Post by: Track-er on October 31, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
Mike
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holy chit.... I'm going to get a beer i'll be back later :yike:
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Post by: Track-er on October 31, 2009, 06:15:22 PM
Mike
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What you gonna do for an encore now? :chuckle:
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Mulehunter :drool:
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NICE BUCK MAN!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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Speechless :dunno:
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NICE BUCK MAN!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Track-er on November 01, 2009, 07:06:40 PM
Mike
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Post by: Axle on November 02, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
He sure is a monster!
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Post by: Wea300mag on November 02, 2009, 06:51:30 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33447.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33447.0.html)
Post by: jjdavis2222 on November 02, 2009, 07:09:08 PM
How about a story? I went back thought the post and didnt see one.
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Post by: Track-er on November 02, 2009, 07:58:02 PM
Mike
Post by: 180-GRAIN on November 02, 2009, 08:28:33 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2009, 10:41:01 PM
Congrats again Track-er, thats one for the record books.
Post by: actionshooter on November 02, 2009, 11:06:50 PM
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Post by: Ridgerunner on November 03, 2009, 06:26:49 AM
Post by: Smokepole on November 03, 2009, 07:13:28 AM
I had a talk with Ruth Milner, blacktail deer biologist, a while back. According to her, there is no specification written to describe a bench leg, but she did say they do exist. "Crosses, do happen," is how she said it. Looking at the photos, the deer has mulie characteristics: the muzzle, antlers, hide coloration, and the tail is the clincher. But since it was bagged in a west-side location, it's legal, and I would have shot it in a heartbeat.
Call it what you want... it's one of the nicest looking west-side bucks I've seen. Congrats again!
Post by: fishunt247 on November 03, 2009, 09:14:03 AM
Post by: Axle on November 03, 2009, 09:14:47 AM
Thanks for posting the tail picks. And it does look like a true cross breed. I like those. Wish we had more pictures of those kind.
Regardless of it being cross, as long as it is west of the trail, it is legal.Ya baby! Something the department got right!
His rack sure makes him look like a pure blackie though.
I arrowed a full-blood mulie once in the stampede unit years ago. It was about 200 yards west of the line and only a 1x2 but still legal and good meat in the freezer.
Thanks again for the pictures Track-er. Mount that monster!
Post by: saylean on November 03, 2009, 01:28:07 PM
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Post by: link on November 03, 2009, 03:32:52 PM
Great job.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 04, 2009, 05:38:26 AM
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Post by: Axle on November 04, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
I really hope you save the tail end of that wonderfull and semi rare deer. Would be nice to have as a souvenir and great conversation piece. Get it tanned and hang it with the mounted head.
and again - congrats Track-er!
Post by: Ray on November 04, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
Great animal. I'd a shot that thing as well and would be proud.
Post by: Axle on November 04, 2009, 02:58:02 PM
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It might be a mixed blood deer but that doesn't really matter.
In my opinion, it does matter. It is a very rare deer and one that he can really brag on. Again, that is why I originally asked for butt pictures. I want to show this thing to all my friends and I think Track-er has some really big bragging rights. I think the tail has some brown down it and that makes it a mixed breed. I also think the tail end should be tanned and saved next to the mount. I have stated my opinion on what I think it is as far as percentage and again - nobody has questioned its legality as far as I can see. Only God knows for sure what mix it is but I don't think it is pure MD either. Others may think so but that is what this discusion is about too.
A MD/BT cross has been in my dreams for a long time. I would like to see more pictures of these bucks on this forum. :chuckle:
Post by: tlbradford on November 04, 2009, 03:09:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 04, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
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I would like to see more pictures of these bucks on this forum.
How many friends do you think Skyval has :rolleyes: J/K Sky ;)
Post by: Track-er on November 04, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Mike
Post by: tlbradford on November 04, 2009, 03:46:20 PM
Post by: Ray on November 04, 2009, 05:02:50 PM
The question of legality over this deer seems to keep coming up. I don't see where anyone has questioned the legality of it but the defense keeps popping up as if it is needing defense. I only asked for butt end pictures because I originally thought I saw mule deer ears. Everyone knows it is legal. Anyone who might think it isn't legal needs to read the regs. If they need help with that, then ask.QuoteIt might be a mixed blood deer but that doesn't really matter.
In my opinion, it does matter. It is a very rare deer and one that he can really brag on. Again, that is why I originally asked for butt pictures. I want to show this thing to all my friends and I think Track-er has some really big bragging rights. I think the tail has some brown down it and that makes it a mixed breed. I also think the tail end should be tanned and saved next to the mount. I have stated my opinion on what I think it is as far as percentage and again - nobody has questioned its legality as far as I can see. Only God knows for sure what mix it is but I don't think it is pure MD either. Others may think so but that is what this discusion is about too.
A MD/BT cross has been in my dreams for a long time. I would like to see more pictures of these bucks on this forum. :chuckle:
I defend it because people are calling it a mule deer. Nothing to do with legality concerns and everything to do with the right to clarifying what it will be considered in my statement. There are no hidden agendas regarding legality from me. So it being a cross breed does not matter one bit in the context of any remark I have made. Other than it will be considered as blacktail in the record books. My statement is correct. Yours might be too but they are of different context and you make things confusing. You are speaking of sentimental value. I am clearly not when it comes to my choice of words.
Nice deer. Now let's get past being focused on my positive remarks.
Post by: andrew_12gauge on November 04, 2009, 08:40:01 PM
Post by: 7mag. on November 04, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
Post by: 280ackley on November 04, 2009, 10:07:03 PM
Probably why B&C only counts blacktails as being west of I5.Not true, here is the B&C boundaries.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_boundaries.asp?area=bgRecords
By the way awesome buck Track-er! :drool:
Post by: Blacktail135 on November 05, 2009, 12:06:07 AM
After reading some more of the reply's........tie some flies with that tail!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Post by: Alchase on November 05, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
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Post by: DeerHarvester on November 06, 2009, 06:57:23 AM
Post by: Track-er on November 06, 2009, 09:11:03 PM
Thank You, Mike
Post by: Galpster on November 06, 2009, 09:32:34 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on November 06, 2009, 09:41:28 PM
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
That being said, who cares about the record books for a moment. It doesn't need to be entered, for that matter. This is an incredible buck no matter the DNA and as someone already said, there isn't a person here who wouldn't tag this buck in a hunting situation based on whether or not it will make the books. Anyone?
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 09:46:53 PM
Post by: Galpster on November 06, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Realx everyone, it is a GREAT BUCK and some of us do care what it scores!! I would submit it in a heartbeat. I do not see why anyone wouldn't. I would want to know if it was a BT or a MD and it doesn't matter one way or the other. It is a great buck.
Get it scored and let us know, we all are waqiting to see the score.
Thanks for listening and don't mind the negative posts on here, THEY ARE JUST JEALOUS!!!!!!
Post by: Track-er on November 06, 2009, 09:52:15 PM
What a monster!! Did you submit it for the B&C? If not why not?
Have to wait 60 days for official scoring.
Thanks,Mike
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 09:56:28 PM
Nothing about jealousy. It's a great deer and everyone acknowledges that fact clearly.
Post by: Galpster on November 06, 2009, 10:00:19 PM
I sure hope we find out!!!
GREAT BUCK AGAIN, I cannot say that enough!!
Post by: huntnphool on November 06, 2009, 10:02:16 PM
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 10:08:16 PM
All that may be true but according to the boundaries its a blacktail. I'm quite sure loads of the book bucks could have gone either way. Unless they make the boundary obvious so as there would be no question whether or not a mule deer came over the PCT, say maybe I-5, then there will ALWAYS!!! be room for question when a blacktail of any size is entered. Track-er didn't make the rules he's only going by what the "experts" have layed out.
Completely agree - and I'm not stating the record book boundaries are good or bad - they are what they are.
Post by: huntnphool on November 06, 2009, 10:16:56 PM
Post by: Axle on November 06, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester
Post by: Track-er on November 06, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
Dear Track-er
If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester
so noted
Post by: huntncoug on November 06, 2009, 11:46:34 PM
Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Colum.bia River near Cook
It ends up being around Baring in that area.
Post by: huntncoug on November 06, 2009, 11:48:11 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 07, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
Dear Track-er
If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester
I don't see photographer :rolleyes:
Post by: blacktail luv on November 07, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Post by: 180-GRAIN on November 07, 2009, 12:35:28 PM
Post by: ruttnbuck on November 07, 2009, 12:39:17 PM
Post by: blacktailer on November 07, 2009, 01:14:57 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 07, 2009, 01:19:31 PM
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I would call it a blacktail, get is scored in 60 days and let B & C decide what they want to do.
:yeah:
Post by: mule deer on November 07, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
Question. Are you calling this a blacktail because of the location it was shot?
Post by: Galpster on November 07, 2009, 04:43:59 PM
QuoteI would call it a blacktail, get is scored in 60 days and let B & C decide what they want to do.
:yeah:
X2 :yeah:
Post by: huntnphool on November 07, 2009, 04:44:07 PM
Post by: mule deer on November 07, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
Post by: Track-er on November 07, 2009, 04:55:19 PM
Mike
Post by: Alan K on November 07, 2009, 05:06:57 PM
Post by: Red Dawg on November 07, 2009, 05:23:35 PM
Post by: Track-er on November 07, 2009, 09:41:52 PM
Mike
Post by: bullcanyon on November 08, 2009, 06:25:55 AM
None the less. Congratulations. That's gonna be a tough deer to best in this state. There are bigger, but most of us junkies won't shoot a bigger one. But than again we gotta try.
Post by: EastWaViking on November 08, 2009, 08:30:49 AM
Post by: bow4elk on November 08, 2009, 08:43:33 AM
A few things to add. Correct me if I am wrong but 180 grain's statement is true regarding the state record book. Boone & Crockett does not have a classification for cascade blacktails. There are simply columbian blacktails and sitka blacktails. I also believe that there are no field photos REQUIRED to enter an animal in the book. If he had submitted a photo and cropped out the ass, we would not be having this conversation. As bow4elk, stated all the measurers would see the tail/rump and call this deer a muley. I think we all need to keep in mind that there are a lot of official B & C scorers that have neither seen nor scored a blacktail and would simply use B & C boundary descriptions to clarify if or not is is indeed a blacktail. I know a couple of scorers that have never hunted a day in their lives. They are antler collectors and that is why they become official scorers. My point is that just because someone is an official B & C scorer, it doesn't make him an expert in mule deer/blacktail classification. Bow4elk would definately be an exception. I would be willing to be that a lot of folks on here know as much or more than the average scorer. That being said, it is a hell of a buck. I would call it a blacktail, get is scored in 60 days and let B & C decide what they want to do. The rest is history,
True - NW Big Game, Inc. http://www.nwbiggame.com/ (publishes the state books for WA, OR, ID, MT) does indeed have a Cascade Blacktail classification. The Boone and Crockett Club does not, however. But, it is a widely known fact that deer don't care about boundaries, and that deer population dynamics vary depending on many factors. And it is true that there are a number or official measurers around who don't hunt, and many more that are not informed about Blacktails. "Benchlegs", as they are commonly referred, are the result of cross-breeding between mule deer and blacktails. Bucks may display characteristics of both species or heavily weighted one way or the other. The B&C Records Program has this to say about Mule Deer, Sitka, and Columbian Blacktail Deer:
The problem of properly defining the boundary between the large antlered mule deer, which ranges widely over most of the western third of the United States and western Canada, and its smaller relatives, the Columbia and Sitka blacktails of the West Coast, has been difficult from the beginning of the records keeping. The three varieties belong to the same species and thus are able to interbreed readily where their ranges meet. The intent of the Club in drawing suitable boundary lines is to exclude intergrades from each of the three categories. These boundaries have been redrawn as necessary, as more details have become known about the precise ranges of these animals.
Also, if you consider Scott Haugen's new book, he outlines the five variations of the Columbian Blacktail, speaking to these points. I've read his book and have found his science-based account very informative. I highly recommend it, especially for those following this thread. (By the way, he just got back from AK where he killed a big brown bear, and will be doing some late season blacktail seminars in at the new Wholesale Sports (formerly Sportsmen's Warehouse) stores...will be in Burlington at 2 pm on Nov. 7, Federal Way on Nov. 10 at 6:30 pm and on Nov. 11 at 6:30 pm in Vancouver)
I stand by my assessment that it will be up to the physical location of the kill and the B&C determination of specie. It's an awesome buck, regardless.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 08, 2009, 03:19:13 PM
Post by: andrew_12gauge on November 08, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
Look at my buck and then look at the poached deer in oregon.They look the same.
Mike
unfortunately we have no tail pics of the deer poached in oregon, your buck has a mule deer tail not a typical cross tail, dont get all worked up nobody is questioning that it is a nice buck for either species
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 08, 2009, 05:53:43 PM
The latest rangewide genetics work pretty clearly shows that during the last glacial period, and perhaps previous ones too, that constant isolation allowed the single species to differentiate. Since the end of the last ice age, there has been some interbreeding.
It is unlikely there are any truly genetically pure members of the subspecies, after at least 12,000 generations of deer post-isolation; a good geneticist will likely find a small amount of O.h.h. post-glacial DNA in every animal from the blacktail range sampled, and conversely a small (and I'd bet larger) amount of O.h.c. post-glacial DNA in O.h.h. from across the range. I've seen mule deer with blacktail traits in eastern Wyoming: browner coats, shorter ears, dark stripe down the tail (I've given affidavits on a few of these, where they were shot in whitetail-only seasons and the defense was claiming they were mule deer-whitetail hybrids; they were not, they were pure Odocoileus hemionus).
Here's the abstract from the March 2009 Molecular Biology, for those who care to read the science:
Mol Ecol. 2009 Apr;18(8):1730-45. Epub 2009 Mar 19.
Species-wide phylogeography of North American mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus): cryptic glacial refugia and postglacial recolonization.
Latch EK, Heffelfinger JR, Fike JA, Rhodes OE Jr.
Department of Biological Sciences, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 3209 N. Maryland Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53211, USA. latch@uwm.edu
Quaternary climatic oscillations greatly influenced the present-day population genetic structure of animals and plants. For species with high dispersal and reproductive potential, phylogeographic patterns resulting from historical processes can be cryptic, overshadowed by contemporary processes. Here we report a study of the phylogeography of Odocoileus hemionus, a large, vagile ungulate common throughout western North America. We examined sequence variation of mitochondrial DNA (control region and cytochrome b) within and among 70 natural populations across the entire range of the species. Among the 1766 individual animals surveyed, we recovered 496 haplotypes. Although fine-scale phylogenetic structure was weakly resolved using phylogenetic methods, network analysis clearly revealed the presence of 12 distinct haplogroups. The spatial distribution of haplogroups showed a strong genetic discontinuity between the two morphological types of O. hemionus, mule deer and black-tailed deer, east and west of the Cascade Mountains in the Pacific Northwest. Within the mule deer lineage, we identified several haplogroups that expanded before or during the Last Glacial Maximum, suggesting that mule deer persisted in multiple refugia south of the ice sheets. Patterns of genetic diversity within the black-tailed deer lineage suggest a single refugium along the Pacific Northwest coast, and refute the hypothesis that black-tailed deer persisted in one or more northern refugia. Our data suggest that black-tailed deer recolonized areas in accordance with the pattern of glacial retreat, with initial recolonization northward along a coastal route and secondary recolonization inland.
Post by: Axle on November 08, 2009, 07:34:38 PM
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The latest rangewide genetics work pretty clearly shows that during the last glacial period, and perhaps previous ones too, that constant isolation allowed the single species to differentiate. Since the end of the last ice age, there has been some interbreeding.
This would explain why things happened the way they did between humans after Snoqualmie and Stephens pass opened up.
I've got to warn my kids!
All joking aside - this is good info. Thanks :)
Post by: fish affender on November 29, 2009, 07:37:24 PM
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Post by: Track-er on December 03, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Mike
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 04, 2009, 09:29:38 AM
Waiting the 60 day drying period to get it scored.
Mike
Seriously? Of course I would wait 60 days for an official score, but I think I would put a tape on him myself for an "un-official score", just to see what he rings in at...
Post by: Track-er on January 06, 2010, 03:38:42 PM
Mike
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Post by: littlebuf on January 08, 2010, 05:01:16 PM
Post by: Huntbear on January 08, 2010, 05:21:10 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 08, 2010, 05:22:21 PM
I'm with you littleuf
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: link on January 10, 2010, 06:27:53 PM
Post by: andrew_12gauge on January 11, 2010, 09:11:40 AM
Are people really still talking about this? When are you guys going to be able to just let it go as a nice buck holy cow.
I'm with you littleuf
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
i stated from my first post on this thread that it is a nice buck no matter what species, but frankly its a mulie
Post by: link on January 12, 2010, 05:27:48 PM
Post by: mdbuck5x5 on January 13, 2010, 01:05:38 AM
Post by: littlebuf on January 13, 2010, 07:23:54 AM
Doesnt matter its still a cascade blacktail! :bash: Some of you guys will just never get that!
coming from a guy in Spokane :rolleyes:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 13, 2010, 07:47:09 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2010, 07:53:47 AM
this is locked.
not gonna drum this up again.