Post by: uplandhunter870 on October 18, 2009, 04:13:35 PM
I dont know what to think about this just wondering if theres any real truth to it or if its just a convienent excuse for not catching fish.
thanks,
steve
Post by: fishcrazy on October 18, 2009, 08:59:48 PM
Kris
Post by: tomy salami on October 25, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
The most important condition on the Colombia or its tribs, for me has been an old timer saying. "Wind from the west, fish bite the best.........wind from the east, fish bite the least." Remember that one. It is the damn truth.
In the end, who knows why...........waters still wet, aint it? Why wont they always bite when you find them? Huh Mr. Coho
Post by: cohoho on October 25, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
The most important condition on the Colombia or its tribs, for me has been an old timer saying. "Wind from the west, fish bite the best.........wind from the east, fish bite the least." Remember that one. It is the damn truth.
I'll tell you what, first I heard of it, but I am a believer of this theory after our past several trips to the Dam for Sturgeon, when it was blowing from the west we literally slammed them, but it was dead as it got when it came from the east.... Listen up Robodad, wait till Gail force winds from the west and give me a call...
Post by: fishcrazy on October 25, 2009, 08:19:15 PM
"Wind from the west, fish bite the best.........wind from the east, fish bite the least."
I agree!!! I've noticed the same thing.
Kris
Post by: tomy salami on October 25, 2009, 09:31:41 PM
It does kill morale,though, to wake up and see the wind not blowin right. Low confidence is more detrimental to success, than any rising water level, barometer change (up or down), or wind. The place that nobody catches fish on is the couch.
I tend to TRY to prove others wrong when I get stuck in winds like that. Consider it a challenge. Eeking out a fish under awful conditions has always been most fulfilling. Love it most in 6" minus vis, when NOBODY wants to try. Everybody likes to go when flow/vis/weather are mint. Going when things don't look to hot.........ughhhh.
Experimenting in crappy conditions sometimes will lead to a new patterns of where fish hide and what they will respond to, for sometime down the road when you get stuck in a similar position. Time on the water, good or bad conditions, only expands the mental playbook for backup plans.
I just try to fish for bites. It is the most accurate way of knowing what you are doing is working. Landing them...................whole different subject.
Post by: tomy salami on October 26, 2009, 01:43:40 AM
The whole wind thing applies not only to sturgeon. Springers, steelies, fall runs, on and on....anything in that river or its tribs. Including the Yakima River and Vernita area........hell, the saying was told to me by old, old men, (amazing fishermen) many moon ago.
Since I have known about it, is almost gospel truth anywhere I go in WA. Not sure about how walleye and the smallmouth behave, don't target em. Seems though, sturgeon were the least impacted of the lot. In fact, they were the backup plan when the wind changed while salmon fishing.
My theory of the why is: The Colombia is ALWAYS windy.......Seems like off the top of my head 80% from the west. The wind being from the east is not the problem. I guess it is the abnormality. (The large change in barometric pressure)
I don't think this info will get you into fish, just might explain why a trip got crappy. It is good to know that it usually is crappy for everybody else, it is a VERY equal opportunity phenomenon.
Forgive my long winded reply.
Post by: uplandhunter870 on October 27, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
thanks,
steve
Post by: fishcrazy on October 27, 2009, 06:47:23 PM
As for not fishing when the wind is from the East. I will check about everything before planning a trip but never check wind. I have the time to go fishing I go and adapt to the conditions. I also fish for the bite. My goal each time is to hook 1 fish. Fooling just 1 is all I want to do.
Kris
Post by: klickriverchromer on October 28, 2009, 07:04:16 PM
The most important condition on the Colombia or its tribs, for me has been an old timer saying. "Wind from the west, fish bite the best.........wind from the east, fish bite the least." Remember that one. It is the damn truth.:yeah
Oh ya. Truth be told..
Post by: Alchase on October 30, 2009, 12:30:22 PM
Water pressure (fluid pressure) does not increase from an increase in Barometric pressure. Fluid pressure is constant and directly related to depth.
Just curious?
Post by: robodad on October 30, 2009, 12:46:47 PM
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Listen up Robodad, wait till Gail force winds from the west and give me a call...
Sadly I don't think that would even work in my case Mike !!! I just plain stink !!! :P
Like you said before you just have to mention it to me and your trip is going to suck so I'm not sure what to do !!
I'm willing to give it a try though !!! :chuckle:
Post by: tomy salami on October 30, 2009, 01:10:01 PM
The science in my boat applies to the conditions when the most fish are caught compared to the conditions when the least are caught. I have cross referenced the patterns with other fishermen, getting similar results.
Eastern winds are a definite hindrance..............no two ways about it.
Patterns are always changing year to year......season to season.....week to week......day to day.
The E. wind pattern is a constant....under the parameters of fishing in WA for salmon/steel.
Bass fishermen are big on barometer readings too.
Your right when you say water cannot be pressurized by the atmosphere. How do fish know? I am not sure, but they act differently for some reason, that part is fact.
Post by: newbs55 on October 30, 2009, 02:03:49 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on October 30, 2009, 06:58:10 PM
See i have heard a steady or declining barometric pressure is best for the bite but a rising barometer gives them lockjaw.
:yeah:
Kris
Post by: Alchase on November 02, 2009, 07:13:44 AM
Post by: Dicko Bob on November 14, 2009, 08:46:52 PM
This could be 20 minutes or even a full day of hot action depending on season.
After the rain is gone and the storm leaves, the pressure climbs the fish get "lockjaw" or inactive.
I have found that these changes in barometric pressure effect fish more in the summer and fall then winter and spring.
Rich