on September 08, 2009, 12:02:53 PM
4 moose (2 bow)
20 + caribou (10 bow)
10 + bear (3 bow)
1 - dall sheep
3 elk (3 bow)
unaccountable number of deer ( a lot bow)
15+ turkeys
All with the scent of a marlboro
That's just funny. Maybe Wholesale Sports should start putting Marlboro's on the wall of cover scents. Could be a whole market that Philip Morris is missing out on. :chuckle:
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 08, 2009, 01:39:31 PM
Post by: Cylvertip on September 22, 2009, 03:22:33 PM
I'm with Bone on this one. After a day in the backcountry there's nothing that you can do to stop the human scent from coming through. All you can do from there on in is hunt smarter. The only thing that I can guess is that OCD-guy is pulling our leg. Nobody can do that much for more than one day and actually think it helps, but if he does, then DAMN! Maybe he is able to get back to the camper each day for a shower...I know I sure can't, and I hunt out of a camper too.
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Not pulling anything.
Never underestimate the ability of an Engineer to over think some thing...
I did not have much luck on my hunt for a big bull out on the coast/ Olympics. But I did have a sow with two cubs walk in on me from down wind to 25 yards. She finally turned around and walked off after she saw me in the middle of the logging road with my mountain bike. She didn't like what she saw and just turned around and walked off the road. This was a week into my time out in the field.
I went through a gallon and a half of the "scent killer" and was on my third bottle of "dead down wind" in 12 days out and about.
Post by: EastWaViking on September 22, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
I got to say though that Primos silver xp is AMAZING stuff. We sprayed it on the gas puddle left from the 4 wheelers in the back of the trailer, and the smell was instantly gone! I topped off my 3 wheeler just before heading out one morning and got a drop of gas on my fingers. I grabbed a Hunters Specialty wet wipe, and it did nothing, the gas smell was still there, I sprayed my hand with Primos and the smell was gone. I won't buy anything else after that test.
Post by: ICEMAN on September 22, 2009, 08:15:24 PM
After the first day in Wyoming... actually, the first hour (90 degree temps) I forgot about the scent killers and depended on the wind to hide me.
I got to say though that Primos silver xp is AMAZING stuff. We sprayed it on the gas puddle left from the 4 wheelers in the back of the trailer, and the smell was instantly gone! I topped off my 3 wheeler just before heading out one morning and got a drop of gas on my fingers. I grabbed a Hunters Specialty wet wipe, and it did nothing, the gas smell was still there, I sprayed my hand with Primos and the smell was gone. I won't buy anything else after that test.
I find it is easier and cheaper to wipe your wet socks or soiled undies on your hands and over gas spills, as a cover scent. Try it!
Post by: EastWaViking on September 22, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
Post by: River on September 25, 2009, 07:46:36 PM
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 29, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 29, 2009, 08:35:15 PM
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Two years ago, along with last year I had to put my cigarette out to shoot my bull,
Several years ago I had a good Blacktail (for the area) come into my hand gun sights as I put my cig out..
At 15 feet.
The wind is your friend. Learn it well. Respect it. Cover scent is what's local to you. Hell, one day I stuffed a nice ripe pine cone in my pocket. I couldn't smell my own sweat. I lay down in the local vegitation quite often. It all mixes.
The cig is the extreme, but I've smelled bad breath on hunters from 80yds. Ick! :yike:
-Steve
Post by: EastWaViking on September 30, 2009, 09:35:24 AM
The way I hunt early White Tail archery, (on the ground sitting a fence line, where deer can approach from any direction) anything less than total scent elimination would ruin the hunt. Before I got serious about scent control deer would spook 80 yards down wind, now I some times have them within feet down wind and they don't know I exist.
During late season I still hunt, and then I of course hunt into the wind.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 01, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
Post by: EastWaViking on October 01, 2009, 01:19:10 PM
For some reason I just visualized a deer talking to another going "naah that smells like cigarette. No hunter would be stupid enough to light a cigarette when they're coming after us. Let's check it out!"
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: PolarBear on October 01, 2009, 01:21:18 PM