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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: Bearhunter on September 30, 2009, 03:56:31 PM
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I am here to tell you guys, if you dont have a badlands pack yet, go get one. I own many packs which include Bull Pacs, Sitka Bivy 45, Eberlstock J104, Eberlstock Sling Shot, 2 Kings packs and various others. Ive had my Badlands 2800 for probably over 7 years, and am finally breaking it down with the use and abuse its been through, I always end up using my Badlands over all the others. So I called there customer service today, and I am here to tell you its unparreled! The guys not only know packs but they know how to take care of there customers. I will quarantee you one thing I will never buy anything but badlands again. The new Sitka Bivy 45 I bought last winter, well its going to the wayside. Im going with a New Badlands Ox when they come available! Sitka makes great clothing but there packs dont quite stack up to Badlands! Heres a few pictures off my work computer of a few animals Ive taken while toting my trusty old 2800!
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Here, Here! I just bought one and love it so far. In fact, I think I'm going to buy my wife a 2200 for when we go out together. She doesn't hunt with me so I'll have another choice for shorter trips or scouting trips. They do rock!
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Do they all come with bucks kittys and bulls like yours??? if so im sold!
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Do they all come with bucks kittys and bulls like yours??? if so im sold!
:yeah: I got one and I love it, but I have not seen my kitty, bull and big buck yet :dunno:
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I bought a badlands Superday pack and love it. Feels so good, I hardly know its there.
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What I love about mine is that it hits my body configuration perfectly, I hardly even notice its there until I fill it with meat. Load those new packs up with gear and food and hit the hills, it will happen!
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that one picture shows the pack with four wheels? I will agree with ya, they are nice. I own and use the sitka 45. When I buy another it will be the badlands 4500. I won't touch the OX until they shave some lbs. on that bad boy. Which I know they are trying to do
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Superday pack here too. They did a great job, the good fit pays back like good boots.
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Yes there is four wheels in the one picture, Its nice to every once in a while you find them close to an accessible old grade. Sure does keep the load in the pack lite. Had to pack this years bull just a little over a mile, all down hill though.
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I'm a Badlands believer. I've seen my cousin's 2200 do several miles with two bone in hind quarters off a good NM bull. Probably 125+ pounds on that pack. No problem (well, at least not for the pack). Last week I had 80 lbs. or so (backstraps, tloin, liver, heart, both front quarters, hide) strapped to my RT Day Pack. No problem. When we got back to camp, I unloaded everything out of my pack, walked down to the creek, and hand washed the blood out of the pack. Next day it was already dry and almost no sign of blood anywhere. Couldn't be happier.
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I have an old 2200? 2800? not sure which. It is from before they stitched it on. I also have a new 4500. My old one is starting to rip out in 3 places. And I have broke 2 buckles on my new 4500. But they are both very comfortable packs. I have extremely overloaded both of them. I delt with customer service once, it was painless. Overall very happy with mine, but I don't know if I will be as fond of the new 2800. I think it is too choppy, and quite heavy. And I don't think the shoulder straps are as comfortable as the old ones. I was thinking of trying Blacks Creek bonecollector 2.5.
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Bow-n-head, I dont think the blacks creek straps will be any more comfortable than the new badlands style shoulder straps. I think they went away from the thicker more padded straps to cut down on some weight. My buddys loaded 2800 seemed very comfortable, just as much so as my old pack. If weight is an issue stay away from the Eberlstock the are heavy packs, nice to have a convenient scabbered though.
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Couldn't agree more! And just when you think it can't get any better...it always does! ;)
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I have a badlands Hypervent and love it! I think after this season, I am gonna sell my Eberlestock J104, and buy the new 4500. I want them to make a long trip pack that is like 6500 - 7500 c.u. though. Eventually I want to get the Mysteryranch 6500, but I can't quite afford it right now.
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I have a badlands Hypervent and love it! I think after this season, I am gonna sell my Eberlestock J104, and buy the new 4500. I want them to make a long trip pack that is like 6500 - 7500 c.u. though. Eventually I want to get the Mysteryranch 6500, but I can't quite afford it right now.
I would wait until they redesign the stays ( polycarbonate frames). Mine broke this year and were replaced for free, without sending the pack in. The guy I talked to said they are almost done designing some carbon fiber ones to replace the poly. They are supposed to be stronger than the poly and outlast aluminum.
Brandon
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Good packs, they just need to fix those zippers.
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I'm glad you started this thread James. I have been looking at getting a new pack for deer season. Does anyone have the Badlands Hypervent Pack. I love the concept behind this pack, but a few of the reviews on Cabelas stated it can be very loud in the words, due to the material being stretched too tight. Looking for a few more reviews from hunters who have this pack. Is this something that will break in??? If its going to make a lot of noise when hiking, I'm going to go with something else.
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Josh, the hypervent is a great pack I love the fact that your back gets to breath when humping it up the hill. I wouldnt worry to much about the noise factor, the country you hunt is pretty open, and when your going through thick brush your not going to be that guite anyways. I would think about bumping up to the 2200 if I were you, its not a lot bigger but it will accomidate packing a boned out deer a lot better than the Hypervent. If your going to Montana next year with use you need a good pack to pack out meat, we dont drag our deer out thats way to much work....
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Yeah I was just looking at the 2200 prob. A better choice for the money. Now to find the best price.
Thanks for the help
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Bearhunter, have you tried the Kifaru? I will swear by the comfortability and weight packing part of mine. However, the noise is ridiculous. The material used is very durable, yet noisy as hell. Unless I'm packing in for a few days, I just use the day bag for all my gear located on the top of the pack. Every step you take, you hear the bag shuffle. I'm in the process of having a custom fleece bag built and then I will call it the ultimate pack. Was thinking about getting another pack to try. As I take it, you definately prefer the 2200 Badlands over the Sitka and Eberlestock? I've used the Mystery Ranch and it's a nice pack, but not for me.
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I really like my Badlands 2800 and use it as a daypack more or less. I'll use it for an overnight trip but anything longer or for bad weather where I'm packing more gear, my Mystery Ranch beats the Badlands 4500......IMO
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Great feedback guys. Mystery ranch packs are intriquing but they are expensive as hell. >----->
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I have the Ultimate? fanny pack and the Hypervent. Love'em both, I just wish the Hyper was a bit bigger for those all day Elk hunts. It's perfect for deer hunting, but I always carry more for elk. I tried to get the Superday, but they were out and I went for the Hyper instead.
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Great feedback guys. Mystery ranch packs are intriquing but they are expensive as hell. >----->
I bought the Mystery Ranch this year. It replaced a Bozeman made Dana Designs 6500ci that I used HARD for about 15 years. The stitching was still holding, broke a couple of buckles, but I finally replaced it b/c the aluminum stays ripped through the top. I pretty much considered it wore-out.
Mystery Ranch is owned and run by the founder of Dana Designs, kind of a no brainer for me.
They are expensive but you will get your moneys worth.
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Just got me a Badlands whitetail Hybrid pack, love it. I have the original badlands day pack I bought 10 years ago. Still holding up, oldlady uses it on berry pickin missions.
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Another thumbs up for Mystery Ranch - I have 2. http://shop.mysteryranch.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5850/.f?sc=8&category=24 (http://shop.mysteryranch.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5850/.f?sc=8&category=24)
The Crew Cab has to be one the most versatile hunting packs going - definitely made for the prospect of hauling heavy meat loads.
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I'm glad you started this thread James. I have been looking at getting a new pack for deer season. Does anyone have the Badlands Hypervent Pack. I love the concept behind this pack, but a few of the reviews on Cabelas stated it can be very loud in the words, due to the material being stretched too tight. Looking for a few more reviews from hunters who have this pack. Is this something that will break in??? If its going to make a lot of noise when hiking, I'm going to go with something else.
I have the Hypervent. Bought it mainly for packing my spotting scope...a 20x60x 82mm Nikon Pro Staff. For those who wonder, my larger scope fits into the dedicated scope pouch very nicely. The pack is a joy to wear.........very comfortable. Son has a Superday.........another great pack.
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I'm also a firm believer in Badlands. I don't know how many miles I have on mine but it's at least a couple hundred. The 2800 is great for an all purpose. Filled lightly makes a great daypack. We also use ours for trips up to 6 days when we're going in 10-12 miles. We pack 1 man tents, sleeping bags and pads, food and cookware, hunting equipment and all of the other little stuff and it fits perfectly and organized.
This year we packed our camps and a deer out in one trip (10 miles) without a problem. anybody want to buy ALL of my other packs?
and they will hold a bunch of sheds :IBCOOL:
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I'm also a firm believer in Badlands. I don't know how many miles I have on mine but it's at least a couple hundred. The 2800 is great for an all purpose. Filled lightly makes a great daypack. We also use ours for trips up to 6 days when we're going in 10-12 miles. We pack 1 man tents, sleeping bags and pads, food and cookware, hunting equipment and all of the other little stuff and it fits perfectly and organized.
This year we packed our camps and a deer out in one trip (10 miles) without a problem. anybody want to buy ALL of my other packs?
and they will hold a bunch of sheds :IBCOOL:
I've got a question for you: I have a 3200 pack that I use (an Osprey that I use when I'm hiking around during the summer) and the trouble is not weight but bulk. What tent/bag/pad do you use to keep the bulk down so that you can get everything in the pack? By the time I put my water bladder, bag, and pad in it, it's pretty much 3/4 full - let alone the tent, food/stove and a jacket + pack raincoat. Just curious about how you make this happen - there are a lot of guys doing this but I always go with a larger pack for overnight, even though it's never all the way full.
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I'm also a firm believer in Badlands. I don't know how many miles I have on mine but it's at least a couple hundred. The 2800 is great for an all purpose. Filled lightly makes a great daypack. We also use ours for trips up to 6 days when we're going in 10-12 miles. We pack 1 man tents, sleeping bags and pads, food and cookware, hunting equipment and all of the other little stuff and it fits perfectly and organized.
This year we packed our camps and a deer out in one trip (10 miles) without a problem. anybody want to buy ALL of my other packs?
and they will hold a bunch of sheds :IBCOOL:
I've got a question for you: I have a 3200 pack that I use (an Osprey that I use when I'm hiking around during the summer) and the trouble is not weight but bulk. What tent/bag/pad do you use to keep the bulk down so that you can get everything in the pack? By the time I put my water bladder, bag, and pad in it, it's pretty much 3/4 full - let alone the tent, food/stove and a jacket + pack raincoat. Just curious about how you make this happen - there are a lot of guys doing this but I always go with a larger pack for overnight, even though it's never all the way full.
My sleeping gas is not the smallest, I like to put my extra clothes/rain gear in it and then roll it up and put it in a compression sack. My tent is a Northface Canyonlands and it fits in the side pocket of my pack.I use a cheap roll up foam pad(not real comfy but it keeps me from soaking up the cold ground) it's strapped on the bottom of my pack. The hardest thing to fit is food, which I take plenty of. A better (smaller) sleeping bag is in my future.
my dad uses the Big agnes seedhouse 2 tent. (not sure why he needs a 2 man for himself???) there's a top flap on our packs and he secures his tent right under that. These packs just seem to have just the right storage.
I'm trying to figure out a setup where I can leave my pad and bag in the tent, roll it up and strap it on. It'd probably be easy with a Bivy sack but I like to sit up and get dressed and store my gear in my tent.
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they are nice packs
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I have a Hypervent for easy day hunts, and scouting/hiking, and I recently bought a Eberlestock J104 for extended trips, and harder day hunts, after a few hunts, I am not a huge fan of it, but am gonna use it through this season, though next season I plan to sell it and get a Badlands 4500, and eventually get a Mystery Ranch 6500.
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Badlands are *censored*!!! I have the 2800 for hunting the diablo for day hikes and scouting and the monster fanny for whatever else I feel like!!! They handle more wieght better than any pack on the market without a doubt!!! If anyone is thinking of a new pack you got to give them a try they are comfy :)
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They handle more wieght better than any pack on the market without a doubt!!!
That's bold. I've never used one, but am interested in a new pack that has a gun holder on the back that accepts a gun with bipod. Does Badlands make one of these? All I've noticed that accept a gun with bipod is the Eberlestock Gunslinger......?
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Badlands are good packs but as far as hauling weight I wouldn't put them up there with a barney bag or a mystery ranch pack. Just my :twocents:
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They handle more wieght better than any pack on the market without a doubt!!!
That's bold. I've never used one, but am interested in a new pack that has a gun holder on the back that accepts a gun with bipod. Does Badlands make one of these? All I've noticed that accept a gun with bipod is the Eberlestock Gunslinger......?
Bold ... Maybe??? But go to Sportsmans or Cabelas and take any of thier packs and stuff them with wieghts and then compare the feel to all of the other packs at the store. You'll find as I have that they are the most comfortable! Some of thier little day packs that wiegh about 3 pounds or les will handle 40-50 pounds no problem and they hold up to the punishment as well. The 2200 & 2800 line and up will take 70-80 pounds plus. It's a good idea for anyone to do this when you are ready to dump this much $ into a pack, who knows maybe one of the other Companies will suite you better :) I just know IMO Badlands fit me best!
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Badlands are good packs but as far as hauling weight I wouldn't put them up there with a barney bag or a mystery ranch pack. Just my :twocents:
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Don't forget the Kifaru either.
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Yep that looks like that'll do it! :chuckle:
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Anyone use their rolling duffle? Am thinking about getting one so I don't have to check a bow case as a separate bag on the plane.
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Yep that looks like that'll do it! :chuckle:
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I use kifaru and believe it's the best weight bearing most comfortable pack out there. Problem is, noisy material and my gun weighs more than I'm comfortable with in the kifaru gun bearer.
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I'd like to try a Kifaru on...I've been on their site and the packs look nice but it's hard to spend that much money without having one in your hands first.
I need to find a place that has them so that I can take a longer look at them. In the meantime, I'm happy with my Badlands. This year, I finally wore some holes in the bottom of the pack where I had stuff strapped to it, so I'm in the market...
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I'd like to try a Kifaru on...I've been on their site and the packs look nice but it's hard to spend that much money without having one in your hands first.
I need to find a place that has them so that I can take a longer look at them. In the meantime, I'm happy with my Badlands. This year, I finally wore some holes in the bottom of the pack where I had stuff strapped to it, so I'm in the market...
Trying not to hi-jack or get in any pissin' matches here but since you asked.....
You can get in on a Kifaru Rendezvous or see if there is someone local to you to try one out. Get on their Kifaru message board for unbiased help.
Both Mystery Ranch and Kifaru work without dealer and they are fantastic at doing it with great customer services all trying to get you the best pack available - and made in the US.
This is Kifaru's policy from their web site....
Why We Sell Only Factory Direct
In order to maintain a consistently high quality built-to order product, we do not use dealers. This also helps keep our costs down.
Returns
We understand that it can be difficult buying a product that is not on a shelf where you can try itout, touch it, feel it. These are built-to-order products. If you receive your order, and decide that it is just not for you, return it in unused, new condition WITHIN 30 DAYS for a full product refund (excluding shipping charges). You will also need to call for a return authorization. We offer counseling on the proper use and fit (if applicable) by email or phone, and we have an excellent record in assisting folks with the "learning curve" in getting top performance with our technical gear. We're happy to help!
Same deal with MR - I know several other MR owners put their packs to the test... and regardless of which company you prefer...coming out heavy is where its at...
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Thats an awesome pic!!
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Thats an awesome pic!!
It is :) - unfortunately it is not mine - it is the boys back in Montana.
I came across this one with Mystery Ranch Crew Cab and a moose quarter :o-
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I know I am too old for that kind of load anymore .
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I just missed the Kifaru Rendevous this year - I was coincidentally in the same location the week before - I will pay attention to the day/location next year.
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I've read alot of good things about those Mystery Ranch packs as well.
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Just ordered a J104 and had in next day aired for Monday. Compared it to the gunslinger, and thought it was a better overall, quieter pack. It barely accepts the rifle with bipod, but I was able to get it out rather quick. Now I guess I'll have to wait and see if it holds up and handles the pack out weight. :dunno:
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I have a Low-Alpine that I use in rifle season, when I don't need camo. It is definately more comfortable than my Badlands packs, especially when they are full of meat on the way out. It is a 6000 cubic inch internal frame pack. Badlands are nice packs, I will always have one, but I don't think they are perfect yet.
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My biggest problem with packs is quietness. NONE are quiet enough for me. The closest I've found other than a 100% fleece backpack, is the Nimrod pack system. I really like mine, but as far as packing weight with it, it is miserable...even with they're internal frame system. Someday a company will produce the ultimate all-around pack.......................I'll be waiting!