Post by: Amsdad on November 17, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
Better yet, has anyone had a chance to shoot one of these..Any information would be appreciated..
Post by: Amsdad on November 17, 2009, 04:06:28 PM
I found out some new information just now on a call back. These Northwest Explorers are basically inline Hawkens. They are based on the Omega frame, with a mounted Hawken barrel..1:48 twist..Strange for modern..Apparently they do not shoot conicals very well I am told and a lot of places are returnig them to see if T/C will switch to a 1:28 barrel.
Just for information sake, if anyone has shot one of these I would still like to hear about it.
Post by: Alaska316 on November 17, 2009, 08:29:58 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 17, 2009, 08:42:29 PM
Here is some interesting info from there on this topic:
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HEAVY BULLETS FOR SLOW TWIST RIFLES
It seems that nothing stays the same for long. Several years ago, in-lines were the "must have" of the muzzleloader world. Last year everyone had to shoot 3 pellets and go 2000 feet per second. Well, finally, again, the universe is getting back to normal. Lately many hunters are going back to his or her hammer guns. I don't know what or who started this movement but I think it will be great for the sport.
As bullet makers we see trends change even before the gun makers see them. This past winter, our bullet orders have been for heavier and heavier bullets. Sabots still outsell conical bullets but the trend is definitely towards heavier bullets with no regard for velocity.
Most requests for heavy bullets are coming from guys who want to go back to their 1-48" twist sidelock rifles. Coincidentally, I started working on a heavy bullet / sabot combination for slow twist barrels. As odd as it may sound, some bullet / sabot combinations work much better than others. After lots of thought and testing, we added the .45 Keith Nose to our line of saboted bullets. It offers the same Keith Nose hollow point nose design as our regular .44 Keith Nose with a full boat tail in a .45 caliber. This bullet, when married to a black sabot that I found out of Kentucky, is absolutely unbelievably accurate. Using a 300 grain .45 Keith Nose I have shot 3 shot .659" groups with my 1-48" Plainsman flintlock, 3 shot .542" groups with my Hawken and 3 shot .369" groups with my Traditions Deerhunter. I have tested this bullet / sabot combination in weights to 330 with acceptable results (1.5" groups at 100 yards) but 300 grains is really where this combination shines.
We also found that we could use Ultimate 1 conicals in weights to 400 grains in the same 1-48" twist barrel with no stabilization problems by replacing the cup base with a step base. This effectively shortens the bullet therefore making it easier to stabilize. We used the step base Ultimate 1 in the Keith Nose HP, Keith Nose Solids and Semi Spitzer HP to harvest deer this season in our 1-48" twist traditional style guns with wonderful success.
Keith Nose .45 are available in weights of 275, 300, 330, and 360 grain with black sabots for .50 caliber, with red sabots for .54 caliber and with grey sabots for .58 caliber.
Post by: dawhunt on November 18, 2009, 06:31:13 AM
Does anyone have an information source on the newer T/C Northwest Edition inlines. Is this just a modification on the Triumph? I was looking at one at Wholesale sports the other day, but the salesman didn't seem to know much. The T\C website does not seem to have an info either that I can find.
Better yet, has anyone had a chance to shoot one of these..Any information would be appreciated..
Wholesales sports does have them in Vancouver,T/C has just cut a notch above the nipple.That makes it open to the elements !!!!!!!.
Post by: Amsdad on November 18, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
Thanks for that info..maybe thats worth taking another look at. I don't currently own any 1:48 twist rifles but I have wanted a caplock for awhile and I believe most of those are 1:48. I did like the feel of this rifle, but I think $100 for the camo stock addtion is a little steep. And as Dawhunt mentioned the milling to expose the nipple is done nicely.
Post by: bobcat on November 18, 2009, 04:56:43 PM
Post by: Amsdad on November 18, 2009, 05:15:44 PM
I have been looking for a camo stock for my black diamond and I found one recently, but now I can not find where I saw it..It was around $100 as well, but it was a third party stock if I remember right..
Post by: t6 on November 22, 2009, 10:25:30 PM
Have the stock you already have dipped into a camo print. Hydrographics Inc. in Newberg Or did four for for me. All turned out great and We got to choose the camo patterns and how dark or light we wanted them. It was lots cheaper than buying an new stock.
Post by: Amsdad on November 22, 2009, 11:28:14 PM
Thanks for the tip. I just looked them up..I will have to give them a call tomorrow and check this out.