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Title: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: ADAMS on November 22, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
My wife wanted a semi-auto .22 and I thought I'd be "Super Husband" by surprising her with a really cool .22lr.

So she opens the box (as shown below) and at first she seems excited ... until she shoulders it and says, "Oh, this is interesting."  Bottom line.  She doesn't like how it feels.  Turns out I could have played Super Husband for a lot less.  I have a couple of offers, the largest being $520 but that's a little shy of what I would let it go for.

Keep it?

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Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Mookie on November 22, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
If you don't like it, and she does not like it, then sell it and take her gun shopping. It looks like they sell for $570 through Davidsons so probably 50 or so cheaper to have a shop owner order it for you. $520 is not bad.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Straight Shooter on November 22, 2009, 04:52:18 PM
Unless you can get back real close to what you put in to it, I'd keep it.  A 22 lr "AR" is like a V-6 Mustang or Charger... what's the point?  For a bit more, you could have gotten a real AR.  :dunno:  Should have went with a basic 10/22 and tricked it out later if she liked it.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: ADAMS on November 22, 2009, 05:06:14 PM
"A 22 lr "AR" is like a V-6 Mustang or Charger... what's the point?"

A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity.


"If you don't like it, and she does not like it, then sell it and take her gun shopping."

Yeah.  Turns out she wants a Marlin 60. Yes, I'm still kicking myself. :bash:  I already have two AR's (a Bushmaster A2 Target and Noveske N4 Light Recce) and if I keep it, it will at least make an inexpensive plinker for mag dumps - something I can no longer afford to do with my AR's.

Either way, lesson learned.


Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: actionshooter on November 22, 2009, 05:28:21 PM
Unless you can get back real close to what you put in to it, I'd keep it.  A 22 lr "AR" is like a V-6 Mustang or Charger... what's the point?  
Actually these things are awesome for competition practice, keeps the ammo bill low.

Also keep it, you already have it right??   ;)
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: MHWASH on November 22, 2009, 05:32:24 PM
ASve it for the next gunshow and put $700 on it. It will be gone quick.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Mookie on November 22, 2009, 06:34:51 PM
"A 22 lr "AR" is like a V-6 Mustang or Charger... what's the point?"

A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity.
I like my 50 rounders on my 10/22
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Straight Shooter on November 22, 2009, 06:42:54 PM
"A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity."

I guess since that you have already bought it, the point is moot, but there are 25/30/50 round mags readily available for the Ruger.  Plus, you have the option of converting it to .17 Mach II.

"Actually these things are awesome for competition practice, keeps the ammo bill low."

So, you spend around $700 on a .22 lr so you can save money?  How about just spending $225 for a 10/22, trick it out into a pistol-gripped, tactical carbine for another $250 and use the left over $225 and buy 5,000+ rounds of ammo?
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2009, 07:51:36 PM
I take it straight shooter just doesn't like it. Geez, cut the guy a little slack. It's not cool to go slammin a guy for no reason. I actually kind of agree with you but who benefits by rubbing salt in a wound.  :dunno:

I think you'd be able to sell it pretty easily. Bummer the wifey doesn't like it. Looks like a fun toy.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: markts on November 22, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
I have no luck when surpriseing my wife either, sorry dude. I would keep it so you can get another gun  :chuckle:Mark
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 22, 2009, 08:00:47 PM
if you don't want to shoot it and she dosen't want to then sell it i am sure you could sell it for sure.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Straight Shooter on November 22, 2009, 08:02:54 PM
I take it straight shooter just doesn't like it. Geez, cut the guy a little slack. It's not cool to go slammin a guy for no reason.

I think you'd be able to sell it pretty easily. Bummer the wifey doesn't like it.

Sorry... my intention wasn't to slam him or anyone else.  He asked the question, so I thought I was answering it.  When it comes down to it, it's his money and if he was okay with his purchase, he would have never posted the question... I was just trying to give some options.  I guess that I should have been nicer about it.  I have two MPA (MAC-10) pistols that I regret buying... I wish that I would have asked the question before I bought them... maybe, someone would have been straight with me.  Hopefully, they'll turn out to be a good investment down the road... or at least, good trade bait.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: ADAMS on November 22, 2009, 08:03:12 PM
Like I said, " Yes, I'm still kicking myself. :bash:"

Feel free to get a few kicks in while I'm at it.

The damage is done.  And it was quite a bit. It was listed for $639 at Keith's in Portland when I bought it.  I'm sure its a fun gun but the more I think about it, (that means I talked to the wife) I think I'm going to sell it.  Let me know if you know of anyone who's interested.  First $530 has it.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: sporked horn on November 22, 2009, 08:06:52 PM
I bought one of these and can tell you don't try to put Remington ammo through it, it wont even feed.  The little bit of cci I had fed flawlessly and I've heard the bulk federal does fine also.  One thing people aren't realizing is that a 10-22 while awsome doesn't have the same feel as an AR style rifle.

Dan
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Jamieb on November 22, 2009, 08:10:33 PM
ADAMS.
If thats all she said then she was alot better about it then my wife was when I bought here a 10-22 for her birthday a few years ago. I realy did buy it for her but she was sure I was just using her birthday as a excuse to buy myself another gun.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: ADAMS on November 22, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
"I realy did buy it for her but she was sure I was just using her birthday as a excuse to buy myself another gun."

I once "bought the wife" :chuckle: a snub nosed revolver for home defense because she couldn't rack the slide on my Glock.

Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: actionshooter on November 22, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
"A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity."

I guess since that you have already bought it, the point is moot, but there are 25/30/50 round mags readily available for the Ruger.  Plus, you have the option of converting it to .17 Mach II.

"Actually these things are awesome for competition practice, keeps the ammo bill low."

So, you spend around $700 on a .22 lr so you can save money?  How about just spending $225 for a 10/22, trick it out into a pistol-gripped, tactical carbine for another $250 and use the left over $225 and buy 5,000+ rounds of ammo?

 Very simple, I'll go slow
 The .22 he is talking about is a AR15 clone with the same controls as the real thing. The idea is to practice with the same gun you are competing with.  22LR is about $60 for 1000 rounds, .223 is about $350 for 1000 rounds (for crap). For the price of 2K of ammo you can buy the Colt .22.
 When I am competetive, I shoot 2K a month minimum, just for practice.
 So basically, if you practice with a .22, after 1 month its free. If you compete with a AR15 it doesn't do much to practice with a 10/22.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Straight Shooter on November 23, 2009, 08:11:52 AM
"A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity."

I guess since that you have already bought it, the point is moot, but there are 25/30/50 round mags readily available for the Ruger.  Plus, you have the option of converting it to .17 Mach II.

"Actually these things are awesome for competition practice, keeps the ammo bill low."

So, you spend around $700 on a .22 lr so you can save money?  How about just spending $225 for a 10/22, trick it out into a pistol-gripped, tactical carbine for another $250 and use the left over $225 and buy 5,000+ rounds of ammo?

 Very simple, I'll go slow
 The .22 he is talking about is a AR15 clone with the same controls as the real thing. The idea is to practice with the same gun you are competing with.   22LR is about $60 for 1000 rounds, .223 is about $350 for 1000 rounds (for crap). For the price of 2K of ammo you can buy the Colt .22.
 When I am competitive, I shoot 2K a month minimum, just for practice.
 So basically, if you practice with a .22, after 1 month its free. If you compete with a AR15 it doesn't do much to practice with a 10/22.  :twocents:


I own AR-15s... and I spent 21 years in the Air Force shooting M-16s, so I do know about their function.  The Colt was for his wife... not for him... and I don't think that she is a competitive shooter.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: actionshooter on November 23, 2009, 08:26:31 AM
"A fun plinker for my wife.  I haven't shot it but I suspect it's lot more fun than a 10/22, especially with 3X the magazine capacity."

I guess since that you have already bought it, the point is moot, but there are 25/30/50 round mags readily available for the Ruger.  Plus, you have the option of converting it to .17 Mach II.

"Actually these things are awesome for competition practice, keeps the ammo bill low."

So, you spend around $700 on a .22 lr so you can save money?  How about just spending $225 for a 10/22, trick it out into a pistol-gripped, tactical carbine for another $250 and use the left over $225 and buy 5,000+ rounds of ammo?

 Very simple, I'll go slow
 The .22 he is talking about is a AR15 clone with the same controls as the real thing. The idea is to practice with the same gun you are competing with.   22LR is about $60 for 1000 rounds, .223 is about $350 for 1000 rounds (for crap). For the price of 2K of ammo you can buy the Colt .22.
 When I am competitive, I shoot 2K a month minimum, just for practice.
 So basically, if you practice with a .22, after 1 month its free. If you compete with a AR15 it doesn't do much to practice with a 10/22.  :twocents:


I own AR-15s... and I spent 21 years in the Air Force shooting M-16s, so I do know about their function.  The Colt was for his wife... not for him... and I don't think that she is a competitive shooter.  :twocents:

Never said she was, I was throwing that out there as an option. He asked if he should keep it, even though she didn't want it. I was outlining the reason why I would keep it. You keep comparing it to a 10/22, whats that got to do with anything?............... Just your opinion, no different than mine.
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 23, 2009, 08:47:30 AM
Buy her that Marlin 60! They're great plinkers. Bad-a$$ Black Rifles aren't for everyone.

Sell that Mustang with a 6 banger and buy ActionShooter some reloading equipment, because $.35 per round of .223 is outragous. He should be able to reload better ammo for half that price or even less.

-Steve   :P
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Mookie on November 23, 2009, 09:05:12 AM
I bought one of these and can tell you don't try to put Remington ammo through it, it wont even feed.  The little bit of cci I had fed flawlessly and I've heard the bulk federal does fine also.  One thing people aren't realizing is that a 10-22 while awsome doesn't have the same feel as an AR style rifle.

Dan
That is why you need a Zimmermans. All the parts for a 10/22 without the 10/22 feel

http://www.zimmermanarms.com/

Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 23, 2009, 09:16:45 AM
 :chuckle:  I have "bought the wife" a bow or two just to add to MY collection (shh!)  Then I have to get another one that she likes, (I get 2 new bows without getting in trouble).
I think you did great! ;)
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: Bofire on November 23, 2009, 02:40:40 PM
 :)What the hell do you care what we think? If you like it keep it, if not sell it, geeeeez, grow a set and make your own decision. :chuckle:
Carl
Title: Re: Should I just keep it? - Colt / Umarex M4 OPS
Post by: ADAMS on November 23, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
"What the hell do you care what we think? If you like it keep it, if not sell it, geeeeez, grow a set and make your own decision."

Like I said, first $530 has it.  It listed for $639 at Keith's.
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