Post by: spin05 on October 28, 2009, 04:00:33 AM
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2009/oct/23/need-a-cabin-site-longview-fibre-tracts-on-the/#WES
Post by: phishisgroovin on October 28, 2009, 06:35:29 AM
$300 an acre? wow. Even if its just to have your OWN campsite for Elk & Deer camp lol!
Post by: JBar on October 28, 2009, 07:29:03 AM
Post by: halflife65 on October 28, 2009, 07:33:10 AM
I'm in for 300 now we just need 636 more of us, I wouldn't mind pitching in 300 to get at least on section to donate to the mule deer foundation.
That's an interesting idea...
Post by: HUNT on October 28, 2009, 07:38:07 AM
I'm in for 300 now we just need 636 more of us, I wouldn't mind pitching in 300 to get at least on section to donate to the mule deer foundation.
Make it 635 more of us! Im in.
Post by: uncoolperson on October 28, 2009, 08:00:16 AM
Post by: hunt4 on October 28, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
ibo, sci, ( who else have i given money to) could ban together to buy up a few tracks of this land.
you could count me in for an acre
Post by: fisheral87 on October 28, 2009, 08:37:11 AM
Is this a valid argument? Opinions? (As if I needed to ask for them. :chuckle:)
I don't know what the repercussions of using this funding would be on hunting access. Anyone know?
Post by: fisheral87 on October 28, 2009, 08:38:09 AM
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wish the elk foundation, sheep foundation, mule deer foundation, turkey foundation,
ibo, sci, ( who else have i given money to) could ban together to buy up a few tracks of this land.
:yeah:
Post by: fisheral87 on October 28, 2009, 08:55:01 AM
Post by: JBar on October 28, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
Post by: luvtohnt on October 29, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
My email
It was recently brought to my attention that some property, in Chelan county, that is owned and managed by Longview Fibre is coming up for public sale. We all know that the state budget is suffering and there is no site of a turnaround, so WDFW could not afford these properties, but can federal funds be used to purchase this property of interest under some kind of wildlife restoration for endangered species fund? While the wolves are a hot topic, I would not be opposed to seeing this land be turned over to state or federal control, to benefit the expansion of the wolves within our state. Now as long as access remains open to the public and they do not completely shut down the land I would be happy to help make this happen. I would hate to see good sustainable forest be sold to the public and loose even more viable wildlife habitat then we already have. Looking at the fact sheet for grants we (the state of Washington) has received millions for these kind of projects. I realize that the deadline has expired but are there any steps to get the ball rolling and possibly buy up some of this prime habitat. Included is the link to the article stating the land for sale. http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2009/oct/23/need-a-cabin-site-longview-fibre-tracts-on-the/#WES
Thanks for your time,
Their response
Dear Mr.
I appreciate you alerting WDFW to the sale of these Longview Fibre tracts north of Cashmere, WA. I coordinate the Cooperative Endangered Species grant program for WDFW but do not nominate sites for acquisition. This is done by our regional staff, so I am referring this information to David Volsen, our District Wildlife Biologist in Wenatchee and Matt Monda, Regional Manager in Ephrata. They have knowledge of the wildlife and habitats in this area and can determine whether it would be a priority for WDFW to own or perhaps suggest purchase by a forest investment trust or other conservation entity. Here is the link to the real estate broker’s website, http://www.rmnw-auctions.com/.
I am referring your email to the local land trust and Pacific Forest Trust for their suggestions as well.
Chelan-Douglas Land Trust
15 Palouse St
Wenatchee, WA 98801-2230
Phone: (509) 667-9708
Fax: (509) 667-0719
E-Mail: cdlt@cdlandtrust.org
Website: www.cdlandtrust.org
Pacific Forest Trust
Washington Office
Phone: 206.682.0677
http://www.pacificforest.org/
We appreciate your support in maintaining working forest lands for wildlife conservation and recreation.
Elizabeth Rodrick
Land Conservation Manager
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way N
Olympia, WA 98501-1091
360-902-2696
FAX 360-902-2162
elizabeth.rodrick@dfw.wa.gov
Brandon
Post by: fisheral87 on October 30, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
Al
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 30, 2009, 11:26:26 AM
Post by: Lowedog on October 30, 2009, 11:42:41 AM
">Doing the math you're getting 673 acres for what it would cost for FOUR acres in East Wenatchee. Pretty huge price diff. for WAY more land.<
Yep, you get way more land, but what can you do with it? You can't develop it. You probably need a special permit just to cut down a single tree after you conduct an environmental impact assessment, lol. In short, Longview Fibre wants out and they're looking for someone to assume their risk. Build a cabin on it? Try obtaining a building permit first. You can't divert a stream for any purpose so maybe you could sink a well--permit required. If you can get 5 GPM for drinking water, then you have to put in a "waste treatment facility"--better known as a septic and drain-field--permit required along with numerous inspections and additional environmental impact assessments, lol. No power drop available so you have to go off-grid and do solar cuz your SO refuses to cut and split wood while you drink beer and belch orders. Most of these parcels are "south slope" offerings which means very hot and very dry for about 8 months out of the year--think fire hazard and associated liability. All things considered, without logging rights, it's virtually worthless unless you can find enough investors willing to put up equal amounts of money to buy one parcel outright and then share in an "undivided interest" that would allow all owners to share equally in the ownership benefits as well as the ownership responsibilities and liabilities--good luck with that, considering all the legal ramifications."
I would be surprised if any of this is purchased by any private individual. If any or all of it is bought it will most likely be by a land trust or something. It would be nice to see the USFS buy this land.
There has been a lot of former Longview property up for auction over the last few years.
Post by: Caseyd on October 30, 2009, 11:54:22 AM
Yet is seems to be a fairly inexpensive price for 6,500 acres that people from all over the state use(~$2 million)
Post by: jstone on October 30, 2009, 12:12:23 PM
Post by: eastside boy on October 30, 2009, 10:33:18 PM
Reading the comments below the article this guy pretty much nailed it.
">Doing the math you're getting 673 acres for what it would cost for FOUR acres in East Wenatchee. Pretty huge price diff. for WAY more land.<
Yep, you get way more land, but what can you do with it? You can't develop it. You probably need a special permit just to cut down a single tree after you conduct an environmental impact assessment, lol. In short, Longview Fibre wants out and they're looking for someone to assume their risk. Build a cabin on it? Try obtaining a building permit first. You can't divert a stream for any purpose so maybe you could sink a well--permit required. If you can get 5 GPM for drinking water, then you have to put in a "waste treatment facility"--better known as a septic and drain-field--permit required along with numerous inspections and additional environmental impact assessments, lol. No power drop available so you have to go off-grid and do solar cuz your SO refuses to cut and split wood while you drink beer and belch orders. Most of these parcels are "south slope" offerings which means very hot and very dry for about 8 months out of the year--think fire hazard and associated liability. All things considered, without logging rights, it's virtually worthless unless you can find enough investors willing to put up equal amounts of money to buy one parcel outright and then share in an "undivided interest" that would allow all owners to share equally in the ownership benefits as well as the ownership responsibilities and liabilities--good luck with that, considering all the legal ramifications."
I would be surprised if any of this is purchased by any private individual. If any or all of it is bought it will most likely be by a land trust or something. It would be nice to see the USFS buy this land.
There has been a lot of former Longview property up for auction over the last few years.
I sure hope you are right!!! This is basically in my backyard...would hate to see it ruined for public use. Doesn't sound like the state can do anything about it, in talking with one of the wildlife bios, he wishes they could buy it but said there is no money for this kind of purchase right now. Yes.... hopefully the forest service can obtain it!!