Post by: jstamp on November 07, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Post by: New England Native on November 07, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
Post by: Wa hunter on November 07, 2009, 03:17:39 PM
Post by: NWBREW on November 07, 2009, 03:19:18 PM
was up in the Winston Unit last night working. Some idiots think it's ok to block main roads off with vehicles, campers, and just about anything else you can think of to block roads. when the cops showed up because of a fight over the idiots blocking roads off. the idiots thought it was their god given right to block the road, because they were going to hunt up there today. I now know why i switched to archery hunting. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Dude..I've had the same thing happen to me with Bowhunters. It's not the weapon of choice that makes idiots do this...it is the person themselves. I know exactly how you feel.
Post by: Ray on November 07, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
Post by: Bigfoot on November 07, 2009, 03:23:34 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 07, 2009, 03:34:18 PM
Post by: gasman on November 07, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
:hello:
Post by: PolarBear on November 07, 2009, 03:43:37 PM
Post by: logger on November 07, 2009, 03:58:18 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 07, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
Post by: gasman on November 07, 2009, 04:01:37 PM
This year i just pulled ff the road, because we have not see any one in the area we hunt in a few years. Well this F&&ker in a yota passes my jeep and drives on. He sees we are hunting the area, there are 3 of us in a less then 1/4 mile area. I had my daughter waling the road towards the end, they passed up her on the road, speed up to the end of the road and jumped out and speed walked to the ravine on the end of the road >:(
This really pissed her of for it was one of the ravines we were watching.
So just t be a dick, i walked around them and hunted the finger ridges below them. :ass:
Post by: PolarBear on November 07, 2009, 04:09:22 PM
Post by: gasman on November 07, 2009, 04:14:48 PM
Not to be a jerk but they had every right to drive around you. You have no right to block any road or trail just because you want to hunt it alone. My cousin works for a certain timber co in Mason county has parked his grader, blocked in folks who block the roads, had the oiler pick him up and left them blocked in for the night. Keep in mind they are not your roads to block or do with as you please!
It did not piss me off that they drove through ( i was parked on the side of th eroad, not blocking), it was the fact they sped up and drove past my daughter to beat her to the end of the road, that was only 80 yards in front of her, just to be at the ravine first. She was walking slow, looking for deer in th esurounding area ,as she waled to the ravine.
This is a very small area in the Entiat unit, and i mean small area.
Post by: Alan K on November 07, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
I headed around to the other side, hiked in a half mile or so on a dug-up road and walked all through the unit making all the noise I could before the sun came up, didn't hear anything take off, but I was going to make sure if there was anything alive in the area it'd be running to the next county. Served those *censored*s right. I am happy and fairly surprised I didn't get shot at!
Post by: huntnphool on November 07, 2009, 04:42:41 PM
Post by: Galpster on November 07, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 07, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
Post by: funkster on November 07, 2009, 05:00:08 PM
When we have young hunters with us, lets remember they are watching and learning from are action. Even if people are idiots, treat them with the same hunter ethics that you would like those idiots to treat you with. If we stoop down to their level that makes us no better!
Post by: HornPorn on November 07, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 07, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 07, 2009, 05:27:44 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 07, 2009, 05:29:42 PM
I would be happy with them all locked up as well, I have no problems hiking in and out.
:yeah:
I have also been to the upper end of Winston during late archery and had the DINGDONGS blocking the road. These are the same type of low life scum suckers that steal peoples elk as they are full of greed and selfishness. What a bunch of crap snackers.
Post by: HornPorn on November 07, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 07, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
It is all about "getting", not about how this success was achieved.
How silly the story would sound if one of these guys told the truth about how he "hunted" from the seat of his truck, saw some elk, blocked the road so nobody else would see them, walked down the road and opened fire....you get my point.
I wish the gates would stay locked, like it is for early archery (most WH lands)
I wont hunt modern because I like to hunt for animals, not a place to park.
The reason they open the gates for modern season is so that all the trucks arent blocking the road at gates.
The reason I archery hunt is because I like to, and I know there are idiots in all user groups, but 1% of a smaller number is still a smaller number....
Post by: Huntbear on November 07, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
Post by: NWBREW on November 07, 2009, 06:17:10 PM
That, my friend, is the root of all this hassle. No respect for our fellow sportsmen and less respect for the sport.
It is all about "getting", not about how this success was achieved.
I wont hunt modern because I like to hunt for animals, not a place to park.
The reason I archery hunt is because I like to, and I know there are idiots in all user groups, but 1% of a smaller number is still a smaller number....
I agree with your first comment 100% but not sure I follow the other comments. I have seen this problem with all user groups although it does not effect me anymore because of where I hunt. The reason most of us hunt is because we like to, doesn't matter what eachothers choice of weapon is. I have hunted with both gun and bow . No disrespect but but I don't think I understood exactly what you meant. Again like I have said before..and you as well...It is not the weapon of choice but the idiots themselves and to tell you the truth I don't think it will get any better unless they do close the roads. Just my :twocents:
Post by: Gringo31 on November 07, 2009, 06:40:35 PM
Post by: jstamp on November 07, 2009, 07:18:37 PM
jstamp, what road were they blocking? The 1900? Every year it gets worse there. That is why I was supposed to be, and my brother and our buddy are camped in the high country again. No more dealing with the IDIOTS down low.the 220 on the mossyrock end off of longbell rd
Post by: jstamp on November 07, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
Post by: Blsum on November 07, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
Post by: jstamp on November 07, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on November 07, 2009, 08:01:04 PM
Post by: Huntbear on November 07, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
Post by: huntmando on November 07, 2009, 08:16:31 PM
by the time he got to him someone already had him opened up
and a tag on him. It's just a zoo. Plain and simple.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 07, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
I was not critisizing weapons choice, I was merely stating the difference between hunting when there are 76,000 hunters and 7,600 idiots versus 13,000 hunters and 1,300 idiots. meaning there are still idiots in all user groups, just less means less, with a similar percentage.That, my friend, is the root of all this hassle. No respect for our fellow sportsmen and less respect for the sport.
It is all about "getting", not about how this success was achieved.
I wont hunt modern because I like to hunt for animals, not a place to park.
The reason I archery hunt is because I like to, and I know there are idiots in all user groups, but 1% of a smaller number is still a smaller number....
I agree with your first comment 100% but not sure I follow the other comments. I have seen this problem with all user groups although it does not effect me anymore because of where I hunt. The reason most of us hunt is because we like to, doesn't matter what eachothers choice of weapon is. I have hunted with both gun and bow . No disrespect but but I don't think I understood exactly what you meant. Again like I have said before..and you as well...It is not the weapon of choice but the idiots themselves and to tell you the truth I don't think it will get any better unless they do close the roads. Just my :twocents:
Post by: heavy hauler on November 07, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
Post by: jstamp on November 07, 2009, 09:45:33 PM
i have seen it happen in the winston.using equiptment to block state land.awesome hunting winston is like fishing blue creek.it can produce , but its not worth the bs :twocents::yeah:
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 07, 2009, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: ac_156 on November 08, 2009, 12:02:17 AM
Post by: NWBREW on November 08, 2009, 12:10:39 AM
had that happen to me in the randle unit. a big group but up a tent blocking the whole road. i ran into a game warden about an hour later told him about it, he had me show him where it was. i watched as he hooked a rope around the tent tied it to his bumper then drove off. scattered stuff everywhere then gave them a ticket for littering. was funny to watch there faces as he did that. : :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: I would love to have seen that.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 08, 2009, 12:14:24 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on November 08, 2009, 06:03:32 AM
How are they supposed to get out and try to hunt a bit?
Hell my Dads 78 years old.He still loves to get out and try for a deer or elk.Or even just drive around and reminise about the old days.Hell,he logged a lot of that stuff in the 50s and 60s.Killed a lot of dear and elk in there too.
I have a nephew thats confined to a wheelchair.Hows he supposed to even see a critter if he cant be driven around in a vehicle.Guess he'll have to chain up and go around the gates.Ya.right.
Hope you guys never get old or stoved up.cause people that think like you do will cause you to put away your weapons and sit in your recliner and remember the good ole days when you used to be able to get around and hunt a bit.
Lets piss and moan about how bad an area is.But even knowing that,go in and hunt it expecting something else.It would be nice if everybody was a better person.And it wasnt so crazy.But thats not the case.
If you want seclusion.Go where its secluded.
Theres bettter alternatives.
Post by: funkster on November 08, 2009, 07:41:45 AM
I understand the frustration.But you guy that want all the gates locked must not have any elderly or crippled family memebers.
How are they supposed to get out and try to hunt a bit?
What is the better alternative? People do not follow the rules with game wardens and "eyes in the woods" running all over. The hunting is way better when the gates are shut. There are special permits for disabled hunters and they have special draw permits for 65 and older hunters. If that isn't enough,there is thousands of acres of state land that you can drive all over if you so please.
Post by: PolarBear on November 08, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
Post by: funkster on November 08, 2009, 07:53:50 AM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 08, 2009, 08:45:27 AM
Post by: Wild Bill on November 08, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
I understand the frustration.But you guy that want all the gates locked must not have any elderly or crippled family memebers.both sides are right. The disabled, elderly should have a permit allowing them to drive in with ONE OTHER body. Kids should have a raffle for said permits. Just cause ur a fat ass shouldn't mean u get a permit either. It should noo *censored* be prostetics (sp?) or a inability to move freely. Not cause of hearing loss, or a lopped off finger. The rest should be walk in only. Screw the rd hunters. Rd hunt by walking, biking. Not by driving 30+ and shooting from the door jam! >:(
How are they supposed to get out and try to hunt a bit?
Hell my Dads 78 years old.He still loves to get out and try for a deer or elk.Or even just drive around and reminise about the old days.Hell,he logged a lot of that stuff in the 50s and 60s.Killed a lot of dear and elk in there too.
I have a nephew thats confined to a wheelchair.Hows he supposed to even see a critter if he cant be driven around in a vehicle.Guess he'll have to chain up and go around the gates.Ya.right.
Hope you guys never get old or stoved up.cause people that think like you do will cause you to put away your weapons and sit in your recliner and remember the good ole days when you used to be able to get around and hunt a bit.
Lets piss and moan about how bad an area is.But even knowing that,go in and hunt it expecting something else.It would be nice if everybody was a better person.And it wasnt so crazy.But thats not the case.
If you want seclusion.Go where its secluded.
Theres bettter alternatives.
I'm not even a rifle guy, and my blood is boiling just thinkin about the d bags!
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 08, 2009, 11:49:03 AM
fortunately handicapped hunters are a minority and deserve special consideration.
The majority of hunting areas like the winston unit would be best served by closing every road that is not the mainline, with one or two such roads that are handicap access ONLY.
I don't think laziness and ignorance is considered a handicap.
Post by: Huntbear on November 08, 2009, 01:06:59 PM
I don't think laziness and ignorance is considered a handicap.
Ummmmmm think again! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: Old Mule on November 08, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
Post by: DBake on November 08, 2009, 02:16:57 PM
I wish they would shut and lock all of those gates and make everyone walk in there. It would be a whole lot better.:yeah: It would help deer populations as well.
Post by: Iron Head on November 08, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
Post by: eastside boy on November 08, 2009, 07:03:19 PM
Post by: Huntbear on November 08, 2009, 07:04:59 PM
Road blockers are nothing, I've seen them removed the damn gate. :bash:
with whatever they have handy, winch, bullets, dynamite..... :o
Post by: Alchase on November 09, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
Post by: julzzz on November 09, 2009, 02:31:02 PM
Post by: robodad on November 09, 2009, 03:05:24 PM
If you going behind the gate to work then you should not have a "Hunting Rifle" with you either. :twocents:
Post by: gasman on November 09, 2009, 03:17:15 PM
If you going behind the gate to work then you should not have a "Hunting Rifle" with you either.
This i do not agree with.
Some jobs have perks, and this is one of them, and no, I am not a logger or know any.
Post by: NWBREW on November 09, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
And just because your a logger and have a key to the locked gates doesn't mean you should open the gate to let yourself and your buddy in then lock the gate behind you and make everyone else walk in.
If you going behind the gate to work then you should not have a "Hunting Rifle" with you either. :twocents:
Oh..Ouch. I don't agree with that comment. When you leave the landing you are off work. Like gasman said....it's one of the perks to a hard job. And no I am not a logger.
Post by: HntnFsh on November 09, 2009, 08:37:14 PM
Their perk is having a job.Not abusing it by thinking they have the perk of hunting behind a licked gate.When the sign says no motorized vehicle access.It means just that.For everybody.
Post by: Wa hunter on November 09, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
Post by: timber tiger on November 09, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
Post by: Wa hunter on November 09, 2009, 09:19:03 PM