Post by: wastickslinger on September 05, 2009, 11:13:51 PM
Post by: jasfireman on September 05, 2009, 11:20:34 PM
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Post by: alecvg on September 05, 2009, 11:39:02 PM
Post by: bow4elk on September 05, 2009, 11:46:26 PM
Post by: Ellensburg on September 06, 2009, 12:01:52 AM
Man i have always wanted to see one of those freaks. I don't know if I would shoot it or not, it might be legal... :dunno:
Im sure u could get 3 points out of it on one side. I'd shoot it.
Post by: robb92 on September 06, 2009, 03:13:19 AM
Post by: GrainfedMuley on September 06, 2009, 03:40:20 AM
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Post by: jackelope on September 06, 2009, 07:29:41 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on September 06, 2009, 07:34:27 AM
what bow4elk said...he's likely got no balls.
Yes he does...... there just on his head. :chuckle:
Post by: LongTatLaw on September 06, 2009, 09:27:17 AM
cool pics
Post by: Bighorse on September 06, 2009, 01:55:29 PM
Post by: alecvg on September 06, 2009, 02:11:14 PM
Man i have always wanted to see one of those freaks. I don't know if I would shoot it or not, it might be legal... :dunno:
Im sure u could get 3 points out of it on one side. I'd shoot it.
Ya, your probaly right.
Weird but cool, I would shoot it and then do a Euro mount with it.
That would be awsome! I don't know how I would mount it though, either way it would look awsome!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 06, 2009, 02:33:14 PM
Weird but cool, I would shoot it and then do a Euro mount with it.
Shoot him in the head, then do a euro mount of that... :chuckle:
Post by: runniNgunnin on September 06, 2009, 03:17:52 PM
That's known as a cactus buck. To learn more: http://www.kingsoutdoorworld.com/feature/cactus-bucks.shtml
thats pretty interesting bow4elk, thats for the info.
Post by: markts on September 06, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
Ive seen some minor deviations but Id shoot that buck just because of how odd it is... :yike::yeah: Mark
cool pics
Post by: C-Money on September 06, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on September 06, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
Post by: alecvg on September 06, 2009, 07:22:28 PM
I too wounder if it is female??
It probaly had its balls removed somehow. (Caught on barbed wire fence etc.) So I don't think that would be conside3red female, no female parts. :dunno: If that is what happened.
Post by: wastickslinger on September 06, 2009, 07:25:30 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on September 06, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Post by: runniNgunnin on September 06, 2009, 07:55:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 06, 2009, 08:05:50 PM
from that article bow4elk linked:
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Velvet is an extension of skin that covers the growing antlers. Throughout the growing period, blood carries nutrients to the antlers via the velvet. Mineralization of antlers and a decrease of blood supply due to rising testosterone levels trigger velvet shedding. Testosterone is the hormone that dominates antler growth. In several studies, testosterone was artificially injected into deer during the antler-growing stage. The bucks reacted to the testosterone by shedding the velvet from the antlers before the blood supply had stopped. Have you ever noticed the last bucks to shed their velvet are the yearling bucks and the regressed old-aged bucks? Now you know why, they produce less testosterone than bucks in their prime.
So what do testosterone levels have to do with cactus bucks? Well, everything.
In most cactus buck documentations, a buck had the misfortune to turn “himself” into an “it.” The buck’s testes, the major testosterone producer, may have been left on a barbwire fence line or seriously injured in any number of ways. These castrations continuously result in “cactus” formation antlers with permanent velvet.
Post by: jackelope on September 06, 2009, 08:06:52 PM
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If a young fawn is castrated within the first few months, that deer will not develop pedicles and therefore never develop antlers. Older fawns that have been castrated have been documented of growing a permanent, small, knob-like mass of velvet. If an adult buck is castrated during antler growth and in the velvet, the lack of testosterone allows the velvet antlers to continue growing, omitting the velvet shedding stage and total ossification of antler. These antlers may go on growing for a long period of time creating large cactus racks. These antlers will not shed in the spring. However, it has been reported that in freezing climates the moisture enveloped inside these velvet-covered antlers freezes and parts of the antlers break off. I believe this is why we see so many large cactus bucks in mild weather areas. The antlers are able to continue growing and growing without breaking.
Post by: wastickslinger on September 06, 2009, 08:10:20 PM
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Post by: Rob on September 09, 2009, 09:33:41 AM
Post by: WhiskyRiver on September 09, 2009, 11:33:36 AM
I wonder if there is a kid around here that thinks its funny to shoot bucks in the nuts with his BB gun like I use to to to bulls on our farm. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: KimberRich on September 10, 2009, 09:05:15 AM
That's known as a cactus buck. To learn more: http://www.kingsoutdoorworld.com/feature/cactus-bucks.shtml
thats pretty interesting bow4elk, thats for the info.
I like the antlered doe at the end of the article.. Odd stuff.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on September 10, 2009, 09:39:17 AM
I shot this guy a couple years back. In velvet in Mid October. All of his anatomy was accounted for. He had a huge body with over an inch and a half of body fat on the top of his back. Very tasty deer.
I'll second that. I killed one very similar about 15 years ago, was absolutely fantastic eats. Like comparing a steer to a bull. Mine had under-developed testicles, about 3/4".
In addition to trauma, it is not uncommon to see this in mule deer (testicular atrophy) as a result of hydrocarbon environmental contamination. In eastern Wyoming, there were a couple of old refineries and oil fields where they were fairly common. The effect was first discovered in HUMAN oil field and refinery workers :yike:.