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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Watz_Hunt on November 05, 2009, 09:13:42 PM

Title: Elk Calls
Post by: Watz_Hunt on November 05, 2009, 09:13:42 PM: I wass wondering what calls you would use to call in a cow?
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: bow4elk on November 05, 2009, 09:22:28 PM: Jones diaphragms - blue or red (small or medium bull). Nothing beats the realism of diaphragm calls and you can control the volume very well. External reed calls have their place and I use them but I prefer the hands-free versatility of diaphragms. :twocents:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: bowhuntin on November 05, 2009, 09:33:24 PM: I use the diaphragm calls as well. Hands free, easy to use. Though you could use a hoochie mama, which everyone in the woods is going to have or some type of reed call.
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 05, 2009, 09:41:55 PM: hoochie mama and baby hoochie which sound like a calf i think would be the best for. if you are really good at diaphragms are great but from what i have got not being mean watz you are really new to the game go with the easy to use hoochie calls can get them for about 25.oo works great love them i use them diaphragms and a hyper lip doubble love that call. are you lisening pad a wan :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: Watz_Hunt on November 06, 2009, 06:36:37 AM: yea yea Obie Won I am listening! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: funkster on November 06, 2009, 08:20:08 AM: I like the berry x-5,it's a all around good call.I like reed calls because you can copy the sounds that the elk are making and fit right in with the herd. If you use a hoochie mamma you will sound like the odd cow and get eyes looking in your direction. If you don't know how to use a reed just play with it for a week and don't give up in the first 30 mins.
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 06, 2009, 10:10:47 AM: I have had and witnessed bad results from Hoochie Momma's. IMHO they are too loud. If you dont know how to use a diaphram, get one of those bite-and-blow calls like a Jones or Sceery. and practice doing it SOFTLY. I call them in quite a bit keeping it real low key, but when I get too loud they shut up and move on.....just my :twocents:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: KillerMiller on November 06, 2009, 05:27:24 PM: Woodswise hyperhot. worked for me. :twocents:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 06, 2009, 05:55:34 PM: were have you guys been :chuckle: the baby hoochie is not to loud. also i have a baffle that came out last year that turn the hoochie full size into the slezyest cow in the woods. also guys you don't have to push it as hard as you can :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 06, 2009, 06:20:15 PM: Everyone has an opinion...... :dunno:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: gasman on November 06, 2009, 09:39:16 PM: Yes, please keep using the Hoochie Mama anf pushing the elk to me :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

They Suck :nono:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 06, 2009, 11:49:27 PM: Quote from: gasman on November 06, 2009, 09:39:16 PM
Yes, please keep using the Hoochie Mama anf pushing the elk to me :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

They Suck :nono:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 06, 2009, 11:53:40 PM: Everyone has an opinion......
:chuckle:
more like pull them away from you :P :chuckle:

they are one of about 5 calls i carry in the field.
funny they are the most popular hunting calls on the market you boys go tell cameron hanes and guy eastman that they suck :chuckle: see if they don't laugh at you :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: shadowless_nite on November 07, 2009, 12:19:33 AM: some like myself wish i could use a diaphragm, but due to very bad molar alignment and small upper pallet i cant seal a diaphragm well in my mouth with out almost gagging. reed calls are nice but i sure wish i could use a diaphragm easily :(

but i did find that if you have one of those instructional cd's , not dvds, you can pop it in the rig whenever your alone like on your way to work or stuck in traffic and practice with out bugging everyone else in the world. just make sure the windows are rolled up :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 07, 2009, 12:30:34 AM: but i did find that if you have one of those instructional cd's , not dvds, you can pop it in the rig whenever your alone like on your way to work or stuck in traffic and practice with out bugging everyone else in the world. just make sure the windows are rolled up

:chuckle: thats funny shadowless but thats not how i role i do it with the windows down 8)
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: Elknut1 on November 07, 2009, 05:32:44 AM: There's many various cow calls on the market today, most are perfect in the fact that they will do the job they're intended for! The more versatile the call the better off you will be, this is especially true when the hunters best odds are using a cow sound that fits the encounter! Hoochie mamas & like calls have their place but are by no means an end all or fit all situation type call. They give off "contact mews" & nothing more, you are very limited in its use. On some occasions that's all that's needed, other occasions require a different cow sound or tone that fits the encounter. The hoochies are a very good call to add an additional cow sound such as trying to sound like a small group of elk the hoochie just being one of those sounds, not all 3-4 cows.

The mouth diaphragm is ones best choice as it is versatile & can be used to make any sound a cow can make. External reeded calls are the next best thing for both those that want an additional or different tone or just can't use mouth reeds! Ones such as the Hyper Lip Single, Whose Yrr Daddy, Estrus Whine or Fighting Cow Call are all good choices & can deliver realistic cow tones & sound.

The important factor to really be concerned with is what you're asking for or saying when using any elk sound! Learning to understand what each sound means to the elk is of far more importance than just spitting out any ole cow sound or mew. Learn when & how to use a "contact mew/chirp" "pleads" "create pitchy excitement" "estrus buzz" "re-gathering sounds" "separated sounds" & so on. There is where your success will lie! Find a cow call you're happy with & fits then master the various sounds & you will see that your close encounters with elk along with a good setup & good wind will be enhanced considerably! Keep it simple & Good Luck!

ElkNut1
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: Watz_Hunt on November 07, 2009, 06:13:58 PM: how the heck do you use the mouth call deals????
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: bowhuntin on November 07, 2009, 06:43:38 PM: Quote from: Watz_Hunt on November 07, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
how the heck do you use the mouth call deals????

Just go to the store buy some mouth calls, read the directions and just start practicing. Listen to some elk calls from a hunting video or tape and try and imitate. Keep practicing, you will get the hang of it after a while.
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: Watz_Hunt on November 07, 2009, 10:52:46 PM: Only problem is i cant make a sound out of them. I am talking about the ones you insert fully into your mouth.
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: bow4elk on November 07, 2009, 11:27:53 PM: I've been teaching people for nearly 20 years...PM me and I'll get you started off right.
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: Elknut1 on November 08, 2009, 06:47:25 AM: Watz, yes, those are called Mouth Diaphragms or Mouth Reeds such as these. http://stores.elknut.com/Categories.bok?category=Elk+Calls%2C+etc&searchpath=50263361&start=25&total=33

That's very generous of Bow4elk to offer to help, you should call him! Make sure you start with a single reed call that has a soft latex, this way you will see much quicker results that too stiff a single reed or double reeds for newer elk callers! This will make a HUGE difference in your results!

ElkNut1
Title: Re: Elk Calls
Post by: gasman on November 08, 2009, 09:06:12 AM: Quote from: Elknut1 on November 08, 2009, 06:47:25 AM

Watz, yes, those are called Mouth Diaphragms or Mouth Reeds such as these. http://stores.elknut.com/Categories.bok?category=Elk+Calls%2C+etc&searchpath=50263361&start=25&total=33

Rckys "Mello Yellow" is a good ne to statr with. It is soft and forms nicly in yur mouth.

It is what i will start my daughter on.

I need a new one, i lost mine and had to resort to some other calls i have that are not as good :dunno: