Post by: Remington 243 on September 16, 2009, 07:08:05 AM
50 to 100 yds,, ? More than 100 yds ?
Post by: Navyhunter on September 16, 2009, 07:19:26 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on September 16, 2009, 07:35:12 AM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on September 16, 2009, 07:38:31 AM
Post by: Remington 243 on September 16, 2009, 08:15:24 AM
Post by: jackelope on September 16, 2009, 08:33:42 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on September 16, 2009, 08:37:21 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 16, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
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Just woundering what distance I should zero in my scope. And what power of scope I should buy for my 270 ?[/color]
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sight in a couple inches high at 100 will put you at zero at 200(or close enough) and buy a 3-9x scope.
This would appear to be the unwritten standard. Now'a days, your scope could cost just as much or more than your rifle if you want good quality/durability/light gathering abilities. You need to take into account the region/terrain/vegitation you're hunting any animal in. There are places that shots on Elk could be well less than 50yds because you can''t see farther than that through the trees. Other places could have shots more than 300yds. It's a little late in the year to be slapping a scope on a rifle and 'practicing' for that 200+yd kill shot with yer new .270.
-Steve
Post by: Remington 243 on September 16, 2009, 08:59:26 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 16, 2009, 09:11:04 AM
Post by: LongTatLaw on September 16, 2009, 09:43:11 AM
Ive shot two elk...one was at one yard :o and one was at 52 yards (both bow shots)
If you can shoot 200 yards Id say ur ok and most people can get there with one day at the range with a 270!
JackOfAllTrades...I have to disagree. If he doesnt have his scope yet...he has PLENTY of time to buy one and get to a range and get it all perfect and ready for rifle elk :dunno: or are you suggesting he skips this season and practice for fall 2010 so he can be dead on 6 months before season?? :dunno: :P
243, those are decent scopes your looking at...
I have disagreed with Jackelope plenty of times on almost anything I can but I like more magnification than 9x!
Jackofalltrades is right... what kind of terrain are you hunting?
how far can ya see?
I have a Nikon Monarch 8-32 x 50mm on my sage brush gun because you can see a long way and it has a 600 meter drop down reticle...that gun isnt good in thick nasty western washington!
no matter what I prefer something closer to 4-14 power and never ever buy anything that doesnt have 40mm or 50mm...ya cant deny the light collection.
my :twocents:
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2009, 09:48:08 AM
I can see a 160gr in the .270 but 180?????????
Post by: jackelope on September 16, 2009, 10:02:54 AM
:twocents:
what are you gonna do with that 8-32x scope when your bull appears at 20 yards? shove the rifle down it's throat? cuzz all you're gonna see is brown when you put the scope up on him.
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2009, 10:16:24 AM
what are you gonna do with that 8-32x scope when your bull appears at 20 yards? shove the rifle down it's throat? cuzz all you're gonna see is brown when you put the scope up on him.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 16, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
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JackOfAllTrades...I have to disagree. If he doesnt have his scope yet...he has PLENTY of time to buy one and get to a range and get it all perfect and ready for rifle elk
I really like bow hunters! :rolleyes:
You know why?
scroll down.....
BECAUSE THEY PRACTICE! (well, most of them do)
I frequent my local gun club about 9 months of the year on a 'regular' basis. I may be shooting pistol most of the time, but I pay attention to what's going on around me. I see guys every year the week before Deer season show up with their gun and print a fancy group with their prized rifle of choice from sand bags, lead sleds and such, then go hunting the next week. I hear of missed shots. We all do. Why? Because most rifle hunters don't practice shooting off hand, from sitting, kneeling, prone or other semi-supported and unsupported positions. They figure that just dialing things in from the bench makes them a good shooter. Some people are naturals. I've seen'm. Most are not.
Maybe I stereotyped Mr/Mrs. Remington243 a little, I have no idea how often this guy/gal shoots that rifle or any other. And I mean no offense. But asking about Elk shooting distances a mear two months away from season? That's ~8 weekends? Family commitments.. Deer season... How many times is he/she going to get to the range between now and the Elk opener?
Be realistic. Twice? Three times at most? Two sessions from the bench? Any from the standing position unsupported off hand hitting a pop can at at least 100yds, (preferably more)?
I hope I'm wrong. My statement stands though. It's a little late in the season to be putting a hunting rifle together with new scope.
Not that it can't be done. A bit of dilligence from the hunter will go a long long way. And I'll have a ton more respect for the person that does put that ammount of time and effort in to make sure he/she has the skills to make the good shot between now and then.
-Steve
Post by: jackelope on September 16, 2009, 10:27:12 AM
Post by: NWBREW on September 16, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
Looking at Leupold VX-2 and Busnell Elete 3200 3x9
Both of those scopes are great choices. 3-9 X 40 is a great all around choice. Not much need for anything else for elk hunting. :twocents:
And while it is a bit late in the year, if you have a lot of shooting experience with your other rifles, I think you'd be fine to get a new .270 setup for elk hunting this year and still have some time to practice a bit with it.
Post by: Dadbear on September 16, 2009, 10:41:15 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 16, 2009, 11:07:35 AM
Jeep, is that a typo about the 180gr in a .270? :dunno:
I can see a 160gr in the .270 but 180?????????
Your right, 150gr is what we shoot. Damn typos... I only had 1 cup of coffee at that point. :chuckle:
Post by: woodswalker on September 16, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
what are you gonna do with that 8-32x scope when your bull appears at 20 yards? shove the rifle down it's throat? cuzz all you're gonna see is brown when you put the scope up on him.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
sight down the side of the barrel at that range.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 16, 2009, 01:38:34 PM
Post by: halflife65 on September 16, 2009, 01:48:20 PM
sight in a couple inches high at 100 will put you at zero at 200(or close enough) and buy a 3-9x scope.
Exactly. I hunted with a .270 for years and sighted in the same way. I just put a Leupold Vari-X II 3X9 on it and went to town. Make sure to use 150 gr bullets (unless you are handloading and have some other options). I always used the old standby Federal Premium Nosler Partitions. I've shot elk from about 100 yards to about 400 yards.
After that, I got all fancy with my scope and rifle, but I noticed that it didn't kill them any deader than the old .270 with the old Vari-X II. Now I just try to get them with a sharp stick...
Post by: coachcw on September 16, 2009, 01:57:02 PM
Post by: Remington 243 on September 16, 2009, 02:14:46 PM
Not the history of all your exsperences and science of weapons and ammo..
Geeess
Thank you anyway,, its all good .
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2009, 02:23:53 PM
Post by: LongTatLaw on September 16, 2009, 03:16:03 PM
i hunted Western WA's thickest stuff for 3 months straight in 2007 with a 6-20 x 50mm...the same one I hunted the SE for 10 years. I walk around with it pre-set at 10-12 power... :dunno:
Ive never dialed it down even for a 30 yard kill on my bear ;) or 15 yard shots on deer in GA, NC, MS....
Ill walk around Western WA with my 8-32x 50mm set around 10-12... :P if u think a deer is safe at 20 yards send me to ur honey hole...
The only reason Id switch guns is if I KNOW all Im gonna do is bust brush for 30 yard shots...then Id turn to the slug gun (which has a 3-9x40 :P)
Its mostly preference 243...and most would agree with these boys that 3-9 is plenty... I just know that a larger target image increases my accuracy.
None of these boys would argue (I THINK) that a rifle planned for mostly 300 yard shooting could stand more than 3-9 power.
The longer the shots planned...the more important a high magnification is... thats not opinion.
did we ever hear where ur hunting?
Post by: dbllunger on September 16, 2009, 03:35:33 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 16, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
The scope discussion and zeroing in discussion is cracking my up though..
Post by: coachcw on September 16, 2009, 05:48:10 PM
Post by: MooseStock on September 16, 2009, 06:31:31 PM