Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2009, 08:30:10 AM
am i imagining things or did they get rid of it this year?
Post by: julzzz on September 25, 2009, 08:40:26 AM
Post by: cabin308 on September 25, 2009, 09:23:12 AM
The only youth season I can think of that opens before the general season is the statewide youth only upland bird hunt this weekend (Sept 26-27). :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
There is a youth modern firearm season in some Eastern WA GMUs like last year but they removed the late season any WT deer in NE WA GMUs. Plus there are the youth special permits for deer, too.
The only youth season I can think of that opens before the general season is the statewide youth only upland bird hunt this weekend (Sept 26-27). :dunno:
i should have been more specific. last year there was a youth only whitetail hunt in the NE and if i remember correctly it was the weekend before the general modern opener. i have looked over the reg's thoroughly(by my standards) and found nothing this year. i could have missed something.
youths can still shoot whitetail does down in some gmu's in the Blues this year during general, but i couldn't find the youth NE seasons.
Post by: cabin308 on September 25, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/huntregs2008.pdf
Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2009, 10:32:36 AM
You're right, I went through this years regs and found nothing about an early youth hunt. On that note though, looking at the 2008 regs I can't find what you're saying about an early opening youth hunt last year that got eliminated this year? :dunno: Not trying to :stirthepot: or call you out but I don't see it. :)
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/huntregs2008.pdf
you're certainly not calling me out or stirring the pot. i said i could be imagining things 2-3 times.
Post by: cabin308 on September 25, 2009, 11:19:01 AM
last year there was a youth only whitetail hunt in the NE and if i remember correctly it was the weekend before the general modern opener. i have looked over the reg's thoroughly(by my standards) and found nothing this year. i could have missed something.
Post by: runningboard on September 25, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2009, 12:13:47 PM
last year's NE youth season ran from the close of modern season until the open of late season. shortened this year.
thank you..i guess i had it on the wrong end of the season.
Post by: turbo on September 25, 2009, 02:49:16 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 25, 2009, 03:05:17 PM
-Steve
Post by: bowpredator on September 25, 2009, 04:34:08 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 25, 2009, 04:57:54 PM
Post by: lazydrifter on September 25, 2009, 05:07:41 PM
I hope I made sense with all of this babble.
Brant
Post by: runningboard on September 25, 2009, 06:28:57 PM
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I'll bet it had to do with the winter kill in the NE.:yeah:
Post by: nw_bowhunter on September 25, 2009, 06:36:06 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on September 25, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
The state started cutting back on a lot of the youth seasons some years ago. They had alot of 200 unit seasons that were either sex whitetail and mulie for youth. I was told that they had to many complaints from adult hunters because the kids all wanted to shoot bucks so they were shooting alot of the 2 points. Then they went to a permit and it was for a doe or 3 point or better. In a lot of the 100 unit areas it still is either sex for youth but it must be a whitetail and it is not a permit.
I hope I made sense with all of this babble.
Brant
In the 200 units in the Columbia Basin, youth general was switched to permit only to limit buck harvest, as escapement was suffering in some units. That tied in nicely with the need to go permit only for youth in GMUs in Chelan and Okanogan Counties on National Forest where a LOT of dirtbag dads were covering illegal does with kids' tags. It was an LE, not buck escapement issue on the NF. Most of the dirtbag daddies are not the type to put their kids in for permits, so permit-only also helped cut out an opportunity for the worst of the ranks to launder an illegal doe. That is not PC, but is fact, and it worked very well. As always, it is the dirtbags among us who spoil things for all of us.
Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
Post by: PA BEN on September 26, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
Hunters 65 and Over, Disabled, or Youth Modern Firearm General Deer Seasons
Eastern
Washington
White-tailed Deer
Oct. 17-30 101-124 Any white-tailed deer
Oct. 17-25 127-142, 145, 154, Deer Area 1010, 172-178 White-tailed, 3 pt. min. or , antlerless
Post by: PolarBear on September 26, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
Post by: PA BEN on September 27, 2009, 06:56:28 AM
We use to run into guys who had a truck load of kids in the hills. The dad would shoot the doe and the kid would tag it. We watched one guy with 4 kids in his rig shoot 3 mulie does (actually one was still a fawn) from the window of his truck in the same clearcut above Chelan. By the end of the day they all had their does. That is one reason that I am against an open doe season for youth, the kids didn't shoot them, the dad did.As far as my family it's the best way to get kids out hunting. I know there is the DIP-S#^t out there shooting them for there kids, but I don't and I know a lot of first time kid hunters who shoot there own deer. I'm sure these dads who shot there kids deer are doing a lot more damage in other areas of there kids lives too. I think it's good and turn in the poachers.
Post by: jackelope on September 27, 2009, 08:09:56 AM
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PAGE; 17 2009 REG.s
Hunters 65 and Over, Disabled, or Youth Modern Firearm General Deer Seasons
Eastern
Washington
White-tailed Deer
Oct. 17-30 101-124 Any white-tailed deer
Oct. 17-25 127-142, 145, 154, Deer Area 1010, 172-178 White-tailed, 3 pt. min. or , antlerless
PA Ben-
thanks ;) , i read this years regs, i was more curious about last years.
Post by: lazydrifter on September 27, 2009, 08:39:55 AM
Post by: PolarBear on September 27, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
Post by: runningboard on September 27, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
Post by: Schmalzfam on October 05, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
I do think it wouldn't be a bad idea that with the youth's first deer/elk tag came some type of permit for a doe/cow. But, I don't think that just because they are youth they should be able to shoot anything. I think it teaches them that they need to always be aware of what they are shooting and the laws of different areas. I mean otherwise it could turn into who cares just shoot it for many years. I think they are doing a fine job with the way they handle the youth hunts.