Post by: NW-GSP on September 18, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 18, 2009, 02:19:48 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on September 18, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on September 18, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 18, 2009, 02:41:30 PM
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 03:33:14 PM
As far as the revolver over semi auto argument for the increase in capacity i think that is more of a preference thing in capacity, being able to carry comfortably and concealed is more important, having 12 rounds and being uncomfortable is not good.
Different size people can carry differnt Firearms, my other half carries a S&W ladysmith in .38, i cant stand that little gun but for her it's great, i used to carry a subcompact .40 that only held 7 rounds but have switched to a Smith 340pd, only 5 rounds but it weighs 12oz and i can carry it in different positions (on body or ankle) with no problems even wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
I would love to carry my kimber .45 but that is not pratical for me, and im not a little guy either.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 18, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 03:44:16 PM
Get an auto... unless you plan on packing it in Dodge City... circa 1875. I carry a 4" (service size) XD... with the Mec-Gar mags it's 18+1 and weighs about 32oz.Holy cow 19 rounds, that is laying down the lead curtain :yike:
How long is that gun with that mag installed??
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 03:45:45 PM
What? No .45 in the butt crack holster? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:I gain any more weight i could hide a desert eagle in there. :yike:
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 04:27:02 PM
Holy cow 19 rounds, that is laying down the lead curtain :yike:
How long is that gun with that mag installed??
You wouldn't know I had it on me.... nobody has made me yet. My wife knows I'm heeled everywhere I go, yet she has never said anything about me printing or that she noticed the pistol at all.
It's a standard service size pistol... almost exactly the same size as a 1911 with a 4" slide... a little thicker through the grip... but not much.
Post by: markts on September 18, 2009, 04:29:53 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 04:30:47 PM
That mag hangs out the bottom of the grip? from the top of the slide to the bottom of the mag is it longer than from the back of the slide to the front of the barrel?Holy cow 19 rounds, that is laying down the lead curtain :yike:
How long is that gun with that mag installed??
You wouldn't know I had it on me.... nobody has made me yet. My wife knows I'm heeled everywhere I go, yet she has never said anything about me printing or that she noticed the pistol at all.
It's a standard service size pistol... almost exactly the same size as a 1911 with a 4" slide... a little thicker through the grip... but not much.
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 05:02:26 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
Nope... flush fit mag, and the slide is longer than the distance from the rear sight to the bottom of the mag (also, the standard mags are 16+1). Very well designed pistol... the best of the polymer guns.Very cool, i have not gotten to fondle one yet...
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 05:21:58 PM
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And here it is on my person as I'm typing this... that's a standard weight T-Shirt and a pair of flat-front khaki shorts... I'm a pretty big guy though, so it's a little easier for me to conceal a little bit bigger pistol.
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Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2009, 08:01:40 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 08:11:17 PM
like the law says "concealed"
and if you can conceal it and it's comfortable then you will carry it.
Like the XD, cant see it
Like timberghost said "comfortable"
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2009, 08:43:43 PM
If i get in a fire fight with JOSHT im sure in trouble though.. :chuckle:
I don't know about that. 8+1 well place rounds could be better than 18+1 poorly placed rounds. If you need that many you should practice more. Adrenaline not included :chuckle:.
Post by: Buckmark on September 18, 2009, 09:07:05 PM
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 09:37:19 PM
If i get in a fire fight with JOSHT im sure in trouble though.. :chuckle:
I don't know about that. 8+1 well place rounds could be better than 18+1 poorly placed rounds. If you need that many you should practice more. Adrenaline not included :chuckle:.
Shot placement is what it's all about, and that goes for anything: pistols, bows, .300 RUMs, throwing stars, Chuck Norris round-house kicks, poo flung by a monkey, etc... if it don't hit where it needs to go... schitt doesn't go down (unless it's the Chuck Norris round-house... just the thought of that actually incapacitated me for a few minutes while typing this response). I just prefer the capacity for making 19 good hits... vs. 9... even though only a couple are necessary.
I'm practicing quite a bit... at least 200 rounds a month... plus another 100 or so rounds fired in competitive defensive shooting matches. I don't remember the last time I stood at a range and fired my pistol at a "target". All my practice is done from my CC rig... on IDPA targets... draw, aim, controlled pairs on multiple targets... out to 25 yards or so. Much more practical... and WAY more fun.
I would really encourage any of you who carry daily to shoot some IDPA... even one or two matches will provide you with a wealth of knowledge that can only be (safely) aquired in this format. Shooting from cover, on the move, engaging multiple targets at odd distances... all under the "stress" of the clock. You'll get to know yourself and your weapon very well in only a couple of afternoons. It truly could save your life.... or the lives of the ones you love. Hell, it's like taking CPR once a year... only you get to shoot schitt. There's a match at the Renton Fish & Game club tomorrow starting at 10:00... if you're free... come check it out, it will really change your perception of carrying a pistol.
Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Post by: JoshT on September 18, 2009, 10:30:14 PM
You really should give it a try... it's a kick in the pants... and very valuable information.
Post by: timberghost72 on September 19, 2009, 08:21:11 AM
Post by: yorketransport on September 19, 2009, 09:21:46 AM
The key to all of them is the holster. I only carry IWB. That means my only concern is that my shirt doesn't come above the belt. Once I found Cross Breed Holsters http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/ (http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/) I was good to go. The quality is top notch, The price is right on, and they were fast to fill the order. With the right holster, I say just find the gun that you like and go with it.
Andrew
Post by: Straight Shooter on September 19, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
I personnaly don't feel the need for ultra high capacity... If you can't stop the threat within the first 5-6 rounds, you're probably already dead or in pretty bad trouble. :twocents:
What ever you carry, make sure that your are absolutely familiar with it and that it will absolutely function when needed.
Post by: jdb on September 19, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on September 19, 2009, 11:43:09 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 20, 2009, 06:11:40 AM
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Post by: ICEMAN on September 20, 2009, 06:17:33 AM
Post by: ribka on September 20, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
For size, comfortability, durability, resistance to rust and carrying it every day while hunting, fishing, shopping, hiking etc, would suggest a small 5 shot 38 spl. revolver with plus P ammo. S&W makes a nice one and would also suggest carrying a few loaded speed loaders if 5 shots is not enough for you. Ruger and Taurus make light weight revolvers too that are decent firearms for the money. You will find that you will not carry your firearm if it is not comfortable to carry and easy to conceal. That is why I suggest the small revolver.
Carry mine everywhere and I find because of size and easiness for concealment, comfortability I typically will take the revolver. In the pants band holster or a fanny pack
Remember safe handling of your firearms and practice, practice, practice on a regular and safe basis, and suggest taking a concealed carry shooting course from a reputable instructor.
Post by: C-Money on September 20, 2009, 02:01:01 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on September 20, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on September 20, 2009, 02:57:40 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on September 20, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Post by: thinkingman on September 21, 2009, 08:45:22 AM
I would seriously consider a polymer or alloy 38+p revolver.
I think SW 642 is about perfect.
I have shot a SW 360 357magnumb and it is the most violent handgun I've ever shot, and I've shot the most powerful handguns made.
Post by: dawei on September 21, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
I like the little Beretta tomcat in .25 auto.FWIW the Beretta® Tomcat™ is a 32ACP. The Bobcat™ is available in 22LR of 25ACP.
Post by: littlebuf on September 21, 2009, 09:30:40 PM
Post by: Remmark on September 29, 2009, 03:29:10 AM
What is important that you don't hear much about is how does a particular gun fit your body for concealed carry.
I can carry a S & W Model 29, 4" barrel better that alot of autos out there that are a lot smaller due to my body configuration. I am a little guy at 135 lbs. I have trouble getting an auto to feel somewhat comfortable whereas almost any reolver "fits" immediately with almost any holster. My favorite carry revolver is a Ruger Speed Six,2 3/4" .38 special. Although, I was not opposed to carrying an 8 shot 3 1/2 " S & W model 27 occassionally that I had.
Post by: chrisb on September 29, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 29, 2009, 09:35:42 AM
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I carry a Beretta 92FS. :)
Me too most of the time, in the field I carry a FN FiveSeven to cut down on weight and give me more range.
Post by: Caseyd on September 29, 2009, 10:02:24 AM
i had AJ concealaco make me a custom IWB holster for my HK. i can wear it all day. i dont know how you guys wear those blade techs, they look a might uncomfortable. i gotta have leather. horse hide in fact
:iamwithstupid: :brew:
Kramer IWB horse hide w/ glock 23 majority of the time
Post by: tlbradford on September 29, 2009, 10:31:39 AM
i had AJ concealaco make me a custom IWB holster for my HK. i can wear it all day. i dont know how you guys wear those blade techs, they look a might uncomfortable. i gotta have leather. horse hide in fact
:iamwithstupid: :brew:
Kramer IWB horse hide w/ glock 23 majority of the time
I don't know how you guys carry IWB all day.
Someone mentioned they need to keep it near the belt line. I do too. That is why I went with the blackhawk check six with a Colt Commander. FWIW I would rather not go with any holster that doesn't snap to your belt or let your belt thread through it. Last thing I want to have happen is for the holster to come out with the gun when drawing.
I am going eventually get a small revolver or kahr with an ankle or pocket holster for when I wear a tucked-in shirt for work.
Post by: ecnclan on September 29, 2009, 07:27:04 PM
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The "best" one is what you feel the most comfortable with, handle the best and shoot the best for you, If your comfortable with the Firearm then you will carry it, if not people tend to leave it home and it is no good there. Handle alot of the Firearms you are considering and try to if you can shoot them. load and unload and try putting them in the holster you plan on using and on your person to see if it works for you.
As far as the revolver over semi auto argument for the increase in capacity i think that is more of a preference thing in capacity, being able to carry comfortably and concealed is more important, having 12 rounds and being uncomfortable is not good.
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:yeah:
Carry a Ruger SP101. May not work for some but I've never felt undergunned with it.
Post by: PWN Kurt on September 30, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
I'm happy with it. Luckily, I've never had to use it.
Kurt
Post by: coachcw on October 13, 2009, 09:14:15 PM
Post by: Straight Shooter on October 14, 2009, 01:12:08 PM
how often does a revolver miss fire? how many shots at point blank due you need ? autos are a blast to shoot but I'll stick to my revoler when my lifes on the line.
:yeah:
Eventhough my CCWs are semi-autos, I have to agree. Can't beat a good 4" .357 with 110-125 gr .38+p's for home protection... maybe, a pump 12 gauge w/#4's... messy! :o
Post by: Gutpile on October 14, 2009, 01:19:07 PM
Have carried both revolvers and semi autos for work for over 20 years. I usually carry both an auto and a back-up revolver.
For size, comfortability, durability, resistance to rust and carrying it every day while hunting, fishing, shopping, hiking etc, would suggest a small 5 shot 38 spl. revolver with plus P ammo. S&W makes a nice one and would also suggest carrying a few loaded speed loaders if 5 shots is not enough for you. Ruger and Taurus make light weight revolvers too that are decent firearms for the money. You will find that you will not carry your firearm if it is not comfortable to carry and easy to conceal. That is why I suggest the small revolver.
Carry mine everywhere and I find because of size and easiness for concealment, comfortability I typically will take the revolver. In the pants band holster or a fanny pack
Remember safe handling of your firearms and practice, practice, practice on a regular and safe basis, and suggest taking a concealed carry shooting course from a reputable instructor.
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Post by: skynimrod on October 19, 2009, 09:06:07 PM