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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: markts on November 04, 2009, 06:46:21 PM

Title: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: markts on November 04, 2009, 06:46:21 PM: Have a local herd and the biggest bodied bull has 6in stumps. I suppose it isnt a bad thing keeping him safe as there is 4 other branched bulls in the herd. Must be a gene pool thing :dunno: :dunno: I have never seen it before. Mark
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 04, 2009, 06:56:48 PM: I once heard a rumor about WDFW doing that around the parks and stuff to keep the poachers from shooting them. ????
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 04, 2009, 07:00:34 PM: a guy at work was just talking about that...
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: PolarBear on November 04, 2009, 07:16:18 PM: Yep, seen it in areas where they transplant bulls to develop a new herd, mainly to deter poachers or the tribe (same thing) from shooting them while they are most vulnerable. They did it to the bulls in the herd between Kamilche and McLeary when they first transplanted them. The Squaxins were licking their chops at all the new elk.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: gasman on November 04, 2009, 08:29:23 PM: 4 years ago while hunting in the Little Naches, teh camp nnext to our had shot a bull, a big body bull at that, but the antlers have been sawed off to a spike :dunno:

you could see the saw makrs on the antlers and they were only about 10" tall. The marks were worn, so it was dome some time ago, but you could tell it was cut off.

I have heard of the GD cutting off the antlers of an bull elk when moving them from one place to another.
Example: Problem bull that keeps harrasing or eating on a farm. The GD takes the elk to another area and cut the antlers to see if the same bull returns (cheaper then a collar and does not hurt the animal).
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: billythekidrock on November 05, 2009, 05:32:26 AM: I have heard that they cut the antlers off to prevent damage to the animal and the handlers during the move.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: boneaddict on November 05, 2009, 05:47:06 AM: I agree, they do it in transporting them for everyones safety including the elk. I saw them do it for the first elk transplanted to the Colville a long time back.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on November 05, 2009, 12:28:15 PM: They transport the elk via Horse trailers and they cut off th antlers so they dont hurt anyone or other elk when transporting them from one location to another. Also sometime elk will get caught in a fence or something and the game dept. will cutoff the antlers so the elk doesn't die.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 05, 2009, 12:44:16 PM: i heard of it also. but not a great idea to do in a spike unit :chuckle: not as many bull hunters as there are spkie hunters and now he is a spike
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on November 05, 2009, 06:24:13 PM: I think its the lizard people in yelm that are doing it :twocents:
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 07:45:27 PM: good thing to do in some areas since the god dang prairie coons like to get a hold of the antlers and sell them to let the rest of the elk rot away
them indians think they are big and bad getting all their rights
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: Bob33 on November 05, 2009, 08:02:25 PM: Have you ever heard of Elk #6/aka "Elvis"?
http://ycg.typepad.com/yellowstone_country_guard/2009/02/index.html

And though my closest call with any animal is still two encounters with #10, big old #6 dominated much of my time every autumn as I worked to keep visitors at bay, and with great excitement, watched #6 tear up the grass, chase off intruders (four-leggeds and two leggeds), and on countless occasions, mash the front grill of a rental car. His antics were so notorious that the park service ordered his antlers cut-off the falls of 2005 and 2006. This was the park’s response to the thousands of dollars in property damage that #6 was credited with in two consecutive years.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: NWBREW on November 05, 2009, 08:05:51 PM: Quote from: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
good thing to do in some areas since the god dang prairie coons like to get a hold of the antlers and sell them to let the rest of the elk rot away
them indians think they are big and bad getting all their rights

Dude, why that comment? There are poachers of all races. BTK your exactly right. That is why they cut the antlers, to prevent injury and damage.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 08:28:42 PM: that is true and i never said there wasnt
but i do know that they do a lot of this on the peninsula
cant help but talk about the past experience and i think everyone needs to know what they are doing
especially since they say they want to be like there ancesters
tell me one thing did there ancesters do things like that
then why do we give them so many rights
trust me i dont put the blame only on them but dont you think it should stop :bash:
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: markts on November 06, 2009, 05:33:08 AM: Quote from: NWBREW on November 05, 2009, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
good thing to do in some areas since the god dang prairie coons like to get a hold of the antlers and sell them to let the rest of the elk rot away
them indians think they are big and bad getting all their rights

Dude, why that comment? There are poachers of all races. BTK your exactly right. That is why they cut the antlers, to prevent injury and damage.
Took the words out of my mouth NWBrew. This post isnt about race its about elk :bash: Mark
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: agchawk on November 06, 2009, 12:59:53 PM: Quote from: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
good thing to do in some areas since the god dang prairie coons like to get a hold of the antlers and sell them to let the rest of the elk rot away
them indians think they are big and bad getting all their rights

Yea, that is a pretty offensive statement, regardless of how you feel about the tribal rights and how they are interperated. Hopefully one of the mods will see this and remove it from the thread.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: Roger on November 06, 2009, 01:01:47 PM: Personally saw a bull a several years ago in the Namum unit that was cut off down to just nubs.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: ing on November 06, 2009, 01:47:34 PM: Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: remington300mag on November 06, 2009, 01:59:51 PM: Quote from: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
good thing to do in some areas since the god dang prairie coons like to get a hold of the antlers and sell them to let the rest of the elk rot away
them indians think they are big and bad getting all their rights

I am sorry but I can not stop laughing at this post!!! LMAO I have seen and been a part of a lot of Indian bashing on here.....(most rightly deserved)....but this post takes the cake.....
Funniest thing is...this guy probably doesn't see any problem with his wording or the comments made......and all I can do is sit here and laugh!!!
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 06, 2009, 02:07:29 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: BENCHLEG on November 06, 2009, 08:36:09 PM: i know someone that saw the same thing opening day, on mt adams. 3 roads all blocked one bull sawed off 6 gamies. never to be seen again since. they had something going on.
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: duckmen1 on November 10, 2009, 02:56:38 PM: hear a lot of talk about that comment
i dont know if you guys have ever had seen or experienced such a thing that these guys are doing but i have and it aiont cool so i have no problem with my words and niether do the other hunters that see it happen
talked to a lot of people that feel the same way i do
but you are exactly correct its not about race i get just as ticked about some redneck wanabe hunter that does the same thing
Title: Re: Anyone heard of Game Department cutting off Herd bulls horns?
Post by: Cylvertip on November 10, 2009, 03:13:40 PM: I used to work with a guy that had been head of maintenance and site development for WDFW. He told me they would go into the spike only units prior to season and cut the horns off those animals too. :dunno: