Post by: let.it.fly on September 15, 2009, 07:16:11 AM
Post by: coachcw on September 15, 2009, 10:23:58 AM
Post by: Angus on September 15, 2009, 01:14:14 PM
Good luck.
Post by: spin05 on September 15, 2009, 01:39:10 PM
Post by: colockumelk on September 15, 2009, 02:12:21 PM
I heard alot the day before elk season opened in the Coweeman unit, virtually none since then. Last year they were bugling full speed at this time :dunno:
Good luck.
People think the rut is dependent upon the moon phase, or the weather. They are wrong. The deciding factor is when the cows come into their estrus cycle. :twocents:
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on September 15, 2009, 02:23:32 PM
Oh and by the way the Bulls in Nooksack are going absolutley garbonzo!!!!! Bellowing their stinking guts out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SkookumHntr on September 15, 2009, 02:29:30 PM
Believe it or not but the estrus cycle is determined by "LIGHT". Biologist or Scientist whoever have kept deer in a light controlled environment and staved of estrus by controlling the light. So the rut is actually affected by the amount of light. Learn something new everyday!!!--Did you get your bull? If not how come your not out there? :dunno:
Oh and by the way the Bulls in Nooksack are going absolutley garbonzo!!!!! Bellowing their stinking guts out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on September 15, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 15, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
I heard alot the day before elk season opened in the Coweeman unit, virtually none since then. Last year they were bugling full speed at this time :dunno:
Good luck.
People think the rut is dependent upon the moon phase, or the weather. They are wrong. The deciding factor is when the cows come into their estrus cycle. :twocents:
The rut may not be decided by the moon phase or weather but the amount of talking going on can have a close relationship to these. Full moon and hot, they go more at night... cloudy and cool and it's more likely to ba all day long.
Post by: elkman11032 on September 15, 2009, 03:23:02 PM
elkman
Post by: bowhiker on September 15, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Post by: rezboy on September 15, 2009, 08:09:13 PM
Last weekend my buddy killed a very heavy 5x5 in packwood area.He said they were bugling everywere.........Good luck.
Any pics???
Post by: spin05 on September 16, 2009, 12:26:44 AM
Post by: bowhunterforever on September 16, 2009, 12:51:43 AM
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Post by: swanny on September 16, 2009, 05:43:01 AM
Post by: rezboy on September 16, 2009, 02:02:29 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 16, 2009, 02:41:47 PM
Believe it or not but the estrus cycle is determined by "LIGHT". Biologist or Scientist whoever have kept deer in a light controlled environment and staved of estrus by controlling the light. So the rut is actually affected by the amount of light.
I am sure there is solid science behind that (I have heard it several times from reputable sources), but I will tell you this; it's 90 degrees in the Blues right now, and I can't buy an answer to a bugle. They are usually going NUTS right now (2nd week of the bow season). Not saying they're not rutting, just not screaming.
Post by: grousetracker on September 16, 2009, 03:05:14 PM
Post by: firedog on September 16, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 16, 2009, 09:48:49 PM
Been up in the Coweman since the opener and haven't hardly heard a bugle the past 5 days. We had a small 5x5 ripping last fri and thought they would be going strong after that. Haven't been able to get anything going though, hopefully something will happen between now and the close on sunday. Have seen a lot of elk though and been a great hunt, even had my 5 year old son out for the morning on Sunday for his first hunt. That made my week and being able to stick something will be icing on the cake.
Maybe just like last year in the coweeman? They were srceaming and talking nonstop right up til bow opened. Shut up for three weeks and then started again. The only ones we had going during bow last year were the big hogs that wouldn't come in close enough for a shot! :dunno: :bash: :bash:
Post by: firedog on September 17, 2009, 07:07:08 AM
Maybe just like last year in the coweeman? They were srceaming and talking nonstop right up til bow opened. Shut up for three weeks and then started again. The only ones we had going during bow last year were the big hogs that wouldn't come in close enough for a shot! :dunno: :bash: :bash:
The guys going into the tree farm on quads and bugling off them doesn't help either. I should have been out at first light but came to town last night and decided to stay and take the kids to school, will be back in camp by 10 and out to the woods. Will say that I have been seeing a lot of elk mid day so hopefully todays delay isn't to much of a hinderance.
Post by: colockumelk on September 17, 2009, 07:45:52 AM
Guys can sound like crap and it wont bother the elk. It's when you have guys driving around on four wheelers and bugling at noon that bothers the elk and makes them shut up.
Also remember as long as they're not being bumbed in their beds they'll stick around because they feel safe. But if you bump them in their beds they'll leave the area because they don't feel safe anymore.
Post by: let.it.fly on September 17, 2009, 07:46:43 AM
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Post by: spin05 on September 17, 2009, 05:38:25 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on September 17, 2009, 06:23:15 PM
I had bulls bugling like crazy in the evening last week here in ID and a buddy who is hunting here archery says they're going crazy as well... People need to realize what kind of bugles the bulls are doing and how to respond, probably why 90% of the bulls shutup after they've been bugled at by hunters when it does happen...
Michael
Post by: colockumelk on September 18, 2009, 12:30:49 PM
People need to realize what kind of bugles the bulls are doing and how to respond, probably why 90% of the bulls shutup after they've been bugled at by hunters when it does happen...
Michael
:yeah:
If you throw out a locator bugle and one throws one back. Most people bugle back. That is the last thing you want to do. You need to move in on him and cow call. Plus almost all the human bugles I hear are the challenging agressive bugles. That's why they pick up and move away. If he has a bunch of cows why would he want to stay and fight and then possibly lose some cows.
Also if you bugle then you are a bugle that the bulls in the area have not heard before. They have not seen you. So they will come in silent so they can get a look at you to size you up. Until people learn what each call actually means in elk language you are just wasting your time.
I highly recommend that during the off-season everyone buys all of ELKNUT's CD's or DVD's and watches/listens to them religiously. This will up your game tremendously.
Post by: xXx Archery on September 19, 2009, 07:11:49 AM
People need to realize what kind of bugles the bulls are doing and how to respond, probably why 90% of the bulls shutup after they've been bugled at by hunters when it does happen...
Michael
:yeah:
If you throw out a locator bugle and one throws one back. Most people bugle back. That is the last thing you want to do. You need to move in on him and cow call. Plus almost all the human bugles I hear are the challenging agressive bugles. That's why they pick up and move away. If he has a bunch of cows why would he want to stay and fight and then possibly lose some cows.
Also if you bugle then you are a bugle that the bulls in the area have not heard before. They have not seen you. So they will come in silent so they can get a look at you to size you up. Until people learn what each call actually means in elk language you are just wasting your time.
I highly recommend that during the off-season everyone buys all of ELKNUT's CD's or DVD's and watches/listens to them religiously. This will up your game tremendously.
wow I guess we are doing it all wrong we only killed 5 elk so far...maybe we should not bugle? 1 of the 7 bulls that came in was silent? what did we do wrong they are comming in bugling....well we are going to Idaho now I hope we can get it right.